Re: [newbie] Two Boxes (Linux and Win)
Yeah You are right that Linux is superior to Windows as far as development but most users are using win so I need to test my site on windows. I have to tweak the code to meet win requirements. I do use hand coding. Anyway, how can I get VMWare? How much is it? From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Two Boxes (Linux and Win) Date: 14 Dec 2002 18:30:14 +1100 On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 13:22, Warren Post wrote: El jue, 12-12-2002 a las 11:48, Mr. VLE79E escribió: I am planning to run two boxes. A Linux box to be my http server and a win box for developing web sites... I'm not answering your question, but if you don't mind my jumping in may I suggest you rethink your idea to use a Windows box for website development. I do websites and use Windows only at gunpoint. The apps available in Linux are so far beyond what Windows has to offer that there is no comparison. Code editors? Bluefish and Quanta beat their Windows brethren. Preprocessors? What few there are for Windows are mostly ports or ripoffs from *nix. WYSIWYG? I recommend hand coding, but IBM's Websphere stands up well to Dreamweaver. M$ Runt Page is too unworthy for comparison. Image editors? Gimp compares very well to Photoshop. Granted, if you have a favorite tool that you just can't live without, you might be stuck with Windows if it won't run in Wine. I still need a Windows box around to test my sites in M$IE. And if you do ASP, you may well want your web server to be IIS on Windows. But in general, I think you'll find Linux far superior to Windows for website development. YMMV, as always. For my situation, I just run WinXP Pro in a VMWare window - do everything without ever leaving linux...and yeah, hand coding is better - at least you're IN CONTROL of what code yer throwing on the web... I've also tweaked out my WINE so that I can run some apps under linux - like Fractal Painter 5.0 - currently working on CorelDraw10...just a few more dll's to trace out... In our home network, the linux box is the mail server, internet router/firewall, dns server internally, dhcp server, web server, ftp server, samba server (PDC), newsgroup server (only a few) - the other boxes that ARE Windows are generally for either the wife to check eBay, do mail and play solitaire, or for testing...but all in all, the one linux box is doing the job of two Windows machines - and more... Where else can you run Win98SE, WinXP Pro and OS/2 all at the same time without ever leaving your home environment or having more than one computer? -- Sat Dec 14 18:25:00 EST 2002 6:25pm up 3 days, 10:47, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.12 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn What this country needs is a good five cent microcomputer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Two Boxes (Linux and Win)
El jue, 12-12-2002 a las 11:48, Mr. VLE79E escribió: I am planning to run two boxes. A Linux box to be my http server and a win box for developing web sites... I'm not answering your question, but if you don't mind my jumping in may I suggest you rethink your idea to use a Windows box for website development. I do websites and use Windows only at gunpoint. The apps available in Linux are so far beyond what Windows has to offer that there is no comparison. Code editors? Bluefish and Quanta beat their Windows brethren. Preprocessors? What few there are for Windows are mostly ports or ripoffs from *nix. WYSIWYG? I recommend hand coding, but IBM's Websphere stands up well to Dreamweaver. M$ Runt Page is too unworthy for comparison. Image editors? Gimp compares very well to Photoshop. Granted, if you have a favorite tool that you just can't live without, you might be stuck with Windows if it won't run in Wine. I still need a Windows box around to test my sites in M$IE. And if you do ASP, you may well want your web server to be IIS on Windows. But in general, I think you'll find Linux far superior to Windows for website development. YMMV, as always. -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras http://srcopan.vze.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Two Boxes (Linux and Win)
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 13:22, Warren Post wrote: El jue, 12-12-2002 a las 11:48, Mr. VLE79E escribió: I am planning to run two boxes. A Linux box to be my http server and a win box for developing web sites... I'm not answering your question, but if you don't mind my jumping in may I suggest you rethink your idea to use a Windows box for website development. I do websites and use Windows only at gunpoint. The apps available in Linux are so far beyond what Windows has to offer that there is no comparison. Code editors? Bluefish and Quanta beat their Windows brethren. Preprocessors? What few there are for Windows are mostly ports or ripoffs from *nix. WYSIWYG? I recommend hand coding, but IBM's Websphere stands up well to Dreamweaver. M$ Runt Page is too unworthy for comparison. Image editors? Gimp compares very well to Photoshop. Granted, if you have a favorite tool that you just can't live without, you might be stuck with Windows if it won't run in Wine. I still need a Windows box around to test my sites in M$IE. And if you do ASP, you may well want your web server to be IIS on Windows. But in general, I think you'll find Linux far superior to Windows for website development. YMMV, as always. For my situation, I just run WinXP Pro in a VMWare window - do everything without ever leaving linux...and yeah, hand coding is better - at least you're IN CONTROL of what code yer throwing on the web... I've also tweaked out my WINE so that I can run some apps under linux - like Fractal Painter 5.0 - currently working on CorelDraw10...just a few more dll's to trace out... In our home network, the linux box is the mail server, internet router/firewall, dns server internally, dhcp server, web server, ftp server, samba server (PDC), newsgroup server (only a few) - the other boxes that ARE Windows are generally for either the wife to check eBay, do mail and play solitaire, or for testing...but all in all, the one linux box is doing the job of two Windows machines - and more... Where else can you run Win98SE, WinXP Pro and OS/2 all at the same time without ever leaving your home environment or having more than one computer? -- Sat Dec 14 18:25:00 EST 2002 6:25pm up 3 days, 10:47, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.12 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn What this country needs is a good five cent microcomputer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Two Boxes (Linux and Win)
I am planning to run two boxes. A Linux box to be my http server and a win box for developing web sites. This will be only in my home for testing purposes. Does anyone know how do this. I want the Linux box to be the server and the win box to be client-- ie when I write www.anything.com on my win browser, I want it to get it from the Linux box. I am hope my explanation is good enough. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Two Boxes (Linux and Win)
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 04:48, Mr. VLE79E wrote: I am planning to run two boxes. A Linux box to be my http server and a win box for developing web sites. This will be only in my home for testing purposes. Does anyone know how do this. I want the Linux box to be the server and the win box to be client-- ie when I write www.anything.com on my win browser, I want it to get it from the Linux box. I am hope my explanation is good enough. By first installing linux on the server and making sure you have SAMBA installed/configured properly (and setting the hostname), you should be good to go. That in itself will require very little customization. -- Fri Dec 13 07:50:01 EST 2002 7:50am up 2 days, 12 min, 5 users, load average: 0.75, 0.40, 0.27 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn People's Action Rules: (1) Some people who can, shouldn't. (2) Some people who should, won't. (3) Some people who shouldn't, will. (4) Some people who can't, will try, regardless. (5) Some people who shouldn't, but try, will then blame others. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Two Boxes (Linux and Win)
We, Hm, where should we all start. I am sure the list will reply with piles of information, or disregard everything, in any case, I enjoy helping people so I will start from the basics. 1.) It does not matter where your win box sits and where your linux box sits. You dont want to dive into samba or afs quite yet. 2.) install apache for your web server (FROM SOURCE), http://apache.org has everything you need 3.) make sure you install SSH to get into the box from your windows box, everything from there is up to you :) I hope the list has more to say.. I dont know where you will end up from here. On Thursday 12 December 2002 10:48 am, Mr. VLE79E wrote: I am planning to run two boxes. A Linux box to be my http server and a win box for developing web sites. This will be only in my home for testing purposes. Does anyone know how do this. I want the Linux box to be the server and the win box to be client-- ie when I write www.anything.com on my win browser, I want it to get it from the Linux box. I am hope my explanation is good enough. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies Inc. (719) 473-2800 x15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
