Re: [newbie] sound mixer for kde ISA card

2004-06-13 Thread David E. Fox
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 15:29:12 -0400
Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm trying to set up an old puter with MDK 10 Official (d/l) and in
 KDE I want to add the sound mixer. Since this is an older machine it's

kmix may work. I went through this recently for a friend who had one of
those Mozart sound system cards. We were able to get the sound card
configuration working fine using sndconfig (after selecting some Compaq
configuration, for some reason) and I think we tried kmix.

 Todd


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[newbie] sound mixer for kde ISA card

2004-06-12 Thread Todd Slater
I'm trying to set up an old puter with MDK 10 Official (d/l) and in KDE
I want to add the sound mixer. Since this is an older machine it's got
an ISA soundblaster card; it works, but I can't find a mixer to use with
it that I can access from, say, the KDE panel. I installed aumix but
running it does nothing. What am I missing?

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-17 Thread Richard Urwin
On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 3:25 am, The Other wrote:
 John Richard Smith wrote:
  Rezound
  ===
 
  I to, am impressed with it. It looks the think I'm looking for .
  Sorry to say I don't think it handles these funny yamaha sound
  files, which are all .mid files.
  At any rate I cannot seem toget any sense out of the sound
  generated, maybe wrong though, as it's early days and I'm unsure of
  the controls.
 
  John

 Hello John,

 It's been years since I looked at a Yamaha MIDI file, but if memory
 serves, Yamaha was not using standard MIDI instruments.

 By that I mean Instrument #1 in a standard MIDI file should be an
 Acoustic Piano, or Piano 1.   Yamaha MIDI files may have Instrument
 #1 set to Trumpet, or something different that Acoustic Piano.

 To get the Yamaha MIDI files sounding correctly, all you may need to
 do is remap the Yamaha Instrument patches to Standard Midi
 Instruments patches in the Rezound editor.

 For example.   Suppose Yamaha is using Track 1 as a Trumpet.  In
 Rezound, you would set Track 1 to the Standard Midi instrument patch
 for Trumpet, which is #57 on an Instrument set that is numbered 1 to
 128. The Trumpet would be patch #56 on a Instrument set that is
 numbered 0 to 127.  (Be aware of these two numbering schemes for
 Standard MIDI files.  If the patch you've specified still sounds like
 the wrong instrument, then increase or decrease the patch number
 you're using by 1 to get to the correct patch.)

 Now when Rezound plays Track 1, you should hear a Trumpet playing.

 I've not used Rezound, but this is a generic concept when working
 with MIDI files.  This is also how you can reorchestrate a MIDI
 piece.  If you don't like an Acoustic Piano playing on a Track,
 change the Instrument Patch to something else; such as a Harpsichord
 or Organ.

 Or use a different SoundFont to replace a poor sounding Acoustic
 Piano with a better sounding Grand Piano.  When you're working with
 MIDI, you have great control over the final sound of the piece.

 Regards,
 The Other

IIRC, the article I posted a link to on the Mandrake site has a link to 
a Yamaha soundfont. (and instructions for installing it.)

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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-17 Thread _nasturtium
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:26 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 least Yamaha seem to be using this specific file connotation, whether
.mid are MIDI files and they're quite standardised - if the keyboard is 
General MIDI then the files should be easy to play and edit.

 and the sound quality is good. So it's not a cheapskate size reduction
MIDI files only record the notes.
The final playback quality is NOT guaranteed. It depends on your waveset, you 
might notice they sound different on computer and keyboard.

 I'm still looking for something that will both display and allow me to
 edit, and in the end convert to an ordinary .wav file format to write to
 CD, and in linux if at all possible.
To play, use timidity or various frontends like kmidi or kmid.
To edit in Linux, use sequencers such as MuSE. Timidity can save MIDIs to wave 
files. In Windows, programs like Cake Walk can edit.

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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-17 Thread Michael Adams
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:56:30 +1000
_nasturtium [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:26 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
  least Yamaha seem to be using this specific file connotation, whether
 .mid are MIDI files and they're quite standardised - if the keyboard is 
 General MIDI then the files should be easy to play and edit.
 
  and the sound quality is good. So it's not a cheapskate size reduction

 MIDI files only record the notes.
Bit of an oversimplification, this may be useful.
http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tutr/miditutr.htm
this one seems a good description
http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tutr/midiform.htm

 The final playback quality is NOT guaranteed. It depends on your waveset, you 
 might notice they sound different on computer and keyboard.
 
  I'm still looking for something that will both display and allow me to
  edit, and in the end convert to an ordinary .wav file format to write to
  CD, and in linux if at all possible.
 To play, use timidity or various frontends like kmidi or kmid.
 To edit in Linux, use sequencers such as MuSE. Timidity can save MIDIs to wave 
 files. In Windows, programs like Cake Walk can edit.
 
 Regards,
   _nasturtium
 
 


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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-17 Thread John Richard Smith
The Other wrote:

John Richard Smith wrote:

Rezound
===
I to, am impressed with it. It looks the think I'm looking for .
Sorry to say I don't think it handles these funny yamaha sound files, 
which are all .mid files.
At any rate I cannot seem toget any sense out of the sound generated, 
maybe wrong though, as it's early days and I'm unsure of the controls.

John


Hello John,

It's been years since I looked at a Yamaha MIDI file, but if memory 
serves, Yamaha was not using standard MIDI instruments.

By that I mean Instrument #1 in a standard MIDI file should be an 
Acoustic Piano, or Piano 1.   Yamaha MIDI files may have Instrument #1 
set to Trumpet, or something different that Acoustic Piano.

To get the Yamaha MIDI files sounding correctly, all you may need to 
do is remap the Yamaha Instrument patches to Standard Midi Instruments 
patches in the Rezound editor.

For example.   Suppose Yamaha is using Track 1 as a Trumpet.  In 
Rezound, you would set Track 1 to the Standard Midi instrument patch 
for Trumpet, which is #57 on an Instrument set that is numbered 1 to 
128. The Trumpet would be patch #56 on a Instrument set that is 
numbered 0 to 127.  (Be aware of these two numbering schemes for 
Standard MIDI files.  If the patch you've specified still sounds like 
the wrong instrument, then increase or decrease the patch number 
you're using by 1 to get to the correct patch.)

Now when Rezound plays Track 1, you should hear a Trumpet playing.

I've not used Rezound, but this is a generic concept when working with 
MIDI files.  This is also how you can reorchestrate a MIDI piece.  If 
you don't like an Acoustic Piano playing on a Track, change the 
Instrument Patch to something else; such as a Harpsichord or Organ.

Or use a different SoundFont to replace a poor sounding Acoustic Piano 
with a better sounding Grand Piano.  When you're working with MIDI, 
you have great control over the final sound of the piece.

Regards,
The Other
Hmmm, well, let me see, In rezound,  if I,
file - open pathtosong_001.mid
I get message,
no handler found to support format for song_001.mid
would you like to use raw format  yes, why not ? 
dialogue box: Raw Parameters,

sample rate 44100 ( scale 4,000 to 96,000)
sample format 16bit (scale 8bit signed to 64 floating point ?)
byte order  0   in bytes
data length  0  in audio frames
so I go, OK

I then attempt to play and get a harsh mushy sound for a few seconds



so following your advice I think maybe, edit , but in there we have may 
parameters from undo redo, copy crop, inserte paste, overwrite paste, 
insert silence, mute, add channnels, swap channels, rotate, and 
selection , but none seem to suggest altering the patch selection , that 
I can see. Though I'm a total newbie here.

I would of though the first message about, no handler found to support 
format for song_001.mid, means just that , doesn't know and understand 
.mid files , but as I say I'm complete newbie here.

John

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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-17 Thread Richard Urwin
On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 2:34 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Hmmm, well, let me see, In rezound,  if I,
 file - open pathtosong_001.mid

 I get message,
 no handler found to support format for song_001.mid
 would you like to use raw format  yes, why not ? 

 dialogue box: Raw Parameters,

 sample rate 44100 ( scale 4,000 to 96,000)
 sample format 16bit (scale 8bit signed to 64 floating point ?)
 byte order  0   in bytes
 data length  0  in audio frames

 so I go, OK

 I then attempt to play and get a harsh mushy sound for a few seconds



 so following your advice I think maybe, edit , but in there we have
 may parameters from undo redo, copy crop, inserte paste, overwrite
 paste, insert silence, mute, add channnels, swap channels, rotate,
 and selection , but none seem to suggest altering the patch selection
 , that I can see. Though I'm a total newbie here.

 I would of though the first message about, no handler found to
 support format for song_001.mid, means just that , doesn't know and
 understand .mid files , but as I say I'm complete newbie here.

I would agree. rezound is a waveform editor. .mid files do not contain 
waveforms, or anything approaching waveforms. Install rosegarden off 
your MDK disks. You should get the right notes, but maybe in the wrong 
voices. If so, load a yamaha soundfont.

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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-17 Thread John Richard Smith
Richard Urwin wrote:

On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 2:34 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

.

I would of though the first message about, no handler found to
support format for song_001.mid, means just that , doesn't know and
understand .mid files , but as I say I'm complete newbie here.
   

I would agree. rezound is a waveform editor. .mid files do not contain 
waveforms, or anything approaching waveforms. Install rosegarden off 
your MDK disks. You should get the right notes, but maybe in the wrong 
voices. If so, load a yamaha soundfont.

 

Slight problems there , with  the rosegarden install,

I downloaded all the suggested files on that web site and ended up with,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /root/Desktop/160703/rosegarden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] rosegarden]# ls
jackit-0.72.5-030617.1mdk.i586.rpm
jackit-example-clients-0.72.5-030617.1mdk.i586.rpm
jackit-realtime-0.72.5-030617.1mdk.i586.rpm
libfftw2-2.1.3-11mdk.i586.rpm
libfftw2-devel-2.1.3-11mdk.i586.rpm
libjack0-0.72.5-030617.1mdk.i586.rpm
libjack0-devel-0.72.5-030617.1mdk.i586.rpm
librosegarden0-4-alsa-0.9.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
librosegarden0-4-alsa-0.9.2.030624-1mdk.i586.rpm
librosegarden0-4-alsa-devel-0.9.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
librosegarden0-4-alsa-devel-0.9.2.030624-1mdk.i586.rpm
librosegarden0-4-arts-0.9.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
librosegarden0-4-arts-devel-0.9.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
python-CDDB-1.3-4mdk.i586.rpm
python-ID3-1.2-2mdk.noarch.rpm
pyvorbis-1.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
rosegarden-4-0.9.1-2mdk.src.rpm
rosegarden-4-alsa-0.9.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
rosegarden-4-alsa-0.9.2.030624-1mdk.i586.rpm
rosegarden-4-arts-0.9.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
src/ ( contains the src  source code rpm's)
and proceeded to install,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rosegarden]# urpmi rosegarden*
The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded:
automake-1.4-21.p6.mdk (due to conflicts with automake[ 1.7.2])
kdevelop-2.1.5-3mdk (due to missing libkdevelopvc.so.2)
do you agree ? (Y/n) y
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be 
installed (28 MB):
arts-1.1.2-3tex.i586
autoconf2.5-2.57-3mdk.noarch
automake1.6-1.7.2-3mdk.noarch
ladspa-1.12-3mdk.i586
ladspa-devel-1.12-3mdk.i586
libarts-1.1.2-3tex.i586
libarts-devel-1.1.2-3tex.i586
libfam0-devel-2.6.9-5mdk.i586
libfftw2-2.1.5-1mdk.i586
libfftw2-devel-2.1.5-1mdk.i586
libnas2-devel-1.6-3mdk.i586
libogg0-devel-1.0-3mdk.i586
libvorbis0-1.0-7tex.i586
libvorbis0-devel-1.0-7tex.i586
libvorbisenc2-1.0-7tex.i586
libvorbisfile3-1.0-7tex.i586
mdkkdm-9.1-26.1tex.i586
rosegarden-4-alsa-0.9.1-2mdk.i586
rosegarden-4-arts-0.9.1-2mdk.i586
Is this OK? (Y/n) y
eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
Please insert the medium named International CD (x86) (cdrom3) on 
device [/dev/scd0]
Press Enter when ready...
eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
Please insert the medium named International CD (x86) (cdrom3) on 
device [/dev/scd0]
Press Enter when ready...

I don't know why it wants M9.1 CD3  else  I thought it had all it 
needed in the download.
but I gave it the CD3 and the above is the result.

Obviously doing something wrong ?

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Re[2]: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-17 Thread rikona
Hello John,

Thursday, July 17, 2003, 3:26:20 AM, you wrote:

JRS I think so, as .mid seems to be something specific to Yamaha,

I don't think so. I have about a thousand .mid files with all sorts of
music. They are in General Midi format, as I recall (been a while
since I looked at this). Some vendors, Yamaha, Roland, etc, do
different things in the files. Some can be fixed by reassigning sounds
and/or other parameters, but some can't because they include things
not defined by others (M$ come to mind here?).

There are a few midi newsgroups, and the people there know quite a lot
about this. You might try there to get specific details.

JRS I'm still looking for something that will both display and allow
JRS me to edit, and in the end convert to an ordinary .wav file
JRS format to write to  CD, and in linux if at all possible.

Quite a while back, there were many tools to do this. To get good
.wav's, you might want to get something that uses very high quality
sounds.

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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-17 Thread John Richard Smith
Richard Urwin wrote:

On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 6:47 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Richard Urwin wrote:
   

Install
rosegarden off your MDK disks. 
 

snip
I downloaded all the suggested files on that web site
snip
Obviously doing something wrong ?
   

I thought I installed off the CDs. Since I cannot now find it on the CDs 
I imagine that I actually installed it off the contrib source at 
Mandrake. 

It's always easier to install off the CDs (or other Mandrake RPM 
sources) if possible, for exactly that reason; you end up with a chain 
of upgrades that in the worst case breaks something else.

CD3 would have been for the several packages that needed installing but 
you didn't download: automake and autoconf for example. And those two 
tell me you were trying to compile the source package. There is no 
need.

The version I have installed is 4.8.5, and here's a link to a binary RPM 
that I found on the web: 
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/9.0/RPMS/rosegarden-4-alsa-0.8.5-2mdk.i586.rpm
Try that. If your urpmi cannot find the right libraries they are also on 
the same page:
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/sound9.0.html

 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi rosegarden with 
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/9.0/RPMS/rosegarden-4-alsa-0.8.5-2mdk.i586.rpm

What am I doing wrong ?

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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-17 Thread Richard Urwin
On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 10:12 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi rosegarden with
 http://rpm.nyvalls.se/9.0/RPMS/rosegarden-4-alsa-0.8.5-2mdk.i586.rpm

 What am I doing wrong ?

You probably need to download it like you did the others that you tried. 
I wont be here until Tuesday now, but I'm unexperienced with urpmi 
anyway, someone else can help if you have problems.

If you are a member of the mandrake club the magic incantation (that 
I've got) for the contrib source is:
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS
with a synthesis/hdlist of:
../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz

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[newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-16 Thread John Richard Smith
I have a daughter good at creating electronically manipulated Sound 
programmes on her Yamaha.

Here is an exaple,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /mnt/ext2-vol7/Christine/tape1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tape1]# ls
disk.mng*  song_004.mid*  song_009.mid*  song_013.mid*  song_017.mid*
song_001.mid*  song_005.mid*  song_010.mid*  song_014.mid*  song_018.mid*
song_002.mid*  song_006.mid*  song_011.mid*  song_015.mid*  song_019.mid*
song_003.mid*  song_008.mid*  song_012.mid*  song_016.mid*  song_n.mng*
OK so it's meanigless to me at this time.

What I need is a Linux programme to assemble and manipulate this stuff.
This is likely to envolve,
1) cut and paste assembly.
2) Signwave display to change and manipulate the character of the sound.
3) mixers.
4) maybe conversion programmes, eg whatever these above are to .wav or .mp3
and no doubt many other things as well that my simplicity of 
understanding is holding me back from enunciating.

Anybody know of a Linux programme or two that works.

John

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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-16 Thread Lanman
Have a look at this site. If it's not there, it probably doesn't exist.


http://rpm.nyvalls.se/

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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-16 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
John Richard Smith wrote:

I have a daughter good at creating electronically manipulated Sound 
programmes on her Yamaha.

Here is an exaple,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /mnt/ext2-vol7/Christine/tape1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tape1]# ls
disk.mng*  song_004.mid*  song_009.mid*  song_013.mid*  song_017.mid*
song_001.mid*  song_005.mid*  song_010.mid*  song_014.mid*  song_018.mid*
song_002.mid*  song_006.mid*  song_011.mid*  song_015.mid*  song_019.mid*
song_003.mid*  song_008.mid*  song_012.mid*  song_016.mid*  song_n.mng*
OK so it's meanigless to me at this time.

What I need is a Linux programme to assemble and manipulate this stuff.
This is likely to envolve,
1) cut and paste assembly.
2) Signwave display to change and manipulate the character of the sound.
3) mixers.
4) maybe conversion programmes, eg whatever these above are to .wav or 
.mp3

and no doubt many other things as well that my simplicity of 
understanding is holding me back from enunciating.

Anybody know of a Linux programme or two that works.

John
http://rezound.sourceforge.net/

I tried it last night and was impressed.

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[newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-16 Thread John Richard Smith
I have a daughter good at creating electronically manipulated Sound
programmes on her Yamaha.
Here is an exaple,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /mnt/ext2-vol7/Christine/tape1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tape1]# ls
disk.mng*  song_004.mid*  song_009.mid*  song_013.mid* 
song_017.mid*
song_001.mid*  song_005.mid*  song_010.mid*  song_014.mid* 
song_018.mid*
song_002.mid*  song_006.mid*  song_011.mid*  song_015.mid* 
song_019.mid*
song_003.mid*  song_008.mid*  song_012.mid*  song_016.mid*  song_n.mng*

OK so it's meanigless to me at this time.

What I need is a Linux programme to assemble and manipulate this stuff.
This is likely to envolve,
1) cut and paste assembly.
2) Signwave display to change and manipulate the character of the sound.
3) mixers.
4) maybe conversion programmes, eg whatever these above are to .wav 
or .mp3

and no doubt many other things as well that my simplicity of
understanding is holding me back from enunciating.
Anybody know of a Linux programme or two that works.

John

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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-16 Thread Lanman
Damn! Didn't know about that one! 

Thanks from me too, Brant!

Lanman

On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 12:26, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 John Richard Smith wrote:
 
  I have a daughter good at creating electronically manipulated Sound 
  programmes on her Yamaha.
 
  Here is an exaple,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /mnt/ext2-vol7/Christine/tape1
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] tape1]# ls
  disk.mng*  song_004.mid*  song_009.mid*  song_013.mid*  song_017.mid*
  song_001.mid*  song_005.mid*  song_010.mid*  song_014.mid*  song_018.mid*
  song_002.mid*  song_006.mid*  song_011.mid*  song_015.mid*  song_019.mid*
  song_003.mid*  song_008.mid*  song_012.mid*  song_016.mid*  song_n.mng*
 
 
  OK so it's meanigless to me at this time.
 
  What I need is a Linux programme to assemble and manipulate this stuff.
  This is likely to envolve,
 
  1) cut and paste assembly.
  2) Signwave display to change and manipulate the character of the sound.
  3) mixers.
  4) maybe conversion programmes, eg whatever these above are to .wav or 
  .mp3
 
  and no doubt many other things as well that my simplicity of 
  understanding is holding me back from enunciating.
 
 
  Anybody know of a Linux programme or two that works.
 
 
  John
 
 http://rezound.sourceforge.net/
 
 I tried it last night and was impressed.


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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-16 Thread Robin Turner
John Richard Smith wrote:
I have a daughter good at creating electronically manipulated Sound
programmes on her Yamaha.
Here is an exaple,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /mnt/ext2-vol7/Christine/tape1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tape1]# ls
disk.mng*  song_004.mid*  song_009.mid*  song_013.mid* song_017.mid*
song_001.mid*  song_005.mid*  song_010.mid*  song_014.mid* song_018.mid*
song_002.mid*  song_006.mid*  song_011.mid*  song_015.mid* song_019.mid*
song_003.mid*  song_008.mid*  song_012.mid*  song_016.mid*  song_n.mng*
OK so it's meanigless to me at this time.

What I need is a Linux programme to assemble and manipulate this stuff.
This is likely to envolve,
1) cut and paste assembly.
2) Signwave display to change and manipulate the character of the sound.
3) mixers.
4) maybe conversion programmes, eg whatever these above are to .wav or .mp3
and no doubt many other things as well that my simplicity of
understanding is holding me back from enunciating.
Anybody know of a Linux programme or two that works.

Try http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/linux/ for a really impressive 
collection of Linux music apps.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-16 Thread Lanman
DoH! Kinda missed that one too, didn't I? OK, my previous post in this
thread was inaccurate. My Bad! Thac's site wasn't the only place for
good audio manipulation. I stand corrected.

Lanman

On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 12:57, Robin Turner wrote:
 John Richard Smith wrote:
  I have a daughter good at creating electronically manipulated Sound
  programmes on her Yamaha.
  
  Here is an exaple,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /mnt/ext2-vol7/Christine/tape1
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] tape1]# ls
  disk.mng*  song_004.mid*  song_009.mid*  song_013.mid* song_017.mid*
  song_001.mid*  song_005.mid*  song_010.mid*  song_014.mid* song_018.mid*
  song_002.mid*  song_006.mid*  song_011.mid*  song_015.mid* song_019.mid*
  song_003.mid*  song_008.mid*  song_012.mid*  song_016.mid*  song_n.mng*
  
  
  OK so it's meanigless to me at this time.
  
  What I need is a Linux programme to assemble and manipulate this stuff.
  This is likely to envolve,
  
  1) cut and paste assembly.
  2) Signwave display to change and manipulate the character of the sound.
  3) mixers.
  4) maybe conversion programmes, eg whatever these above are to .wav or .mp3
  
  and no doubt many other things as well that my simplicity of
  understanding is holding me back from enunciating.
  
  
  Anybody know of a Linux programme or two that works.
  
 Try http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/linux/ for a really impressive 
 collection of Linux music apps.
 
 Sir Robin


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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-16 Thread John Richard Smith
Lanman wrote:

Damn! Didn't know about that one! 

Thanks from me too, Brant!

Lanman

On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 12:26, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 

John Richard Smith wrote:

   

I have a daughter good at creating electronically manipulated Sound 
programmes on her Yamaha.

Here is an exaple,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /mnt/ext2-vol7/Christine/tape1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tape1]# ls
disk.mng*  song_004.mid*  song_009.mid*  song_013.mid*  song_017.mid*
song_001.mid*  song_005.mid*  song_010.mid*  song_014.mid*  song_018.mid*
song_002.mid*  song_006.mid*  song_011.mid*  song_015.mid*  song_019.mid*
song_003.mid*  song_008.mid*  song_012.mid*  song_016.mid*  song_n.mng*
OK so it's meanigless to me at this time.

What I need is a Linux programme to assemble and manipulate this stuff.
This is likely to envolve,
1) cut and paste assembly.
2) Signwave display to change and manipulate the character of the sound.
3) mixers.
4) maybe conversion programmes, eg whatever these above are to .wav or 
.mp3

and no doubt many other things as well that my simplicity of 
understanding is holding me back from enunciating.

Anybody know of a Linux programme or two that works.

John
 

http://rezound.sourceforge.net/

I tried it last night and was impressed.

Rezound
===
I to, am impressed with it. It looks the think I'm looking for .
Sorry to say I don't think it handles these funny yamaha sound files, 
which are all .mid files.
At any rate I cannot seem toget any sense out of the sound generated, 
maybe wrong though, as it's early days and I'm unsure of the controls.

John

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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-16 Thread Richard Urwin
On Wednesday 16 Jul 2003 12:57 pm, Lanman wrote:
 Have a look at this site. If it's not there, it probably doesn't
 exist.


 http://rpm.nyvalls.se/

.mid files are MIDI. I just successfully installed rosegarden as a midi 
implementation here after following the article referenced in Mandrake 
newsletter #81: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=979

Also have a look at 
http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linuxsound/one-page.html

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Re: [newbie] Sound mixer and manipulation programmes

2003-07-16 Thread The Other
John Richard Smith wrote:

Rezound
===
I to, am impressed with it. It looks the think I'm looking for .
Sorry to say I don't think it handles these funny yamaha sound files, 
which are all .mid files.
At any rate I cannot seem toget any sense out of the sound generated, 
maybe wrong though, as it's early days and I'm unsure of the controls.

John
Hello John,

It's been years since I looked at a Yamaha MIDI file, but if memory 
serves, Yamaha was not using standard MIDI instruments.

By that I mean Instrument #1 in a standard MIDI file should be an 
Acoustic Piano, or Piano 1.   Yamaha MIDI files may have Instrument #1 
set to Trumpet, or something different that Acoustic Piano.

To get the Yamaha MIDI files sounding correctly, all you may need to do 
is remap the Yamaha Instrument patches to Standard Midi Instruments 
patches in the Rezound editor.

For example.   Suppose Yamaha is using Track 1 as a Trumpet.  In 
Rezound, you would set Track 1 to the Standard Midi instrument patch for 
Trumpet, which is #57 on an Instrument set that is numbered 1 to 128. 
The Trumpet would be patch #56 on a Instrument set that is numbered 0 
to 127.  (Be aware of these two numbering schemes for Standard MIDI 
files.  If the patch you've specified still sounds like the wrong 
instrument, then increase or decrease the patch number you're using by 1 
to get to the correct patch.)

Now when Rezound plays Track 1, you should hear a Trumpet playing.

I've not used Rezound, but this is a generic concept when working with 
MIDI files.  This is also how you can reorchestrate a MIDI piece.  If 
you don't like an Acoustic Piano playing on a Track, change the 
Instrument Patch to something else; such as a Harpsichord or Organ.

Or use a different SoundFont to replace a poor sounding Acoustic Piano 
with a better sounding Grand Piano.  When you're working with MIDI, you 
have great control over the final sound of the piece.

Regards,
The Other

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[newbie] Sound Mixer

2002-05-29 Thread Spyros Spyropoulos

Hi, 

The actual problem is this:
Allthough The soundcard is configured correctly, there seems to be no sound mixer. 

When I try to play MP3's I get en error warning me to check if my soudcard is 
configured correctly (which is) or that my kernel might not have sound playback 
capabilities (??). 

How do I fix this? I use Mandrake 8.0

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[newbie] Sound Mixer

2000-10-07 Thread Mike Williams

Hi y'all
I have go my SB LIve s/c up and running, but the sound is very low.  I have
tried to open the sound mixer, but get a message that i can't access it and to
change the permission.  This happens even when i log on as root.  But, i went
to the fiolder and changed the permissions, but i sitll can't  access it. 
Anyone have ideas why please?
Thanx
Mike Williams




Re: [newbie] Sound Mixer settings lost a reboot

2000-09-18 Thread Roger Sherman

On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 07:00:33 +0100 (BST), you wrote:

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Roger Sherman wrote:

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 open the file with a text editor.  If your in a gui right click and choose "Open 
With.." and choose the text editor of your choice.  If you are at the command prompt, 
navigate to the directory the file is in and type
 name of text editor rc.local
 
 I use emacs so I would type
 emacs rc.local
 
 

OK, tried that, but it said bash:emacs:command not found. Am I doing something
wrong, or do I not have emacs?

Do you know how to use vi? Or Pico? Or Joe? These are all editors.

No, I don't. There is a section on using vi in my Dummies book (I feel
so silly even writing a sentence like that), but it seems more
experimentation is going to be needed before the commands want to work
for me.



You can also use Kedit in X.

Yep, thats what I did.



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[newbie] Sound Mixer settings lost a reboot

2000-09-17 Thread mdk-newbie-g

I've recently come back to Mandrake after trying several other distros.
I'm using 7.0 as I prefer the menu design over those in the newer
release. I've found that Sound Mixer (in KDE) settings are reset back to
default when I reboot the machine which is just a tad annoying. When
merely restarting KDE my settings hold, but a full reboot generates the
reset. Has anyone else found this to be the case or know of a
configuration setting I need to tweak? Many thanks
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Re: [newbie] Sound Mixer settings lost a reboot

2000-09-17 Thread Roger Sherman

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've recently come back to Mandrake after trying several other distros.
 I'm using 7.0 as I prefer the menu design over those in the newer
 release. I've found that Sound Mixer (in KDE) settings are reset back to
 default when I reboot the machine which is just a tad annoying. When
 merely restarting KDE my settings hold, but a full reboot generates the
 reset. Has anyone else found this to be the case or know of a
 configuration setting I need to tweak? Many thanks


I've had the same problem, and while I haven't had a chance to try out this
solution yet, here is John Rye's reply to me the other day (thanks again, John!)

  Also, theres one problem I've been having (though for the most part this
  foray into Linux has been remarkably painless). Everytime I log into KDE, I
  have to go to Kmix (the app that controls the volume levels), as every time I
  open KDE, they've all reset themselves so all the sliders are at the bottom (in
  other words, no volume. Can't listen to my new Wayne Krantz cd without
  resetting them). How do I get it to save my settings?
  Thanks!
 
 Add the command 'aumix -v xx' where xx is a number between 0 and 99
 to the end of your /etc/rc.d/rc.local - that will set the volume to
 a value you select at startup. 
 
 I found that 30 to 40 was about right for me.

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Rog
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Re: [newbie] Sound Mixer settings lost a reboot

2000-09-17 Thread Roger Sherman

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've recently come back to Mandrake after trying several other distros.
  I'm using 7.0 as I prefer the menu design over those in the newer
  release. I've found that Sound Mixer (in KDE) settings are reset back to
  default when I reboot the machine which is just a tad annoying. When
  merely restarting KDE my settings hold, but a full reboot generates the
  reset. Has anyone else found this to be the case or know of a
  configuration setting I need to tweak? Many thanks
 
 
 I've had the same problem, and while I haven't had a chance to try out this
 solution yet, here is John Rye's reply to me the other day (thanks again, John!)
 
   Also, theres one problem I've been having (though for the most part this
   foray into Linux has been remarkably painless). Everytime I log into KDE, I
   have to go to Kmix (the app that controls the volume levels), as every time I
   open KDE, they've all reset themselves so all the sliders are at the bottom (in
   other words, no volume. Can't listen to my new Wayne Krantz cd without
   resetting them). How do I get it to save my settings?
   Thanks!
  
  Add the command 'aumix -v xx' where xx is a number between 0 and 99
  to the end of your /etc/rc.d/rc.local - that will set the volume to
  a value you select at startup. 
  
  I found that 30 to 40 was about right for me.

So, I just sent the above a couple of minutes ago, and decided to give the
above directions a whirl myself. I opened Konsole, found my way into the
/etc/rc.d/ directory (yes, this is still a challenge for me, like I said in
another post, I'm as newbie as they come), and then it said rc.local wasn't a
directory, so I go find it through KFM (which is almost like a loss to me; I'm
trying really hard to learn to use the terminal window), and I see its a shell
script. So how do I go about modifying one of them? Preferably through Konsole,
but any way will do

Thanks!


peace,

Rog
http://www.slammingrooves.com




Re: [newbie] Sound Mixer settings lost a reboot

2000-09-17 Thread Roger Sherman

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 open the file with a text editor.  If your in a gui right click and choose "Open 
With.." and choose the text editor of your choice.  If you are at the command prompt, 
navigate to the directory the file is in and type
 name of text editor rc.local
 
 I use emacs so I would type
 emacs rc.local
 
 

OK, tried that, but it said bash:emacs:command not found. Am I doing something
wrong, or do I not have emacs?

-- 

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Rog
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Re: [newbie] Sound Mixer settings lost a reboot

2000-09-17 Thread Roger Sherman

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 Roger Sherman wrote:
 [snip]
   I use emacs so I would type
   emacs rc.local
  
  
  
  OK, tried that, but it said bash:emacs:command not found. Am I doing something
  wrong, or do I not have emacs?
 [snip]
 
 Rogerif you have a copy of the emacs executable in your
 /usr/bin directory then emacs should have launched when you
 typed 'emacs rc.local'.  I'd have to guess that you have
 either no emacs executable or an incorrect path in your
 environment.
 
 Alan

LOL...yesno emacs executable. That would seem to be the problem


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Re: [newbie] Sound Mixer settings lost a reboot

2000-09-17 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Roger Sherman wrote:
[snip]
  I use emacs so I would type
  emacs rc.local
 
 
 
 OK, tried that, but it said bash:emacs:command not found. Am I doing
something
 wrong, or do I not have emacs?
[snip]

Rogerif you have a copy of the emacs executable in your
/usr/bin directory then emacs should have launched when you
typed 'emacs rc.local'.  I'd have to guess that you have
either no emacs executable or an incorrect path in your
environment.

Alan




Re: [newbie] Sound Mixer settings lost a reboot

2000-09-17 Thread John Rye

Roger Sherman wrote:
 
 On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, you wrote:
  On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I've recently come back to Mandrake after trying several other distros.
   I'm using 7.0 as I prefer the menu design over those in the newer
   release. I've found that Sound Mixer (in KDE) settings are reset back to
   default when I reboot the machine which is just a tad annoying. When
   merely restarting KDE my settings hold, but a full reboot generates the
   reset. Has anyone else found this to be the case or know of a
   configuration setting I need to tweak? Many thanks
 
 
  I've had the same problem, and while I haven't had a chance to try out this
  solution yet, here is John Rye's reply to me the other day (thanks again, John!)
 
Also, theres one problem I've been having (though for the most part this
foray into Linux has been remarkably painless). Everytime I log into KDE, I
have to go to Kmix (the app that controls the volume levels), as every time I
open KDE, they've all reset themselves so all the sliders are at the bottom (in
other words, no volume. Can't listen to my new Wayne Krantz cd without
resetting them). How do I get it to save my settings?
Thanks!
  
   Add the command 'aumix -v xx' where xx is a number between 0 and 99
   to the end of your /etc/rc.d/rc.local - that will set the volume to
   a value you select at startup.
  
   I found that 30 to 40 was about right for me.
 
 So, I just sent the above a couple of minutes ago, and decided to give the
 above directions a whirl myself. I opened Konsole, found my way into the
 /etc/rc.d/ directory (yes, this is still a challenge for me, like I said in
 another post, I'm as newbie as they come), and then it said rc.local wasn't a
 directory, so I go find it through KFM (which is almost like a loss to me; I'm
 trying really hard to learn to use the terminal window), and I see its a shell
 script. So how do I go about modifying one of them? Preferably through Konsole,
 but any way will do
 
 Thanks!
 
 peace,
 
 Rog
 http://www.slammingrooves.com

Roger

You need to login as root to do this.

Use your favourite editor (If you use KDE there's a simple one on your
task bar)
Navigate to the directory /etc/rc.d  - there you should see the file
called
rc.local -

Open that file and add the line above to the very end.

You could also do this from a terminal using Midnight Commander - in
many
ways this wee utility makes navigation easier as you can see the
directory
structure as you move about. If you've used Norton Commander from MSDOS
you'l already be most of the way there - But remember that utilities
like
this are inherantly dangerous particularly when you are acting as root.

Cheers



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