Re: [newbie] Sound setup help needed

1999-09-18 Thread Sevatio Octavio

The time consumed and difficulty of just setting up the sound alone should scare away 
any chance of Linux spreading worldwide.  Must
it be this difficult?  The average Joe doesn't have time to reinvent the wheel when 
all he wants to do is drive off in a new car.
Sorry, I'm somewhat dishearten about the time wasted.  But then, Microsoft is the 
greater evil... so back to pounding out this
wheel.

Seve.


-Original Message-
From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, September 17, 1999 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Sound setup help needed


On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Sevatio Octavio wrote:

 ls -l /dev/mixer # do you have sufficient access to the device?

 I entered:  ls -l /dev/mixer #
  I get: crw-rw-rw 1 root root  14,  0 May  5  1998 /dev/mixer

c tells it's a character device
r read access for owner
w write access for owner
- nothing this is usualy x which is executable
r read access for group
w write access for group
- nothing same as before, these can also be other things like s for suid
r read access for anyone
w write access for anyone

So yes you have access to /dev/mixer

 How would you interpret this?
 
 also...
 lsmod # do you see anything that might be a sound driver?

 I get:
 ModuleSize   Used by
 sound  57272  0  (autoclean) (unused)
 soundlow  300  0  (autoclean) [sound]
 soundcore  2372  3  (autoclean) [sound]

This is sound, but i do not see a driver for any specific card. I assume
you ran sndconfig as root? what does the conf.modules look like?

rmmod sound
rmmod soundlow
rmmod soundcore
modprobe sound  ~/sounds.broke 21

Now whats ~/sounds.broke have in it? (less ~/sounds.broke) errors?
also maybe something in /var/log/messages. (tail -n10 /var/log/messages)

 nls-iso-8859-1  2020  1  (autoclean)

This is a charset.. (modinfo -d nls-iso-8859-1 # Might say better)

 nsfd  150648  1  (autoclean)
 lockd  30888  1  (autoclean)  [nfsd]
 sunrpc  52644  1  (autoclean)  [nfsd lockd]

nfs modules

 rtl8139  11964  1  (autoclean)

your ethernet card.. (modinfo -d rtl8139)

 Now, how do you interpret that data?  How do you know if it lists the sound driver?

Umm cause it says "sound" three times in a row ;)

 Thanks,
 Seve

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon





Re: [newbie] Sound setup help needed

1999-09-18 Thread Steve Philp

Sevatio Octavio wrote:
 
 The time consumed and difficulty of just setting up the sound alone should scare 
away any 
 chance of Linux spreading worldwide.  Must it be this difficult?  The average Joe 
doesn't 
 have time to reinvent the wheel when all he wants to do is drive off in a new car.
 Sorry, I'm somewhat dishearten about the time wasted.  But then, Microsoft is the 
greater 
 evil... so back to pounding out this wheel.

If you have problems getting sndconfig to work for your sound card, you
might take a look at the OSS drivers.  They're $20, but I've _NEVER_ had
a problem getting them to work.  Installation time is around 10
minutes.  I highly recommend them.

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] Sound setup help needed

1999-09-18 Thread Murray Strome

I will second this recommendation.  You can try it out before you buy it
to make sure it works.  I have succeeded in getting most of the sound
things to work (including KDE CD Player, RealPlayer G2 and playing .MID
and .WAV files) , but not UMP with Netscape.  If anyone can help with
that I would appreciate it.

Murray

Steve Philp wrote:
 
 Sevatio Octavio wrote:
 
  The time consumed and difficulty of just setting up the sound alone should scare 
away any
  chance of Linux spreading worldwide.  Must it be this difficult?  The average Joe 
doesn't
  have time to reinvent the wheel when all he wants to do is drive off in a new car.
  Sorry, I'm somewhat dishearten about the time wasted.  But then, Microsoft is the 
greater
  evil... so back to pounding out this wheel.
 
 If you have problems getting sndconfig to work for your sound card, you
 might take a look at the OSS drivers.  They're $20, but I've _NEVER_ had
 a problem getting them to work.  Installation time is around 10
 minutes.  I highly recommend them.




[newbie] Sound setup help needed

1999-09-17 Thread Sevatio Octavio

I'm trying to get some sound but every time I hit the Mixer button... it tells me:
"kmix.  could not open mixer. perhaps you have no permission to access the mixer 
device..."

What should I do now?  How do you get permission?  Or is it because the driver is not 
present?

Seve



Re: [newbie] Sound setup help needed

1999-09-17 Thread Sevatio Octavio

ls -l /dev/mixer # do you have sufficient access to the device?

I entered:  ls -l /dev/mixer #
 I get: crw-rw-rw 1 root root  14,  0 May  5  1998 /dev/mixer

How would you interpret this?

also...
lsmod # do you see anything that might be a sound driver? 

I get:
ModuleSize   Used by
sound  57272  0  (autoclean) (unused)
soundlow  300  0  (autoclean) [sound]
soundcore  2372  3  (autoclean) [sound]
nls-iso-8859-1  2020  1  (autoclean)
nsfd  150648  1  (autoclean)
lockd  30888  1  (autoclean)  [nfsd]
sunrpc  52644  1  (autoclean)  [nfsd lockd]
rtl8139  11964  1  (autoclean)

Now, how do you interpret that data?  How do you know if it lists the sound driver?

Thanks,
Seve





Re: [newbie] Sound setup help needed

1999-09-17 Thread Mark

On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, you wrote:
 I'm trying to get some sound but every time I hit the Mixer button... it tells me:
 "kmix.  could not open mixer. perhaps you have no permission to access the mixer 
device..."
 
 What should I do now?  How do you get permission?  Or is it because the driver is 
not present?
 
 Seve

One quick question first...can you run sound otherwise?  System soundsother
sound programs etc?


Mark



Re: [newbie] Sound setup help needed

1999-09-17 Thread Sevatio Octavio

No, the only sound that I get is that 'beep'.  However in windows, it has full sound 
capabilities.  So I know that the hardware
connection is correct.

Seveman

-Original Message-
From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, September 17, 1999 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Sound setup help needed


On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, you wrote:
 I'm trying to get some sound but every time I hit the Mixer button... it tells me:
 "kmix.  could not open mixer. perhaps you have no permission to access the mixer 
device..."

 What should I do now?  How do you get permission?  Or is it because the driver is 
not present?

 Seve

One quick question first...can you run sound otherwise?  System soundsother
sound programs etc?


Mark




Re: [newbie] Sound setup help needed

1999-09-17 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Sevatio Octavio wrote:

 ls -l /dev/mixer # do you have sufficient access to the device?
 
 I entered:  ls -l /dev/mixer #
  I get: crw-rw-rw 1 root root  14,  0 May  5  1998 /dev/mixer

c   tells it's a character device
r   read access for owner
w   write access for owner
-   nothing this is usualy x which is executable
r   read access for group
w   write access for group
-   nothing same as before, these can also be other things like s for suid
r   read access for anyone
w   write access for anyone

So yes you have access to /dev/mixer
 
 How would you interpret this?
 
 also...
 lsmod # do you see anything that might be a sound driver? 
 
 I get:
 ModuleSize   Used by
 sound  57272  0  (autoclean) (unused)
 soundlow  300  0  (autoclean) [sound]
 soundcore  2372  3  (autoclean) [sound]

This is sound, but i do not see a driver for any specific card. I assume
you ran sndconfig as root? what does the conf.modules look like?

rmmod sound
rmmod soundlow
rmmod soundcore
modprobe sound  ~/sounds.broke 21

Now whats ~/sounds.broke have in it? (less ~/sounds.broke) errors?
also maybe something in /var/log/messages. (tail -n10 /var/log/messages)

 nls-iso-8859-1  2020  1  (autoclean)

This is a charset.. (modinfo -d nls-iso-8859-1 # Might say better)

 nsfd  150648  1  (autoclean)
 lockd  30888  1  (autoclean)  [nfsd]
 sunrpc  52644  1  (autoclean)  [nfsd lockd]

nfs modules

 rtl8139  11964  1  (autoclean)
 
your ethernet card.. (modinfo -d rtl8139)

 Now, how do you interpret that data?  How do you know if it lists the sound driver?

Umm cause it says "sound" three times in a row ;)
 
 Thanks,
 Seve

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon