Re: [newbie] Teach yourself unix in 24 hours

2003-09-15 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 15 Sep 2003 2:11 am, Eric Huff wrote:
  I tried to locate it and I got the message that my database was 8 days
  old.

 That's funny, that's how old mine was too...

That means you have slocate installed but it is not being updated by its 
overnight cron job.
The most likely reason being your computer is not switched on overnight!

Open your MandrakeControl CentreSoftwareSoftware Install and install the
anacron package.

Anacron checks for cron jobs which have been missed and runs them 15 mins 
after the computer has been switched on.

derek

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Re: [newbie] Teach yourself unix in 24 hours

2003-09-14 Thread Ken Rhodes
Found this link for Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition
can download html or pdf file:
http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz

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From: Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 23:43:21 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Teach yourself unix in 24 hours

 On Saturday September 13 2003 09:56 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
  Don't forget The Rute Users Guide you can buy a copy or
  download either HTML or PDF version from
  http://www.programming-hub.com/Linux_Rute_Users_Tutorial_and_Expo
 sition
 
  If it's not already on your Mandrake CD's (me thinks its is, has 
 been for a long long time), then
 
  tom # urpmi rute
   
 ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/rute-0.9.1-3mdk.noarch.rpm
 installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/rute-0.9.1-3mdk.noarch.rpm
 Preparing...
 ##
1:rute   
 ##
 
  tom $ loci rute
 /usr/lib/menu/rute
 /usr/share/doc/rute-0.9.1
 /usr/share/doc/rute-0.9.1/rute.pdf
  tom $ xpdf /usr/share/doc/rute-0.9.1/rute.pdf
~~  
 Then you can read it
 
   (First thing I do after an install is disable the CD sources, as 
 they're already obsolete. I go to mirrors to get current. 'Course 
 first thing I do with instructions is throw 'em in the trash ;)
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Re: [newbie] Teach yourself unix in 24 hours

2003-09-14 Thread Aron Smith
On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 21:04, Ken Rhodes wrote:
   This link didn't work for me:
   http://www.programming-hub.com/Linux_Rute_Users_Tutorial_and_Exposition
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http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/Books_Computer_books.html
  
  
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Teach yourself unix in 24 hours

2003-09-14 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-09-14 at 11:01, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Saturday 13 September 2003 10:25 am, Curt Tresenriter wrote:
  I've started to read this book and I'm wondering whether or not it's
  worth the time since what I'm really interested in is Linux.
  Is enough of it relevant to make it worthwhile... or is just some of
  it helpful? Are there parts that may as well be be passed over, or
  am I better off focusing on a Linux book?
 
 Curt:
 I've only given the 24 hour books a brief look. IIRC, they have a version for 
 Red Hat that should be closer to Mandrake than a Unix reference. However, 
 given that I can barely learn my own telephone number in 24 hours, I bought:
 1. Running Linux (textbook)
 2. Linux in a Nutshell (reference)
 Both are published by O'Reilly (www.oreilly.com) -- about $75 for the pair.
 -- cmg

You should learn about inodes. That's really important. Other than
inodes the best command to learn about is rm. Great utility, and you
can use it to wipe out literally every Windows based virus, i.e.:

rm -rf /mnt/win_c/*.*

...works wonders.

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Re: [newbie] Teach yourself unix in 24 hours

2003-09-14 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-09-14 at 21:48, C Tresenriter wrote:
 At 07:31 PM 9/14/03 +1000, y'all wrote:
 
   I've only given the 24 hour books a brief look.
 
  Don't forget The Rute Users Guide
 
  You should learn about inodes. That's really important.
  rm -rf /mnt/win_c/*.*
 
   Don't try this at home kids!
 
 Aaron,Carroll, Haymac Stephen,
 
 Thanks for the tips -
 I've already found that some of the commands in the Unix book don't work 
 which led me to ask the question.
 I'm guessing no one has actually used it extensively??
 I'll read the portion on inodes at least.
 
 What are the major differences between the two?

Ok...I'll get on a serious note here, mate. One of the first - VERY
FIRST things that anyone and everyone should read up on and get to know
is system administration. Basic administration tasks. FROM A CONSOLE.
Not from some silly candy-apple GUI. Get to know the guts. System
performance tuning, device drivers, modules, kernel tuning. After all
that jazz, then move on to the XWindows world...

Not a joke - being serious here.

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Re: [newbie] Teach yourself unix in 24 hours

2003-09-14 Thread Curt Tresenriter
On Sunday 14 September 2003 07:19 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

|Not a joke - being serious here.
|
|stephen kuhn - owner

I'm going to get myself a salt lick for my desk just for your posts!
Curt the gullible

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Re: [newbie] Teach yourself unix in 24 hours

2003-09-14 Thread Eric Huff
  tom $ loci rute

C'mon, tell us the alias!   :)

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[newbie] Teach yourself unix in 24 hours

2003-09-13 Thread Curt Tresenriter
I've started to read this book and I'm wondering whether or not it's 
worth the time since what I'm really interested in is Linux.
Is enough of it relevant to make it worthwhile... or is just some of 
it helpful? Are there parts that may as well be be passed over, or 
am I better off focusing on a Linux book?
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Re: [newbie] Teach yourself unix in 24 hours

2003-09-13 Thread HaywireMac
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 09:25:31 -0500
Curt Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 I've started to read this book and I'm wondering whether or not it's 
 worth the time since what I'm really interested in is Linux.
 Is enough of it relevant to make it worthwhile... or is just some of 
 it helpful? Are there parts that may as well be be passed over, or 
 am I better off focusing on a Linux book?

It can't hurt. It sounds like it'll give you a quick and dirty grounding
in the internal workings, like filesystems, CLI, and stuff.

If you do some googling, there are a lot of free online Linux training
courses, IIRC IBM has one that is pretty thorough.

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Re: [newbie] Teach yourself unix in 24 hours

2003-09-13 Thread Aron Smith
On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 18:01, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Saturday 13 September 2003 10:25 am, Curt Tresenriter wrote:
  I've started to read this book and I'm wondering whether or not it's
  worth the time since what I'm really interested in is Linux.
  Is enough of it relevant to make it worthwhile... or is just some of
  it helpful? Are there parts that may as well be be passed over, or
  am I better off focusing on a Linux book?
 
 Curt:
 I've only given the 24 hour books a brief look. IIRC, they have a version for 
 Red Hat that should be closer to Mandrake than a Unix reference. However, 
 given that I can barely learn my own telephone number in 24 hours, I bought:
 1. Running Linux (textbook)
 2. Linux in a Nutshell (reference)
 Both are published by O'Reilly (www.oreilly.com) -- about $75 for the pair.
 -- cmg
Don't forget The Rute Users Guide you can buy a copy or download
either HTML or PDF version from
http://www.programming-hub.com/Linux_Rute_Users_Tutorial_and_Exposition
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Teach yourself unix in 24 hours

2003-09-13 Thread Ken Rhodes
  This link didn't work for me:
  http://www.programming-hub.com/Linux_Rute_Users_Tutorial_and_Exposition
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Re: [newbie] Teach yourself unix in 24 hours

2003-09-13 Thread Eric Huff
 Don't forget The Rute Users Guide you can buy a copy or download
 either HTML or PDF version from
 http://www.programming-hub.com/Linux_Rute_Users_Tutorial_and_Exposition

You can also rpm it!

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Re: [newbie] Teach yourself unix in 24 hours

2003-09-13 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday September 13 2003 09:56 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
 Don't forget The Rute Users Guide you can buy a copy or
 download either HTML or PDF version from
 http://www.programming-hub.com/Linux_Rute_Users_Tutorial_and_Expo
sition

 If it's not already on your Mandrake CD's (me thinks its is, has 
been for a long long time), then

 tom # urpmi rute
  
ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/rute-0.9.1-3mdk.noarch.rpm
installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/rute-0.9.1-3mdk.noarch.rpm
Preparing...
##
   1:rute   
##

 tom $ loci rute
/usr/lib/menu/rute
/usr/share/doc/rute-0.9.1
/usr/share/doc/rute-0.9.1/rute.pdf
 tom $ xpdf /usr/share/doc/rute-0.9.1/rute.pdf
   ~~  
Then you can read it

  (First thing I do after an install is disable the CD sources, as 
they're already obsolete. I go to mirrors to get current. 'Course 
first thing I do with instructions is throw 'em in the trash ;)
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