[newbie] Replace Metacity with Sawfish on 9.1?

2003-03-31 Thread Keith Christian
The Sawfish window manager does not seem to be in the list of packages
shipping with the 9.1 download edition.

1. I see that Metacity is now the default WM for Gnome, is there any specific
technical reason why Sawfish was displaced in favor of Metacity?

2. Should I want to install Sawfish as the default WM is there a good
procedure written up somewhere on how to do it?  Or is it as simple as using
RPM to remove Metacity and installing Sawfish from the RPM's instead?

Thanks,

==Keith

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Re: [newbie] Replace Metacity with Sawfish on 9.1?

2003-03-31 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 05:23, Keith Christian wrote:
 The Sawfish window manager does not seem to be in the list of packages
 shipping with the 9.1 download edition.
 
 1. I see that Metacity is now the default WM for Gnome, is there any specific
 technical reason why Sawfish was displaced in favor of Metacity?
 

Because Sawfish is more than just a wm and the Gnome team wanted a
dumb wm instead - although you can force Sawfish into being the wm and
get back some of that great functionality - but overall, the Gnome
project is getting a bit more scattered right now just in trying to play
catch up and kiss RedHat butt at the same time...

 2. Should I want to install Sawfish as the default WM is there a good
 procedure written up somewhere on how to do it?  Or is it as simple as using
 RPM to remove Metacity and installing Sawfish from the RPM's instead?
 

Not really - it's a kludge or a cf to get Sawfish running - but what
you CAN do is to run gconf-editor and find where it has the wm in the
Windows-like registry - then run the Session Manager, and find
Metashitty in the list of startup programs - replace that with Sawfish
(of course, AFTER downloading and installing Sawfish) with the same
running defaults, then open a terminal and do:

killall -KILL metacity ; wait 10  sawfish

...and if that chokes and pukes, just restart Gnome2 and you should have
Sawfish as the wm - the first few boots of Gnome2 will be flaky, but
after that it should stabilise a bit...

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