Re: [newbie] XFree86-DRI

2004-05-23 Thread David E. Fox
On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:16:43 -0600
Ron Hunter-Duvar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I got Mahjongg 3D working. Unfortunately, I don't know exactly what I did to 
 get it working. I downloaded the 0.92 release from the author's web site (I 

Do you have a link? I figured it might be on sourceforge, so I checked,
and sure enough, it's there, but I could not get the CVS to work,
because I could not determine any module names to check out, and the
directions just say to co modulename.



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Re: [newbie] XFree86-DRI

2004-05-19 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
On May 11, 2004 10:35, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
 I'm trying to install the KDE game mahjongg 3D
 (http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12553PHPSESSID=23d79a4e78002
9a6433767155a41f066)
...
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] rhd]$ /opt/games/bin/mahjongg3d-hires
 Xlib:  extension XFree86-DRI missing on display :0.0.
 /opt/games/bin/mahjongg3d-hires: line 8: 23090 Illegal
 instruction ./mahjongg3d
...

I got Mahjongg 3D working. Unfortunately, I don't know exactly what I did to 
get it working. I downloaded the 0.92 release from the author's web site (I 
had the 0.90 release from KDE-Apps) and built as a regular user instead of 
root (there's a permissions problem in the install script. But I also made 
several upgrades in the interim (Mdk10 installs ancient versions of autoconf, 
automake, etc. by default, and another program wouldn't build until I 
upgraded).

My ancient graphics card does support 3D, via the Mesa 3D glx package. It just 
doesn't support DRI (or more specifically, doesn't have a driver available 
for it that supports DRI).

Turns out the DRI missing msg is just a warning, it has nothing to do with 
the actual problem (the illegal instruction). I get it with any OpenGL 
program I start from the command line (e.g. glxgears), but the program runs 
fine anyway, just not accelerated.

I'd like to know how to get rid of this message if possible (before you ask, 
no, my X86Config-4 does not have a 'load dri' line in it). It's harmless 
but annoying. Any ideas welcome, but it's not a priority.

BTW, it's a great game if you like solitaire games. Check it out.

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Re: [newbie] XFree86-DRI

2004-05-13 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
On May 11, 2004 15:54, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Tuesday 11 May 2004 23:33, JoeHill wrote:
  On Tue, 11 May 2004 10:35:45 -0600
 
  Ron Hunter-Duvar disseminated the following:
   Does this mean I'm out of luck, that there's just no way to make this
   game work? I understand the problem with vendors that won't release
   driver source. But what good is a graphics technology that excludes the
   number 1 graphics card manufacturer?
 
  Unless I'm completely misreading your post, can't you just download the
  Nvidia drivers from the Nvidia site and install those?

 No, he can't because it isn't actually a nvidia product...it's
 *,Thompson IIRC and just uses their (nvidia) chips. It works fine using
 the nv driver and 2D..and that's it! No 3D etc.

 Good luck,
 HarM

Yeah, MCC hardware detection lists the vendor as NVidia / SGS Thomson. 
XF86Config-4 says I'm using the nv driver. This is what Mandrake install set 
up, I haven't tried any different drivers.

I saw another email about someone whose card didn't work with the nv driver, 
and someone recommended the nvidia driver instead. But it seems that my card 
is too ancient to be supported by their unified driver architecture. I 
didn't see anything suggesting that the nvidia driver supports DRI either.

So I guess I'm out of luck?

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Re: [newbie] XFree86-DRI

2004-05-11 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 11 May 2004 10:35:45 -0600
Ron Hunter-Duvar disseminated the following:

 Does this mean I'm out of luck, that there's just no way to make this game 
 work? I understand the problem with vendors that won't release driver source. 
 But what good is a graphics technology that excludes the number 1 graphics 
 card manufacturer?

Unless I'm completely misreading your post, can't you just download the Nvidia
drivers from the Nvidia site and install those?

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Re: [newbie] XFree86-DRI

2004-05-11 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 11 May 2004 23:33, JoeHill wrote:
 On Tue, 11 May 2004 10:35:45 -0600

 Ron Hunter-Duvar disseminated the following:
  Does this mean I'm out of luck, that there's just no way to make this
  game work? I understand the problem with vendors that won't release
  driver source. But what good is a graphics technology that excludes the
  number 1 graphics card manufacturer?

 Unless I'm completely misreading your post, can't you just download the
 Nvidia drivers from the Nvidia site and install those?

No, he can't because it isn't actually a nvidia product...it's *,Thompson 
IIRC and just uses their (nvidia) chips. It works fine using the nv driver 
and 2D..and that's it! No 3D etc.

Good luck,
HarM



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[newbie] XFree86-DRI

2004-05-11 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
I'm trying to install the KDE game mahjongg 3D 
(http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12553PHPSESSID=23d79a4e780029a6433767155a41f066)

As root, I downloaded and extracted the tarball (mahjongg3d.tar.bz2). Then I 
did:

make PREFIX=/opt/games
make PREFIX=/opt/games install

The build produced a number of harmless looking warnings (unused parameters 
and such), but seems to have run successfully. The install appears to have 
been successful as well. But when I run the game, I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rhd]$ /opt/games/bin/mahjongg3d-hires
Xlib:  extension XFree86-DRI missing on display :0.0.
/opt/games/bin/mahjongg3d-hires: line 8: 23090 Illegal 
instruction ./mahjongg3d

I had no idea what XFree86-DRI was so I started investigating. There was a 
previous email on this list with the same error, but for a completely 
different video card, and the links provided didn't seem to help me at all. I 
have an nVidia Riva128.

I found the sourceforge site for DRI, but it says that nVidia cards are not 
supported because the drivers are all closed source 
(http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/nVidia?action=highlightvalue=CategoryHardware).
 

Does this mean I'm out of luck, that there's just no way to make this game 
work? I understand the problem with vendors that won't release driver source. 
But what good is a graphics technology that excludes the number 1 graphics 
card manufacturer?

Funny thing is the game README makes no mention of DRI being required. It only 
says that OpenGL and qt-devel are required.

This is certainly not a show-stopper for me, but if anyone can provide any 
pointers (short of writing my own driver :^), I'd appreciate it.

It's funny, I read criticisms of Linux and FOSS that a mostly volunteer effort 
can never keep up with the innovations of a well funded corporation. Yet it 
seems to me that the biggest problem is the rapid turn-over in technologies 
that makes it so hard to keep up! I see the OSS to ALSA migration, the 2.4 to 
2.6 kernel issues, this DRI graphics technology, and so on. Everything seems 
to be in a constant state of transition. Oh well, keeps it interesting!

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