[newbie] Red Hat to Mandrake
A couple of years ago I was given a dual boot Win98/Red Hat 5.2 PC for some computer related work I had done for a friend. At the time my ISP was dialin and I had all working very well. Since (about 2 weeks ago) I have gone to cable modem and just haven't taken the time to try to figure out how to get my Linux system working. In the meantime another co-worker who I have helped out on Unix systems where I work has given me Mandrake 7.2 CD's along with StarOffice CD's. I would like to try out all this but I have a question before proceeding - do I need to "wipe out" the Red Had before proceeding or do I just do an install of the Mandrake? If advisable to "wipe out" Red Hat - how? Thanks. Blaine Owens Eastman Chemical Company Phone - (423)-229-3579 Cell Phone - (423)-817-0704 Fax - (423)-229-1188 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Red Hat to Mandrake
hi, thought i'd toss out an answer to this -- with a warning -- i have never done this. =) remember what free advice is worth. anyhowz, i recall some time ago on this very list someone wrote that they did exactly that. they had Red Hat (i don't recall the version however) on their box. they put in the Mandrake CD (v7.0 or 7.1) and used the update option and it worked. however, i'm thinking this might not work with 7.2. many folks have had problems going for 7.0 or 7.1 to 7.2 with the update install, because the 7.2 version changed the directories in which some files are located. the general warning issued on this list is when installing 7.2 format and start from there, do not try to update. this is not to say some people here have not used the update feature and had it work just fine. they have. so, my newbeish thought would be for you to format and do a fresh install. if i'm way off base here hopefully someone will correct me. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Owens, Blaine C" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5:56:20 PM 2/8/01 A couple of years ago I was given a dual boot Win98/Red Hat 5.2 PC for some computer related work I had done for a friend. At the time my ISP was dialin and I had all working very well. Since (about 2 weeks ago) I have gone to cable modem and just haven't taken the time to try to figure out how to get my Linux system working. In the meantime another co-worker who I have helped out on Unix systems where I work has given me Mandrake 7.2 CD's along with StarOffice CD's. I would like to try out all this but I have a question before proceeding - do I need to "wipe out" the Red Had before proceeding or do I just do an install of the Mandrake? If advisable to "wipe out" Red Hat - how? Thanks. Blaine Owens Eastman Chemical Company Phone - (423)-229-3579 Cell Phone - (423)-817-0704 Fax - (423)-229-1188 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Red Hat to Mandrake
Blaine, ...In the meantime another co-worker who I have helped out on Unix systems where I work has given me Mandrake 7.2 CD's along with StarOffice CD's. I would like to try out all this but I have a question before proceeding - do I need to "wipe out" the Red Had before proceeding or do I just do an install of the Mandrake? If advisable to "wipe out" Red Hat - how? Thanks. I'd recently moved from RH 6.0 to lm7.2 on two pc's ( will be -- if the video card cooperates -- doing a third this weekend). One had had only RH on it, I wanted to dual-boot, so I'd had to format the whole drive. The other though, was alread dual- booting with W2k, so I just popped the lm7.2 cd in the drive started the install. I'd formatted the RH partition installed there. Worked fine. Can't say it'll work for everyone on every pc without trouble, but it souldn't cause any stress. Just don't do an upgrade. Even if it allows the install, you'll definitely run into hassels if you're even able to boot up. Oh, StarOffice is pretty cool. I've been using it since just bofore Sun bought StarDivision ( had used an early pre-cursor to StarWriter, called WordStar, many years ago on a CP/M box). Though I'd relied on M$ Word -- liked it -- for years, I'd had no problem moving to SO love it. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake
Unfortunately it's not the removal that I have a problem with. During clean installs of Mandrake, I cannot get the installer to create a boot disk or LILO, yet in Red Hat I can create both. My first theory was to get the boot floppy from Red Hat, and use it to get into Mandrake, then use 'that command' to build a new LILO. But because the kernel version numbers are different, it didn't work. - Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote: I'd love to wipe the system, and install, but I have a serious deficiency in the LILO/boot disk area, that I can't resolve, and neither can Mandrake support! Looks like this weekend will be the first attempt at the upgrade, I'll let you people know how it went. Get a Windows boot disk, boot to the disk (which has MS FDISK on it) and type "fdisk /mbr" and it'll wipe the master boot record. I don't recommend doing this if you've got something you want to save in the way of a current Linux install, as it can be problematic getting back to the existing install w/o a proper boot floppy. John
Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake via upgrade option
I feel like such a trail-blazer...sniff Cheers Brian, I think all I needed is someone to attempt it before me, to give me the confidence to jump in with both feet!! Original Message On 9/30/99, 6:38:12 PM, "Brian J. Babiuk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake via upgrade option: [snip] I didn't mean to come across as an authority. I just am speaking from my own experience. I hope this helps someone! Best way to speak, and often helps more than the 'authority.' Ty
Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote: Throughout the Mandrake documentation, it recommends only going for fresh builds, not bothering with upgrades. Now my question is, what is it that they're so worried about? Is it really that bad to upgrade from Red Hat 5.1 to Mandrake 6? Will I hit any brick walls? Well, RedHat 5.1 didn't know about KDE, and it had OLD versions of many of the library files which may or may NOT be updated. The other option is to perform a kernel replacement/recompile, and then add in all the extra packages that Mandrake provides. I would prefer not to attempt that just yet, I would much prefer to figure out if it can be upgraded with the CD. Is there anything I should look out for? FYI, I will attempt this anyway, it would just be nice to hear from anyone who's tried it and succeeded or failed. The problem with doing an "upgrade" is that not everything will be updated and there's been some SERIOUS changes since that version of RedHat, even in RedHat 6 there's been some serious changes! Really would be better to back up your user directories (or copy 'em to a separate drive, even) and wipe the system! John
Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake via upgrade option
Speaking from experience...you can upgrade, and it might even be preferable to installing the system fresh. (Especially if you have a SB16 PnP sound card, or possibly any PnP cards). I installed RH 5.2 some time ago. While I am still on the lower end of the linux learning curve, I still pride myself in knowing enough to get by. What I can't figure out I ask. I had no problems installing RH5.2. And to be honest I didn't have much problems installing Mandrake 6.1, except I couldn't get my sound card to work. It all had to do with that stupid "isapnp.cong" file that sets up PnP cards at boot up. It kept detecting conflicts with my card. (when infact none exist!)I investigated the problem and discovered from the FAQ page that no one knew why this happened, except that they suspected something to do with the isapnp file and the 6.x build. So I ripped off. I was going to go back to 5.2, and rebuild my kernel, and libraries manually. The idea really didn't appeal to me. So in a last desparation effort, I installed 5.2, then upgraded with Mandrake 6.1. The trick is though as someone mentioned earlier, It won't upgrade everything. So think! Figure out what you need, and manually select the packages. If you select something that needs something you didn't select...don't sweat it. The install program will tell you and ask you if it should install the packages! I didn't mean to come across as an authority. I just am speaking from my own experience. I hope this helps someone!
Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake via upgrade option
Original Message On 9/30/99, 6:38:12 PM, "Brian J. Babiuk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake via upgrade option: [snip] I didn't mean to come across as an authority. I just am speaking from my own experience. I hope this helps someone! Best way to speak, and often helps more than the 'authority.' Ty
