Re: [newbie] avi to svcd programs?

2004-02-26 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 19:44:51 -0800
David E. Fox disseminated the following:

  I haven't used mencvcd but when I make VCD's using transcode I end up
  with 2 files, one video -.mpv, and one audio -.mp2, the next step for
  me is to 
 
 Could you post a sample transcode line?
 
 Once in a while I have problems with mencvcd so I'm looking for other
 things to try. Last one I did was 'The Siege and following your hint I
 tried mplex and eventually got something I could split up to two CDs.
 After burning both images I was surprised that my set top DVD player
 recognized them (VCD 1.1 format). It's a low end Koss, and isn't really
 supposed to be able to play VCDs. (With VCD 2.0, I hear audio only and a
 badly rolling BW picture).
 
 I have one that I burned to AVI simply because there were problems
 reading the stream with mencvcd (maybe it's cooker, not sure why, or
 maybe it's the DVD). I will continue to experiment, though.
 
 DVD:Rip IMHO is too much although it does do a good job, it has so many
 processes running in the background and takes nearly 18 hours to do one
 DVD on my 1000 mhz Athlon. I can mencoder one to an AVI in about 1/2
 that time.
 
 avisplit is a good tool to split AVIs. I don't recall what I used
 presently to split the resulting VCD image into CD-sizes - it might have
 been vcdimager. The one problem I experienced in the last VCD I did (and
 so far the only one) is an increasing lack of synchronization (it's
 subtle, but it is a noticeable delay, and of course it is disconcerting
 to hear the audio and one or two seconds later see the mouth move).
 
 How do you (or others) take care of the synchronization problem?

I would recommend joining the mjpegtools mailing list (or at least browsing the
archive), there are some people on there who are magicians with this stuff. I've
never actually tried to rip a DVD, so I don't have much info on that. As far as
synchronization, I do know with mencvcd that you sometimes have to set the video
frame rate like so:

mencvcd outputfilename -svcdout -tvnorm n -vfr 1 -a aspect inputfilename

That sets the framerate to the standard 24:1001, which has always, with one
exception, been dead on.

Oh, and count yourself lucky, on my poor old P3 866 it takes well over 24 hours
to encode an SVCD of a live action movie, and that's *per CD*, so more than two
days for the full movie. That's why I mostly just do animated stuff for my
daughter to watch on the DVD player. 'A Bugs Life' should be finishing up in
just about an hour ;-)

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Re: [newbie] avi to svcd programs?

2004-02-26 Thread John Richard Smith
David E. Fox wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:21:59 +
Peter Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

I haven't used mencvcd but when I make VCD's using transcode I end up
with 2 files, one video -.mpv, and one audio -.mp2, the next step for
me is to 
   

Could you post a sample transcode line?

Once in a while I have problems with mencvcd so I'm looking for other
things to try. Last one I did was 'The Siege and following your hint I
tried mplex and eventually got something I could split up to two CDs.
After burning both images I was surprised that my set top DVD player
recognized them (VCD 1.1 format). It's a low end Koss, and isn't really
supposed to be able to play VCDs. (With VCD 2.0, I hear audio only and a
badly rolling BW picture).
I have one that I burned to AVI simply because there were problems
reading the stream with mencvcd (maybe it's cooker, not sure why, or
maybe it's the DVD). I will continue to experiment, though.
DVD:Rip IMHO is too much although it does do a good job, it has so many
processes running in the background and takes nearly 18 hours to do one
DVD on my 1000 mhz Athlon. I can mencoder one to an AVI in about 1/2
that time.
avisplit is a good tool to split AVIs. I don't recall what I used
presently to split the resulting VCD image into CD-sizes - it might have
been vcdimager. The one problem I experienced in the last VCD I did (and
so far the only one) is an increasing lack of synchronization (it's
subtle, but it is a noticeable delay, and of course it is disconcerting
to hear the audio and one or two seconds later see the mouth move).
How do you (or others) take care of the synchronization problem?
 

Best place to ask,

http://lists.exit1.org/mailman/listinfo/transcode-users
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Re: [newbie] avi to svcd programs?

2004-01-29 Thread Peter Watson
On Thursday 29 Jan 2004 5:53 am, David E. Fox wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:31:48 -0800

 David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I found mencvcd, just trying it now with a DVD. A couple fits 
  starts, but we'll see what the results give.

 Following up on my own post (/slap):

 Well, I experimented a few times with that mencvcd script, found a few
 options that worked, and ended up with 2 files in /tmp: one's a mpa and
 the other one is an mpv file. 'file' says one is mpeg 2 audio (MP2,
 224k) and the other one is an mpeg video stream.

 So far, that's probably what I want, right, for VCD encode?

 Seems like the next step is to take those two files and make a disk
 image (or two, as they both are larger than a single CD). What's my next
 step -- is this something that vcd imager or k3b is going to be able to
 do ... i.e., split the files up into cd-sized chunks, write out the
 right directory structure including a DAT file for the movie? (That's
 what I see when I mount some VCDs that my brother did in Windows).

David

I haven't used mencvcd but when I make VCD's using transcode I end up with 2 
files, one video -.mpv, and one audio -.mp2, the next step for me is to 
multiplex them into one mpg file using mplex. After that I use vcdimager to 
create the right structure and cdrdao to burn. Maybe you need to multiplex 
your files next.

If you want to cut files up into smaller chunks I would suggest you look at 
mpgtx, this is what I use. In the past I have had good results with avidemux, 
but for me it seems flaky under 9.2 


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Re: [newbie] avi to svcd programs?

2004-01-28 Thread David E. Fox
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:31:48 -0800
David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I found mencvcd, just trying it now with a DVD. A couple fits 
 starts, but we'll see what the results give. 

Following up on my own post (/slap):

Well, I experimented a few times with that mencvcd script, found a few
options that worked, and ended up with 2 files in /tmp: one's a mpa and
the other one is an mpv file. 'file' says one is mpeg 2 audio (MP2,
224k) and the other one is an mpeg video stream.

So far, that's probably what I want, right, for VCD encode?

Seems like the next step is to take those two files and make a disk
image (or two, as they both are larger than a single CD). What's my next
step -- is this something that vcd imager or k3b is going to be able to
do ... i.e., split the files up into cd-sized chunks, write out the
right directory structure including a DAT file for the movie? (That's
what I see when I mount some VCDs that my brother did in Windows).




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Re: [newbie] avi to svcd programs?

2004-01-26 Thread David E. Fox
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:40:51 +0200
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Transcode is the best (about the only one) but it ain't easy.

You've just been awarded the Understatement of the Year award. :)

It's more complicated it seems than mencoder. But once you find a stanza
that works, you can put it in a script or an alias. But it taks
experimenting, and many hours (unless you just encode a small number of
frames). It's tough to sit for 5 or more hours to find that you ended up
forgetting to encode the audio :( twice :( :( and you've been successful
doing it with other DVDs.

Of course, you can use a graphical wrapper (gtranscode / gmencoder).
Sometimes I use DVD:Rip, but I think that's doing more work than needed
to get acceptable quality. It's also slower. If you look, you discover
that there are usually 10 instances of transcode and helper things
(tccat) running during a DVD:rip. That seems too complicated IMHO.

I found mencvcd, just trying it now with a DVD. A couple fits  starts,
but we'll see what the results give. 

 There are also  Mandrake rpm available (are they on the cd's?).

Probably you want them off a plf mirror.
 
 Paul M
 
 
 


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Re: [newbie] avi to svcd programs?

2004-01-25 Thread Paul
On Sun, 2004-01-25 at 18:06, Søren Neigaard wrote:
 Hi
 
 I'm new in using Linux on my workstation (have used it as server
 before), and I'm trying to find Linux versions of all the Windoze SW I
 used to use. The only thing I have left to find, is a program that can
 convert my DivX avi files to svcd files, and also include the subtitles
 onto the svcd.
 
 Can any of you guys recommend what is the best (and maybe easiest)
 program for this please?
 
 Best regards
 Søren
 
 

Transcode is the best (about the only one) but it ain't easy.

take a look at 
http://www.theorie.physik.uni-goettingen.de/~ostreich/transcode/

There are also  Mandrake rpm available (are they on the cd's?).

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Re: [newbie] avi to svcd programs?

2004-01-25 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:06:19 +0100
Søren Neigaard disseminated the following:

 I'm new in using Linux on my workstation (have used it as server
 before), and I'm trying to find Linux versions of all the Windoze SW I
 used to use. The only thing I have left to find, is a program that can
 convert my DivX avi files to svcd files, and also include the subtitles
 onto the svcd.
 
 Can any of you guys recommend what is the best (and maybe easiest)
 program for this please?

What I use is a script called 'mencvcd', I can't find the link to it right now,
the site I got it from appears to be down.

It's a pretty simple script that relies on MPlayer, Transcode, MJpegTools, and a
few others, so:

urpmi mplayer mjpegtools transcode

I'll send you the script offlist, just put it in ~/bin, then in a term run
'mencvcd' to get all the various options.

Try this link later on, it seems to go up and down. It'll give you more info
on what software you'll need. Read the posts in the forums for tons of info on
various scripts and methods.

http://dvdripping-guid.berlios.de/Divx-to-VCD_en.html

If it doesn't come back up, your best bet to find how-to's is to go to
google.com/linux, and put in divx to svcd (with the quotes) as your search
terms.

In any case, if the subtitles are in the DivX file, they would undoubtedly be
preserved in any conversion, since they have been made part of the video stream,
as opposed to on a DVD. However, mencvcd will also rip DVD's to SVCD and *then*
there are options for preserving the subtitles etc., IIRC.

***BTW, please get rid of your 'reply-to' setting, at least for the list.
Thanks.***

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