[newbie] Win4Lin vs. Wine vs. VMWare

2003-03-13 Thread Brian
I guess I don't understand why you would choose one of these over the 
other.  I am familiar with VMWare, and that seems to make the most sense 
if you need to run a particular Windows (or other OS) application within 
Linux.  I know it is a virtual machine and will let you connect back to 
the primary host OS via the network and share ports.

In the conversation about Win4Lin it sounded as if that worked in a very 
similar way.  I only know that Wine and Win4Lin are supposed to provide 
a way to run Windows applications within Linux, but I was wondering why 
you might choose one of these three particular products over another.

I am probably going to invest in one of them (most likely VMWare) but i 
would like to understand the differences before I make a decision.

Thanks,
B

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Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs. Wine vs. VMWare

2003-03-13 Thread Preston-Campbell
On Thursday 13 March 2003 10:58 am, Brian wrote:
 I guess I don't understand why you would choose one of these over the
 other.  I am familiar with VMWare, and that seems to make the most sense
 if you need to run a particular Windows (or other OS) application within
 Linux.  I know it is a virtual machine and will let you connect back to
 the primary host OS via the network and share ports.

 In the conversation about Win4Lin it sounded as if that worked in a very
 similar way.  I only know that Wine and Win4Lin are supposed to provide
 a way to run Windows applications within Linux, but I was wondering why
 you might choose one of these three particular products over another.

 I am probably going to invest in one of them (most likely VMWare) but i
 would like to understand the differences before I make a decision.

 Thanks,
 B


My use:

Win4Lin on my desktop Mdk box for Photoshop, Illustrator, and any other 
'heavyweight' application that does not work under Wine.

Wine on my laptop for a few applications that I need in the field that work in 
Wine.  These are mostly proprietary video playback apps used in security 
installations.  I test them first, copy a few DLL's if needed and go.  I 
choose not to put Win4Lin on my laptop to keep booting and program loading 
times to a minimum.

I have no experience with VMWare but if I needed anything other than Win98 on 
my desktop machine I would try it.

Brian



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Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs. Wine vs. VMWare

2003-03-13 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 13 March 2003 10:58 am, Brian wrote:
 I guess I don't understand why you would choose one of these over the
 other.  I am familiar with VMWare, and that seems to make the most sense
 if you need to run a particular Windows (or other OS) application within
 Linux.  I know it is a virtual machine and will let you connect back to
 the primary host OS via the network and share ports.

 In the conversation about Win4Lin it sounded as if that worked in a very
 similar way.  I only know that Wine and Win4Lin are supposed to provide
 a way to run Windows applications within Linux, but I was wondering why
 you might choose one of these three particular products over another.

 I am probably going to invest in one of them (most likely VMWare) but i
 would like to understand the differences before I make a decision.

 Thanks,
 B

Wine is a compatibility layer that allows one to run Windows programs in 
Linux.  Wine is free software and is not 100% compatible or functional at 
this point.  In other words, try it, but YMMV.

Win4Lin is a set of extensions that allows Windows itself to run as a Linux 
process.  Because of the way it is architected, it can only run the 9x/ME 
versions of Windows.  Cost is $79/user and can run in both local and terminal 
server   It also requires a kernel patch that enables the service.  
Netraverse provides pre-compiled kernels for most distros though and installs 
them automatically.

VMWare creates a virtual machine that allows you to run any guest operating 
system in a host OS.  Can run pretty much any OS on Linux or Windows and 
costs about $300.  VMware requires a specialized kernel module, but I do not 
believe that the kernel itself needs to be patched.

In my mind, the most cost effective sure thing is Win4Lin, assuming one does 
not have to run one of the NT flavors of Windows.  I believe that VMWare is 
really aimed at the developer market so that applications can be easily 
tested for compatibility on different Operating Systems.


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Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs. Wine vs. VMWare

2003-03-13 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 04:12, Greg Meyer wrote:

 In my mind, the most cost effective sure thing is Win4Lin, assuming one does 
 not have to run one of the NT flavors of Windows.  I believe that VMWare is 
 really aimed at the developer market so that applications can be easily 
 tested for compatibility on different Operating Systems.

I'd tend to say that for HOME users, Win4Lin might be an option worth
exploring - for me, however, especially being in the support/consulting
trade, I NEED to run VMWare as I support all OS's - so in working with
particular issues, or testing particular situations, it's better for me
to be able to actually run the REAL OS in a virtual machine - so cost is
made up by usage.

Rather nice to be able to run heaps of different OS's (or versions
thereof) - without rebooting. Running XP Pro in a 1280x1024 window
whilst running X in a 1600x1200 mode is really cool when people are
sitting around watching (grin).

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