Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 09 Dec 2002 4:49 am, Michael Adams wrote:
 On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 14:21, Erik Farnsworth wrote:
  Spence,
 
  Thanks!  Unless I totally hose my mdk system, I probably won't need this
  program because I boot XP only to use PageMaker (until I learn to use
  Lyx better) and to update the anti-virus .dat files.  [I did d/l
  explore2fs, just in case :) ]  However, I have a friend who could
  probably use it...so I'm passing on the info.
 
  On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 18:41, Spencer wrote:
   On December 8, 2002 04:24 pm, Erik Farnsworth wrote:
   If you have a need to read or write data from Winduz, there is a
   program called - explore2fs - that I use successfully on my W2K Pro
   install. I don't know if it can be used with a NTFS partition but it
   works well from FAT32.
  
   Spence

 Most recent Linux versions would default partition using one of the more
 modern Journaling File Systems. In this case anything 2fs may not work. On
 the other hand if the journaling system is 3fs? (is that the right
 abbreviation) it may work.

As I understand it, ext3 is simply ext2 + a journal, so I would think that 
would work.

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-13 Thread Spencer Anderson
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:08:15 +
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Monday 09 Dec 2002 4:49 am, Michael Adams wrote:
  On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 14:21, Erik Farnsworth wrote:
   Spence,
  
   Thanks!  Unless I totally hose my mdk system, I probably won't need this
   program because I boot XP only to use PageMaker (until I learn to use
   Lyx better) and to update the anti-virus .dat files.  [I did d/l
   explore2fs, just in case :) ]  However, I have a friend who could
   probably use it...so I'm passing on the info.
  
   On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 18:41, Spencer wrote:
On December 8, 2002 04:24 pm, Erik Farnsworth wrote:
If you have a need to read or write data from Winduz, there is a
program called - explore2fs - that I use successfully on my W2K Pro
install. I don't know if it can be used with a NTFS partition but it
works well from FAT32.
   
Spence
 
  Most recent Linux versions would default partition using one of the more
  modern Journaling File Systems. In this case anything 2fs may not work. On
  the other hand if the journaling system is 3fs? (is that the right
  abbreviation) it may work.
 
 As I understand it, ext3 is simply ext2 + a journal, so I would think that 
 would work.
 
 Anne
 
It works very well with ext3

Spence 


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Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-09 Thread David Robertson
On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 23:32, Dale Kosan wrote:
 Well, he states he can read the files so it is not NTFS. 

--snip--

With the appropriate kernel support, you can read a NTFS partition: its
just not a good idea to try to write to it (tho' I've never tried, I
must admit).

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Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-09 Thread Martin L. Johansen
On Monday 09 December 2002 15:50, David Robertson wrote:
 On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 23:32, Dale Kosan wrote:
  Well, he states he can read the files so it is not NTFS.

 --snip--

 With the appropriate kernel support, you can read a NTFS partition:
 its just not a good idea to try to write to it (tho' I've never
 tried, I must admit).

I've tried. Nothing else but cannot write as it's readonly.

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Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-09 Thread Francisco Alcaraz Ariza
One time I had problems to write windows FAT32 partitions because the 
partition had problems; I had to do an scandisk from windows, errors were 
repaired and again I could be able to write the windows partition from linux.

Have you passed and scandisk from windows?

Hope this could help


El Lun 09 Dic 2002 16:11, Martin L. Johansen escribió:
 On Monday 09 December 2002 15:50, David Robertson wrote:
  On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 23:32, Dale Kosan wrote:
   Well, he states he can read the files so it is not NTFS.
 
  --snip--
 
  With the appropriate kernel support, you can read a NTFS partition:
  its just not a good idea to try to write to it (tho' I've never
  tried, I must admit).

 I've tried. Nothing else but cannot write as it's readonly.

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Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-09 Thread Martin L. Johansen
On Monday 09 December 2002 16:19, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote:
 One time I had problems to write windows FAT32 partitions because the
 partition had problems; I had to do an scandisk from windows, errors
 were repaired and again I could be able to write the windows
 partition from linux.

 Have you passed and scandisk from windows?

 Hope this could help

It's still NTFS, so scandisk wont help a bit :-) But you're right, if an 
error persists on a FAT32 part, then scandisk must be run.

But regarding NTFS, it's simply not possible/allowed at all to write. 
Only read.

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Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-09 Thread FemmeFatale
At 04:31 PM 12/9/2002 +0100, you wrote:

On Monday 09 December 2002 16:19, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote:
 One time I had problems to write windows FAT32 partitions because the
 partition had problems; I had to do an scandisk from windows, errors
 were repaired and again I could be able to write the windows
 partition from linux.

 Have you passed and scandisk from windows?

 Hope this could help

It's still NTFS, so scandisk wont help a bit :-) But you're right, if an
error persists on a FAT32 part, then scandisk must be run.

But regarding NTFS, it's simply not possible/allowed at all to write.
Only read.



Perfectly possible to write ... there is a module/rpm in existence IIRC 
that allows this.  Ed Tharp or Civilme pointed it out once.  Now, do you 
want to ?  That depends... how much do you value your data?  It is 
extremely experimental ATM.

so beware

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Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-09 Thread Martin L. Johansen
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 01:35, FemmeFatale wrote:

 Perfectly possible to write ... there is a module/rpm in existence
 IIRC that allows this.  Ed Tharp or Civilme pointed it out once. 

Hmm, I was not aware of that.

 Now, do you want to ?  That depends... how much do you value your
 data?  It is extremely experimental ATM.

Nah, if it's a risk I'll not. I have no need to do so, as my NTFS-drive 
is where Win2k is installed, and the other FAT32 drive is where I share 
files between Windows and Linux.

 so beware

I will.

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[newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-08 Thread Tom Henry

I've installed ML 9.0 onto (Dell GX1 desktop system) it's own EXT2 partition

From Linux  I am able to read the files on the /windows/ partition  _but_ 
cannot edit anything ;-(

How do I get it set up so I have 'write' permission to everything on the 
/windows/ partition?

Many thanks for any help you can provide,
Tom


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Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 07:08, Tom Henry wrote:
 I've installed ML 9.0 onto (Dell GX1 desktop system) it's own EXT2 partition
 
  From Linux  I am able to read the files on the /windows/ partition  _but_ 
 cannot edit anything ;-(
 
 How do I get it set up so I have 'write' permission to everything on the 
 /windows/ partition?
 
 Many thanks for any help you can provide,
 Tom

Assuming you're accessing everything Windows via /mnt/win_c - you
can't edit ANYTHING at all? What version of Windows were you running?
Because if you were running anything NT based with NTFS, you're not
going to be able to - but if you're running under FAT or VFAT, you can
edit/save/modify anything - just that the executable bit is set on all
files...but that's generally not a hassle...

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Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-08 Thread Dale Kosan
Well, he states he can read the files so it is not NTFS. Root should be 
able to read and write, to do this as a user you need to edit the 
/etc/fstab entry. Can not help with that because I do not have Windows 
on my machine.

man mount for details.

The option, from memory, is umask=0.
Or you could use user=nnn,umask=002 if you are the only one going to write
to it.
Or mess about with group ownership and permissions if you want more
complicated control of access.



Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 07:08, Tom Henry wrote:


I've installed ML 9.0 onto (Dell GX1 desktop system) it's own EXT2 partition

From Linux  I am able to read the files on the /windows/ partition  _but_ 
cannot edit anything ;-(

How do I get it set up so I have 'write' permission to everything on the 
/windows/ partition?

Many thanks for any help you can provide,
Tom


Assuming you're accessing everything Windows via /mnt/win_c - you
can't edit ANYTHING at all? What version of Windows were you running?
Because if you were running anything NT based with NTFS, you're not
going to be able to - but if you're running under FAT or VFAT, you can
edit/save/modify anything - just that the executable bit is set on all
files...but that's generally not a hassle...





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Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-08 Thread Erik Farnsworth
Stephen was correct...from mdk, you can read files on an NTFS system
(XP, in my case), but you cannot write to them.  On the 'doz partition
that I want to share between mdk and xp, I have set it as vfat (FAT32)
and can read/write to it quite well with mdk.

[OTOH, 'Doz don't speaka-da-*nix, so it has no idea that mdk is also on
the same box. vbg]


On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 17:32, Dale Kosan wrote:
 Well, he states he can read the files so it is not NTFS. Root should be 
 able to read and write, to do this as a user you need to edit the 
 /etc/fstab entry. Can not help with that because I do not have Windows 
 on my machine.
 
 man mount for details.
 
 The option, from memory, is umask=0.
 Or you could use user=nnn,umask=002 if you are the only one going to write
 to it.
 Or mess about with group ownership and permissions if you want more
 complicated control of access.
 
 
 
 Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 07:08, Tom Henry wrote:
  
 I've installed ML 9.0 onto (Dell GX1 desktop system) it's own EXT2 partition
 
  From Linux  I am able to read the files on the /windows/ partition  _but_ 
 cannot edit anything ;-(
 
 How do I get it set up so I have 'write' permission to everything on the 
 /windows/ partition?
 
 Many thanks for any help you can provide,
 Tom
  
  
  Assuming you're accessing everything Windows via /mnt/win_c - you
  can't edit ANYTHING at all? What version of Windows were you running?
  Because if you were running anything NT based with NTFS, you're not
  going to be able to - but if you're running under FAT or VFAT, you can
  edit/save/modify anything - just that the executable bit is set on all
  files...but that's generally not a hassle...
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-08 Thread Spencer
On December 8, 2002 04:24 pm, Erik Farnsworth wrote:
If you have a need to read or write data from Winduz, there is a program 
called - explore2fs - that I use successfully on my W2K Pro install. I don't 
know if it can be used with a NTFS partition but it works well from FAT32.

Spence

 Stephen was correct...from mdk, you can read files on an NTFS system
 (XP, in my case), but you cannot write to them.  On the 'doz partition
 that I want to share between mdk and xp, I have set it as vfat (FAT32)
 and can read/write to it quite well with mdk.

 [OTOH, 'Doz don't speaka-da-*nix, so it has no idea that mdk is also on
 the same box. vbg]

 On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 17:32, Dale Kosan wrote:
  Well, he states he can read the files so it is not NTFS. Root should be
  able to read and write, to do this as a user you need to edit the
  /etc/fstab entry. Can not help with that because I do not have Windows
  on my machine.
 
  man mount for details.
 
  The option, from memory, is umask=0.
  Or you could use user=nnn,umask=002 if you are the only one going to
  write to it.
  Or mess about with group ownership and permissions if you want more
  complicated control of access.
 
  Stephen Kuhn wrote:
   On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 07:08, Tom Henry wrote:
  I've installed ML 9.0 onto (Dell GX1 desktop system) it's own EXT2
   partition
  
   From Linux  I am able to read the files on the /windows/ partition 
   _but_ cannot edit anything ;-(
  
  How do I get it set up so I have 'write' permission to everything on
   the /windows/ partition?
  
  Many thanks for any help you can provide,
  Tom
  
   Assuming you're accessing everything Windows via /mnt/win_c - you
   can't edit ANYTHING at all? What version of Windows were you running?
   Because if you were running anything NT based with NTFS, you're not
   going to be able to - but if you're running under FAT or VFAT, you can
   edit/save/modify anything - just that the executable bit is set on all
   files...but that's generally not a hassle...
  
  
  
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  -
  
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Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-08 Thread Erik Farnsworth
Spence,

Thanks!  Unless I totally hose my mdk system, I probably won't need this
program because I boot XP only to use PageMaker (until I learn to use
Lyx better) and to update the anti-virus .dat files.  [I did d/l
explore2fs, just in case :) ]  However, I have a friend who could
probably use it...so I'm passing on the info.

On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 18:41, Spencer wrote:
 On December 8, 2002 04:24 pm, Erik Farnsworth wrote:
 If you have a need to read or write data from Winduz, there is a program 
 called - explore2fs - that I use successfully on my W2K Pro install. I don't 
 know if it can be used with a NTFS partition but it works well from FAT32.
 
 Spence

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Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?

2002-12-08 Thread Michael Adams
On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 14:21, Erik Farnsworth wrote:
 Spence,

 Thanks!  Unless I totally hose my mdk system, I probably won't need this
 program because I boot XP only to use PageMaker (until I learn to use
 Lyx better) and to update the anti-virus .dat files.  [I did d/l
 explore2fs, just in case :) ]  However, I have a friend who could
 probably use it...so I'm passing on the info.

 On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 18:41, Spencer wrote:
  On December 8, 2002 04:24 pm, Erik Farnsworth wrote:
  If you have a need to read or write data from Winduz, there is a program
  called - explore2fs - that I use successfully on my W2K Pro install. I
  don't know if it can be used with a NTFS partition but it works well from
  FAT32.
 
  Spence

Most recent Linux versions would default partition using one of the more 
modern Journaling File Systems. In this case anything 2fs may not work. On 
the other hand if the journaling system is 3fs? (is that the right 
abbreviation) it may work.

-- 
Michael


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