[newbie] anacron problem

2003-08-20 Thread L.V.Gandhi
When I start PC for the day, I get
Aug 20 04:21:10 lvghomepc anacron[1423]: Job `cron.daily' terminated (exit 
status: 1) (mailing output)
but I couldn't see any error log in /var/log/cron or mail in /var/log/mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] cron]# l
total 10
drwxr-xr-x2 root root  120 Aug 19 02:51 ./
drwxr-xr-x   13 root root 1128 Aug 20 19:11 ../
-rw-r-1 root root0 Aug 19 02:51 errors
-rw-r-1 root root 4431 Aug 20 19:12 info
-rw-r-1 root root0 Aug 19 02:51 warnings
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# l
total 2
drwxr-xr-x2 root root  120 Aug 19 02:51 ./
drwxr-xr-x   13 root root 1128 Aug 20 19:11 ../
-rw-r-1 root root0 Aug 19 02:51 errors
-rw-r-1 root root0 Aug 19 02:51 info
-rw-r-1 root root0 Aug 19 02:51 warnings
But I get a message while halting saying pid of anacron doesn't exist.
How to avoid these?
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Re: [newbie] anacron problem

2003-08-20 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 20 Aug 2003 2:51 pm, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
 When I start PC for the day, I get
 Aug 20 04:21:10 lvghomepc anacron[1423]: Job `cron.daily' terminated (exit
 status: 1) (mailing output)
 but I couldn't see any error log in /var/log/cron or mail in /var/log/mail
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] cron]# l
 total 10
 drwxr-xr-x2 root root  120 Aug 19 02:51 ./
 drwxr-xr-x   13 root root 1128 Aug 20 19:11 ../
 -rw-r-1 root root0 Aug 19 02:51 errors
 -rw-r-1 root root 4431 Aug 20 19:12 info
 -rw-r-1 root root0 Aug 19 02:51 warnings
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# l
 total 2
 drwxr-xr-x2 root root  120 Aug 19 02:51 ./
 drwxr-xr-x   13 root root 1128 Aug 20 19:11 ../
 -rw-r-1 root root0 Aug 19 02:51 errors
 -rw-r-1 root root0 Aug 19 02:51 info
 -rw-r-1 root root0 Aug 19 02:51 warnings
 But I get a message while halting saying pid of anacron doesn't exist.
 How to avoid these?

have you looked in /var/log/syslog ?
Also AFAIK anacron will mail to root, so enter 'mail' to read it. (If you are 
running a Postfix mail server you should have root's mail redirected to a 
user account)

HTH

derek
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Re: [newbie] anacron

2002-11-05 Thread Derek Jennings
If you stop anacron/cron then your system will not be able to perform 
essential maintenance.
Your log files will fill up up to infinity, your temporary files will not be 
erased, and your system will not perform any security checks.

What is the problem with having it running?

derek

On Tuesday 05 Nov 2002 7:20 am, Noah Hicks wrote:
 I need to know how to get anacron to stop running as often as it seems to
 be. I have found the task file in the /etc dir but I can't see how to
 modify it and the man page is hard for me to understand.  Could anyone tell
 me how to do this?  Unless there is some task I need it to do, I would like
 to get it to cease completely.  Can I just remove the cron.daily and
 cron.weekly files? This is what I have now:

 [noahlocalhost etc]$ cat anacrontab
 # /etc/anacrontab: configuration file for anacron

 # See anacron(8) and anacrontab(5) for details.

 SHELL=/bin/sh
 PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin

 # These entries are useful for a Mandrake system.
 1   5   cron.daily  run-parts /etc/cron.daily
 7   10  cron.weekly run-parts /etc/cron.weekly
 30  15  cron.monthlyrun-parts /etc/cron.monthly



 Thanks
 Noah



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Re: [newbie] anacron

2002-11-05 Thread Derek Jennings
You can see the daily jobs in /etc/cron.daily

Whenever you install an RPM which needs 'maintenance' a file gets dropped in 
here for the daily processing.

For example logrotate  will compress your old logs and delete the oldest 
entries. It will cause a bit of hard drive activity, but not a vast amount 
(unless you have big logs)

The weekly job slocate.cron will cause a lot of harddrive activity, because it 
compiles a database of every file on your hard drive for use by the slocate 
command. (If you have it installed)

The daily msec job is checking on the file permissions of all your system 
files, so that could cause a bit of activity.


If you find the daily job annoying, why not set it to run at a more convenient 
time?
It is only a matter of editing the /etc/crontab file.
For instance in this line

56 10 * * * root nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.daily

All the scripts in location /etc/cron.daily are scheduled to run at 10:56 
every day

If you want a nice GUI to setup cron jobs, then there is one in webmin.


derek


On Tuesday 05 Nov 2002 6:15 pm, Noah Hicks wrote:
 Well the only problem I'm having is that when it's running, it slows the
 system down.  There's a lot of HD activity and the programs I'm running
 slow down significatly.  This can last for a good 3-4 min.  I find it kind
 of irritating.  Seems like it only does it once a day though.  I'm just
 running a laptop for webbrowsing, word processing and data analysis with a
 few simple console apps.  How high do my security settings need to be?

 Thanks for helping me figure this out
 -Noah

 BTW is there something wrong with the list server?  I got your reply but I
 didn't get my own message.

 On Tuesday 05 November 2002 11:24, Derek Jennings wrote:
  If you stop anacron/cron then your system will not be able to perform
  essential maintenance.
  Your log files will fill up up to infinity, your temporary files will not
  be erased, and your system will not perform any security checks.
 
  What is the problem with having it running?
 
  derek
 
  On Tuesday 05 Nov 2002 7:20 am, Noah Hicks wrote:
   I need to know how to get anacron to stop running as often as it seems
   to be. I have found the task file in the /etc dir but I can't see how
   to modify it and the man page is hard for me to understand.  Could
   anyone tell me how to do this?  Unless there is some task I need it to
   do, I would like to get it to cease completely.  Can I just remove the
   cron.daily and cron.weekly files? This is what I have now:
  
   [noahlocalhost etc]$ cat anacrontab
   # /etc/anacrontab: configuration file for anacron
  
   # See anacron(8) and anacrontab(5) for details.
  
   SHELL=/bin/sh
   PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
  
   # These entries are useful for a Mandrake system.
   1   5   cron.daily  run-parts /etc/cron.daily
   7   10  cron.weekly run-parts /etc/cron.weekly
   30  15  cron.monthlyrun-parts /etc/cron.monthly
  
  
  
   Thanks
   Noah



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Re: [newbie] anacron

2002-11-05 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 05:15, Noah Hicks wrote:
 
 Well the only problem I'm having is that when it's running, it slows the 
 system down.  There's a lot of HD activity and the programs I'm running slow 
 down significatly.  This can last for a good 3-4 min.  I find it kind of 
 irritating.  Seems like it only does it once a day though.  I'm just running 
 a laptop for webbrowsing, word processing and data analysis with a few simple 
 console apps.  How high do my security settings need to be?
 
 Thanks for helping me figure this out
 -Noah

Sounds like it could be updatedb or maybe tripwire running in the
background? When updatedb runs, there is quite a bit of disk activity,
and the larger the disks, the more the activity...

When it happens, why not open up a term and type ps -Ae and see what's
the last in the PID list...that might start to point to the villian...

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Re: [newbie] anacron

2002-11-05 Thread Noah Hicks
Ok thanks Derek, that helps my understanding alot.  I got that line in 
crontab.  It shouldn't be as much of a problem.  I wonder if anyone could 
make this program run in smaller parts over the course of a whole day.  
Wouldn't that make it much more inconspicuous on the system?
oh well thanks for the tips
-Noah

On Tuesday 05 November 2002 14:16, Derek Jennings wrote:
 You can see the daily jobs in /etc/cron.daily

 Whenever you install an RPM which needs 'maintenance' a file gets dropped
 in here for the daily processing.

 For example logrotate  will compress your old logs and delete the oldest
 entries. It will cause a bit of hard drive activity, but not a vast amount
 (unless you have big logs)

 The weekly job slocate.cron will cause a lot of harddrive activity, because
 it compiles a database of every file on your hard drive for use by the
 slocate command. (If you have it installed)

 The daily msec job is checking on the file permissions of all your system
 files, so that could cause a bit of activity.


 If you find the daily job annoying, why not set it to run at a more
 convenient time?
 It is only a matter of editing the /etc/crontab file.
 For instance in this line

 56 10 * * * root nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.daily

 All the scripts in location /etc/cron.daily are scheduled to run at 10:56
 every day

 If you want a nice GUI to setup cron jobs, then there is one in webmin.


 derek

 On Tuesday 05 Nov 2002 6:15 pm, Noah Hicks wrote:
  Well the only problem I'm having is that when it's running, it slows the
  system down.  There's a lot of HD activity and the programs I'm running
  slow down significatly.  This can last for a good 3-4 min.  I find it
  kind of irritating.  Seems like it only does it once a day though.  I'm
  just running a laptop for webbrowsing, word processing and data analysis
  with a few simple console apps.  How high do my security settings need to
  be?
 
  Thanks for helping me figure this out
  -Noah
 
  BTW is there something wrong with the list server?  I got your reply but
  I didn't get my own message.
 
  On Tuesday 05 November 2002 11:24, Derek Jennings wrote:
   If you stop anacron/cron then your system will not be able to perform
   essential maintenance.
   Your log files will fill up up to infinity, your temporary files will
   not be erased, and your system will not perform any security checks.
  
   What is the problem with having it running?
  
   derek
  
   On Tuesday 05 Nov 2002 7:20 am, Noah Hicks wrote:
I need to know how to get anacron to stop running as often as it
seems to be. I have found the task file in the /etc dir but I can't
see how to modify it and the man page is hard for me to understand. 
Could anyone tell me how to do this?  Unless there is some task I
need it to do, I would like to get it to cease completely.  Can I
just remove the cron.daily and cron.weekly files? This is what I have
now:
   
[noahlocalhost etc]$ cat anacrontab
# /etc/anacrontab: configuration file for anacron
   
# See anacron(8) and anacrontab(5) for details.
   
SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
   
# These entries are useful for a Mandrake system.
1   5   cron.daily  run-parts /etc/cron.daily
7   10  cron.weekly run-parts /etc/cron.weekly
30  15  cron.monthlyrun-parts /etc/cron.monthly
   
   
   
Thanks
Noah



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[newbie] anacron: is this error critical

2002-08-02 Thread Stormjumper

i tried to run this command from bash
service -s
and the first line gave me this error on anacron

anacron dead but subsys locked

is this harmless?
or is there something i should do about it?

thanks



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