Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound

2003-12-14 Thread Langsley T Russell
Charlie, you said:

 The next thing you need to do is open a terminal, become super user
 and run the command drakxservices. Be sure sound is set to start at
 boot as well as alsa if 
 that's what you're using. Just scroll down the list and find the
 services set to start at boot. If those two aren't in state running
 click the relevant 
 Start buttons to activate them.

I ran the drakxservices command and found that sound is indeed set to
start at boot. alsa, on the other hand, is not. I tried clicking on
start and got the message alsa driver not running I clicked on start
at boot and clicked on the start button again and got the same message.
So I deselected start at boot for alsa and closed the window. 

I then ran draksound. The info in the window is as follows, 
Your card currently uses the OSS es1371 driver (default driver
for your card is es1371)

I opened the drakservices window again to look for the settings for OSS.
Of course there is no listing for OSS or es1371 in the drakxservices
window.

I reopened the draksound window and clicked on troubleshooting. This
simply brought up a window telling me what various commands tell me.
/sbin/lsmod said it would tell me whether or not the driver is loaded so
I typed /sbin/lsmod at the command prompt and waited. Obviously nothing
was happening, so, after a while I closed the sound configuration
window. Once I closed the sound configuration window, the previously
entered /sbin/lsmod produced the following.
/sbin/lsmod
Module   Size  Used byNot tainted
ppp_deflate  4472   0  (autoclean)
bsd_comp 5400   0  (autoclean)
lp   8160   0
parport_pc  25544   1
parport 34472   1  [lp parport_pc]
mga 98332  14
agpgart 48292   3  (autoclean)
es1371  27788   1
ac97_codec  15828   0  [es1371]
soundcore6340   0  [es1371]
gameport 3268   0  [es1371]
ppp_async9312   1
ppp_generc  24292   3  [ppp_deflate bsd_comp ppp_async]
slhc 6564   0  [ppp_generic]
af_packet   14856   0  (autoclean)
sr_mod  19384   0  (autoclean)
floppy  55932   0
nls_iso8859- 3484   2  (autoclean)
nls_cp8504284   2  (autoclean)
vfat11820   2  (autoclean)
fat 38040   0  (autoclean) [vfat]
supermount  84032   3  (autoclean)
ide-cd  33956   0
cdrom   32608   0  [sr_mod ide-cd]
ide-scsi11376   0
usb-uhci25136   0  (unused)
usbcore 74988   1  [usb-uhci]
rtc  9004   0  (autoclean)
ext360048   2
jbd 39264   2  [ext3]
sd_mod  12188   0  (unused)
aic7xxx162160   0
scsi_mod93344   4  [sr_mod ide-scsi sd_mod aic7xxx]

I wish I could say I understand any of this, but unfortunately, that is
just not the case.

It appeared that other commands listed only offered the information
already contained in the sound configuration window, so I didn't bother
running any of them. 

I did click on the help button and found that apparently alsa is a
newer, more powerful alternative to OSS. But does that mean I should
be using alsa in spite of the fact that OSS is apparently the default
for my sound card? Or did I misinterpret the information in the sound
configuration window? If alsa is what is needed, how do I start it?

Thanks again for all the help and *patience*!

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Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound

2003-12-14 Thread Langsley T Russell
On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 15:52, Anne Wilson wrote:

 I couldn't say about that particular card, but my older machine has a 
 SB Live!5.1 which shows up as an es1371.  My original SB Live!5.1 
 used the emu10k1, but this one will not run with that driver.  It 
 seems that boards having the same name do not necessarily mean that 
 they are identical.
 
 In this box I have an Audigy Platinum.  The default for that is OSS, 
 but emu10k2 is an alternative driver.  I found that I got much better 
 results by changing to that.  If you are offered an alternative 
 driver, try it.  You can always change it back if it doesn't help.
 
 Anne

Following your suggestion I changed the driver to the other option
offered. Then I thought how do I test it?
I opened the Configuration-KDE-Look and Feel-system notifications and
tested one of the wav choices. Still no sound. So I went back and
changed the driver back to the original es1371. 

I returned again to the System notification configuration and tried
again. Still no sound. So I figured I'd try playing with any setting
options I could find basically setting everything to maximum.  Still no
luck. 

Then I clicked on player settings. I noted that Use External Player
was checked but that no player was specified. I deselected the use
external player option and tried again. I selected the KDE open wav file
and hit the play button. The resulting sound rose me from my chair,
startled everyone in the house, and sent the dogs barking to get out.
After letting the dogs out,I adjusted the volume and tried again with
much less startling results. 

So apparently the problem all along was that somehow or other the use
external player option was selected at some point. During the update?? I
don't know, but my sound system appears to be working at this point. 

Thanks again to everybody for all the help with this!! 

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Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound

2003-12-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 14 Dec 2003 10:10 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:

 Then I clicked on player settings. I noted that Use External
 Player was checked but that no player was specified. I deselected
 the use external player option and tried again. I selected the KDE
 open wav file and hit the play button. The resulting sound rose me
 from my chair, startled everyone in the house, and sent the dogs
 barking to get out. After letting the dogs out,I adjusted the
 volume and tried again with much less startling results.

 So apparently the problem all along was that somehow or other the
 use external player option was selected at some point. During the
 update?? I don't know, but my sound system appears to be working at
 this point.

 Thanks again to everybody for all the help with this!!

LOL - glad you got it sorted

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Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound

2003-12-13 Thread Langsley T Russell
Hi again Charlie.

You said: 

 I thought that was fixed, or have I confused this thread with another?
 What sound card (on-board, PCI card???) chip-set? Do you have aumix
 installed, if 
 not I recommend you do so and post the output of 
 
 aumix -q

OK, I installed aumix and below is the output resulting from aumix -q.

vol 64, 64
pcm 64, 64
speaker 64, 64
line 64, 64, R
mic 64, 64, P
cd 64, 64, P
igain 64, 64, P
line1 64, 64, P
phin 64, 64, P
phout 64, 64
video 64, 64, P

I hope it means something to you because it sure doesn't to me. ;~)

I'm running a  Sound Blaster AudioPCI64V/AudioPCI128 That's the way it
is listed by HardDrake in Mandrake Control Center, which I believe is
reasonably accurate. It is an old PCI card from a previous box.

Thanks again.

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Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound

2003-12-13 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Saturday 13 December 2003 10:35 am, Langsley T Russell wrote:
 Hi again Charlie.

 You said:
  I thought that was fixed, or have I confused this thread with another?
  What sound card (on-board, PCI card???) chip-set? Do you have aumix
  installed, if
  not I recommend you do so and post the output of
 
  aumix -q

 OK, I installed aumix and below is the output resulting from aumix -q.

 vol 64, 64
 pcm 64, 64
 speaker 64, 64
 line 64, 64, R
 mic 64, 64, P
 cd 64, 64, P
 igain 64, 64, P
 line1 64, 64, P
 phin 64, 64, P
 phout 64, 64
 video 64, 64, P

 I hope it means something to you because it sure doesn't to me. ;~)

So shoot me, I prefer plain text configuration files. Besides that was easier 
to copy and paste than a lot of individual displays from a GUI wasn't it? 
Smaller than a screen shot too. (-;

Those are the volume levels set for your sound system. The next thing you need 
to do is open a terminal, become super user and run the command 
drakxservices. Be sure sound is set to start at boot as well as alsa if 
that's what you're using. Just scroll down the list and find the services set 
to start at boot. If those two aren't in state running click the relevant 
Start buttons to activate them. Anything you aren't sure of just click the 
info button.

After you've done that close the services by clicking OK and when you are back 
at the command prompt run the draksound command. We shall see what results 
from clicking the trouble shooting button. Follow the instructions displayed. 
Post any interesting messages you see in the terminal or any problems or 
errors and warnings.

We'll try different alternatives if we can't make the setup work as it is now. 
Later. (-:

The list needs to know what driver your sound system is currently set to use 
and whether you are offered any alternatives. The output of the commands you 
run as suggested in the trouble shooting dialogue. Assuming of course this 
doesn't result in having sound working. Even if it does you'll need to keep a 
text file of what you did, what you had to do, and the result of any 
aggravation from well meaning idiots like me. g 

If you don't document the steps and solutions and how you achieved the results 
Anne Wilson will string us both up. You have to post your trials and 
tribulations and their resolution on the Community Wiki. 

http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org

That's the price of admission these days. lol

 I'm running a  Sound Blaster AudioPCI64V/AudioPCI128 That's the way it
 is listed by HardDrake in Mandrake Control Center, which I believe is
 reasonably accurate. It is an old PCI card from a previous box.

 Thanks again.

 LTR  }}:{(
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Hang in there Langsley. I still say you can do this.

Charlie
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Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound

2003-12-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 13 Dec 2003 6:36 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:

 If you don't document the steps and solutions and how you achieved
 the results Anne Wilson will string us both up. You have to post
 your trials and tribulations and their resolution on the Community
 Wiki.

 http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org

 That's the price of admission these days. lol

Glad to see that you're flying the flag while I'm away, Charlie.

  I'm running a  Sound Blaster AudioPCI64V/AudioPCI128 That's the
  way it is listed by HardDrake in Mandrake Control Center, which I
  believe is reasonably accurate. It is an old PCI card from a
  previous box.
 
  Thanks again.
 
  LTR  }}:{(
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 Hang in there Langsley. I still say you can do this.

Keep at it, Langsley.  I'm sure you'll get there.

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Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound

2003-12-13 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Saturday 13 December 2003 11:44 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Saturday 13 Dec 2003 6:36 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:
  If you don't document the steps and solutions and how you achieved
  the results Anne Wilson will string us both up. You have to post
  your trials and tribulations and their resolution on the Community
  Wiki.
 
  http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org
 
  That's the price of admission these days. lol

 Glad to see that you're flying the flag while I'm away, Charlie.

I know my only contributions to the Wiki have been in the form of copy and 
pastes from answers I've posted. By others. For that I apologize. But since I 
was one of the Professional $#!t disturbers whose endless complaining seems 
to have caused Vincent to set it up for us it only seems fair that I start 
somewhere. 

I promise that as soon as things slow a bit round here I'll post a few 
articles I've already written to the site.

On condition that my dear friends Anne and Eric and Greg will delegate someone 
to proof read before they're posted? g

Someone has to help me keep my verbal diarrhoea in check. LOL

  Hang in there Langsley. I still say you can do this.

 Keep at it, Langsley.  I'm sure you'll get there.

 Anne

Thanks Anne.

C.
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Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound

2003-12-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 13 Dec 2003 7:00 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:
  Glad to see that you're flying the flag while I'm away, Charlie.

 I know my only contributions to the Wiki have been in the form of
 copy and pastes from answers I've posted. By others. For that I
 apologize. But since I was one of the Professional $#!t
 disturbers whose endless complaining seems to have caused Vincent
 to set it up for us it only seems fair that I start somewhere.

 I promise that as soon as things slow a bit round here I'll post a
 few articles I've already written to the site.

 On condition that my dear friends Anne and Eric and Greg will
 delegate someone to proof read before they're posted? g

Any help you need, just ask.  But then with TWiki it's easy enough to 
go back and tidy up if necessary.  All offerings gratefully received.  
It's good to see the information growing.

Anne
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