Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound
Charlie, you said: The next thing you need to do is open a terminal, become super user and run the command drakxservices. Be sure sound is set to start at boot as well as alsa if that's what you're using. Just scroll down the list and find the services set to start at boot. If those two aren't in state running click the relevant Start buttons to activate them. I ran the drakxservices command and found that sound is indeed set to start at boot. alsa, on the other hand, is not. I tried clicking on start and got the message alsa driver not running I clicked on start at boot and clicked on the start button again and got the same message. So I deselected start at boot for alsa and closed the window. I then ran draksound. The info in the window is as follows, Your card currently uses the OSS es1371 driver (default driver for your card is es1371) I opened the drakservices window again to look for the settings for OSS. Of course there is no listing for OSS or es1371 in the drakxservices window. I reopened the draksound window and clicked on troubleshooting. This simply brought up a window telling me what various commands tell me. /sbin/lsmod said it would tell me whether or not the driver is loaded so I typed /sbin/lsmod at the command prompt and waited. Obviously nothing was happening, so, after a while I closed the sound configuration window. Once I closed the sound configuration window, the previously entered /sbin/lsmod produced the following. /sbin/lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted ppp_deflate 4472 0 (autoclean) bsd_comp 5400 0 (autoclean) lp 8160 0 parport_pc 25544 1 parport 34472 1 [lp parport_pc] mga 98332 14 agpgart 48292 3 (autoclean) es1371 27788 1 ac97_codec 15828 0 [es1371] soundcore6340 0 [es1371] gameport 3268 0 [es1371] ppp_async9312 1 ppp_generc 24292 3 [ppp_deflate bsd_comp ppp_async] slhc 6564 0 [ppp_generic] af_packet 14856 0 (autoclean) sr_mod 19384 0 (autoclean) floppy 55932 0 nls_iso8859- 3484 2 (autoclean) nls_cp8504284 2 (autoclean) vfat11820 2 (autoclean) fat 38040 0 (autoclean) [vfat] supermount 84032 3 (autoclean) ide-cd 33956 0 cdrom 32608 0 [sr_mod ide-cd] ide-scsi11376 0 usb-uhci25136 0 (unused) usbcore 74988 1 [usb-uhci] rtc 9004 0 (autoclean) ext360048 2 jbd 39264 2 [ext3] sd_mod 12188 0 (unused) aic7xxx162160 0 scsi_mod93344 4 [sr_mod ide-scsi sd_mod aic7xxx] I wish I could say I understand any of this, but unfortunately, that is just not the case. It appeared that other commands listed only offered the information already contained in the sound configuration window, so I didn't bother running any of them. I did click on the help button and found that apparently alsa is a newer, more powerful alternative to OSS. But does that mean I should be using alsa in spite of the fact that OSS is apparently the default for my sound card? Or did I misinterpret the information in the sound configuration window? If alsa is what is needed, how do I start it? Thanks again for all the help and *patience*! LTR }}:{( [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound
On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 15:52, Anne Wilson wrote: I couldn't say about that particular card, but my older machine has a SB Live!5.1 which shows up as an es1371. My original SB Live!5.1 used the emu10k1, but this one will not run with that driver. It seems that boards having the same name do not necessarily mean that they are identical. In this box I have an Audigy Platinum. The default for that is OSS, but emu10k2 is an alternative driver. I found that I got much better results by changing to that. If you are offered an alternative driver, try it. You can always change it back if it doesn't help. Anne Following your suggestion I changed the driver to the other option offered. Then I thought how do I test it? I opened the Configuration-KDE-Look and Feel-system notifications and tested one of the wav choices. Still no sound. So I went back and changed the driver back to the original es1371. I returned again to the System notification configuration and tried again. Still no sound. So I figured I'd try playing with any setting options I could find basically setting everything to maximum. Still no luck. Then I clicked on player settings. I noted that Use External Player was checked but that no player was specified. I deselected the use external player option and tried again. I selected the KDE open wav file and hit the play button. The resulting sound rose me from my chair, startled everyone in the house, and sent the dogs barking to get out. After letting the dogs out,I adjusted the volume and tried again with much less startling results. So apparently the problem all along was that somehow or other the use external player option was selected at some point. During the update?? I don't know, but my sound system appears to be working at this point. Thanks again to everybody for all the help with this!! LTR }}:{( [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound
On Sunday 14 Dec 2003 10:10 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote: Then I clicked on player settings. I noted that Use External Player was checked but that no player was specified. I deselected the use external player option and tried again. I selected the KDE open wav file and hit the play button. The resulting sound rose me from my chair, startled everyone in the house, and sent the dogs barking to get out. After letting the dogs out,I adjusted the volume and tried again with much less startling results. So apparently the problem all along was that somehow or other the use external player option was selected at some point. During the update?? I don't know, but my sound system appears to be working at this point. Thanks again to everybody for all the help with this!! LOL - glad you got it sorted Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound
Hi again Charlie. You said: I thought that was fixed, or have I confused this thread with another? What sound card (on-board, PCI card???) chip-set? Do you have aumix installed, if not I recommend you do so and post the output of aumix -q OK, I installed aumix and below is the output resulting from aumix -q. vol 64, 64 pcm 64, 64 speaker 64, 64 line 64, 64, R mic 64, 64, P cd 64, 64, P igain 64, 64, P line1 64, 64, P phin 64, 64, P phout 64, 64 video 64, 64, P I hope it means something to you because it sure doesn't to me. ;~) I'm running a Sound Blaster AudioPCI64V/AudioPCI128 That's the way it is listed by HardDrake in Mandrake Control Center, which I believe is reasonably accurate. It is an old PCI card from a previous box. Thanks again. LTR }}:{( [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday 13 December 2003 10:35 am, Langsley T Russell wrote: Hi again Charlie. You said: I thought that was fixed, or have I confused this thread with another? What sound card (on-board, PCI card???) chip-set? Do you have aumix installed, if not I recommend you do so and post the output of aumix -q OK, I installed aumix and below is the output resulting from aumix -q. vol 64, 64 pcm 64, 64 speaker 64, 64 line 64, 64, R mic 64, 64, P cd 64, 64, P igain 64, 64, P line1 64, 64, P phin 64, 64, P phout 64, 64 video 64, 64, P I hope it means something to you because it sure doesn't to me. ;~) So shoot me, I prefer plain text configuration files. Besides that was easier to copy and paste than a lot of individual displays from a GUI wasn't it? Smaller than a screen shot too. (-; Those are the volume levels set for your sound system. The next thing you need to do is open a terminal, become super user and run the command drakxservices. Be sure sound is set to start at boot as well as alsa if that's what you're using. Just scroll down the list and find the services set to start at boot. If those two aren't in state running click the relevant Start buttons to activate them. Anything you aren't sure of just click the info button. After you've done that close the services by clicking OK and when you are back at the command prompt run the draksound command. We shall see what results from clicking the trouble shooting button. Follow the instructions displayed. Post any interesting messages you see in the terminal or any problems or errors and warnings. We'll try different alternatives if we can't make the setup work as it is now. Later. (-: The list needs to know what driver your sound system is currently set to use and whether you are offered any alternatives. The output of the commands you run as suggested in the trouble shooting dialogue. Assuming of course this doesn't result in having sound working. Even if it does you'll need to keep a text file of what you did, what you had to do, and the result of any aggravation from well meaning idiots like me. g If you don't document the steps and solutions and how you achieved the results Anne Wilson will string us both up. You have to post your trials and tribulations and their resolution on the Community Wiki. http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org That's the price of admission these days. lol I'm running a Sound Blaster AudioPCI64V/AudioPCI128 That's the way it is listed by HardDrake in Mandrake Control Center, which I believe is reasonably accurate. It is an old PCI card from a previous box. Thanks again. LTR }}:{( [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hang in there Langsley. I still say you can do this. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 10:59:45 up 1 day, 19:32, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.27, 0.28 It's always darkest just before the lights go out. -- Alex Clark -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/21xJZqvqlrLPr5YRAtEuAKCAi8066kGQK6ofxUusEALtel7e5gCgolFN cD5CyQltdNdUlzkfUVWQsRs= =DG7S -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound
On Saturday 13 Dec 2003 6:36 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: If you don't document the steps and solutions and how you achieved the results Anne Wilson will string us both up. You have to post your trials and tribulations and their resolution on the Community Wiki. http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org That's the price of admission these days. lol Glad to see that you're flying the flag while I'm away, Charlie. I'm running a Sound Blaster AudioPCI64V/AudioPCI128 That's the way it is listed by HardDrake in Mandrake Control Center, which I believe is reasonably accurate. It is an old PCI card from a previous box. Thanks again. LTR }}:{( [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hang in there Langsley. I still say you can do this. Keep at it, Langsley. I'm sure you'll get there. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday 13 December 2003 11:44 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 13 Dec 2003 6:36 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: If you don't document the steps and solutions and how you achieved the results Anne Wilson will string us both up. You have to post your trials and tribulations and their resolution on the Community Wiki. http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org That's the price of admission these days. lol Glad to see that you're flying the flag while I'm away, Charlie. I know my only contributions to the Wiki have been in the form of copy and pastes from answers I've posted. By others. For that I apologize. But since I was one of the Professional $#!t disturbers whose endless complaining seems to have caused Vincent to set it up for us it only seems fair that I start somewhere. I promise that as soon as things slow a bit round here I'll post a few articles I've already written to the site. On condition that my dear friends Anne and Eric and Greg will delegate someone to proof read before they're posted? g Someone has to help me keep my verbal diarrhoea in check. LOL Hang in there Langsley. I still say you can do this. Keep at it, Langsley. I'm sure you'll get there. Anne Thanks Anne. C. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 11:52:28 up 1 day, 20:25, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.07 Actresses will happen in the best regulated families. -- Addison Mizner and Oliver Herford, The Entirely New Cynic's Calendar, 1905 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/22HbZqvqlrLPr5YRAhX4AKC2+PSLIVG/pJBG1TmKVpC48QufXwCfVtdh 06ucYwOeLr1iyvs8cGfv77U= =5hV8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again/Sound
On Saturday 13 Dec 2003 7:00 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: Glad to see that you're flying the flag while I'm away, Charlie. I know my only contributions to the Wiki have been in the form of copy and pastes from answers I've posted. By others. For that I apologize. But since I was one of the Professional $#!t disturbers whose endless complaining seems to have caused Vincent to set it up for us it only seems fair that I start somewhere. I promise that as soon as things slow a bit round here I'll post a few articles I've already written to the site. On condition that my dear friends Anne and Eric and Greg will delegate someone to proof read before they're posted? g Any help you need, just ask. But then with TWiki it's easy enough to go back and tidy up if necessary. All offerings gratefully received. It's good to see the information growing. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com