[newbie] eh?

2001-02-19 Thread Nick

I must confess to being an absolute 'newbie' on Linux. I have managed to
install lm7.2 correctly. all my devices see to be working ok except my usb
deskjet895cxi printer which i'm not too fussed about yet. what i am
desperate for though, is to install a '98 emulator to continue using
office2000 (sorry guys, but i really do need to use it!). i've tried the
'wine' thing using the rpm manager in knome but the damn thing still doesn't
appear in my program list. I really would like to use the vmware or whatever
it's called but don't know where to start. i need a real idiots guide to
downloading/installing, etc taking me right from switching on my pc to
switching it off! I'm pretty much a whizz on '98 / win2k, etc but Linux is
killing me. I was born and raised of DOS3.21 and i'm really struggling.
help!

p.s, while i'm on the subject. what's the best e-mail client currently. i'm
after something similar to oe5 but without the vb / java script support
crap!




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Re: [newbie] eh?

2001-02-19 Thread Andrew Lazarewicz

** Reply to message from Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 19 Feb 2001
12:47:59 -

Welcome to the club!  I can help with the Windows problem.  

Wine is an excellent tool that is in advanced development -- as I see it, the
folks working it are doing an excellent job, but it still needs work (see their
web site http://www.winehq.com). 

 Another alternative that uses a different approach is Win4Lin (see
http://www.netraverse.com) -- if you have a formal copy of Win 95/98, their
program will install it into your Linux filesystem -- essentially, you are
running the original Windows inside a Linux window (not an emulator).  Direct X
and DOS graphics mode aren't supported, so games are out, but business stuff
should work -- MS Office is known to work.  I'm still installing it into my
system, and have had some troubles with getting the right kernel in place
(explained below) and Windows OEM are a pain (as is most of Windows software by
definition), as you need a bootable disk as well (not a big deal, you just have
to know about it).  Reviews are very good, I haven't yet fully installed it, but
should be able to finish that today.  

About the kernel, Linux's guts is the Kernel, and Win4Lin has to patch it, so
the patch and your installed Kernel have to match.  Many are done quickly, and
the CD has patches, but mine was a pain to get right.  Fortunately, their e-mail
help is very good, and you can always write here too.

StarOffice, which is available free from sun (http://www.sun.com), and included
in many, if not all, packaged Linux systems is extremely compatible with MS
Office.  I haven't yet found anything that I needed to do in MS Office that I
can't do in Star Office -- take a look at this option as well.

Linux is far different and better than DOS/Windows, it is very stable, free,
grass-roots support, but it needs considerably more technical knowledge than
Windows.  However, you get out of it what you put into it.  It is aggravating at
times, but the people who work with it and help in places like this are
terrific!  You won't be orphaned -- keep going!

- Andy Lazarewicz




Re: [newbie] eh?

2001-02-19 Thread Michael Scottaline


Andrew Lazarewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ** Reply to message from Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 19 Feb 2001
 12:47:59 -
 
 Welcome to the club!  I can help with the Windows problem.  
Big Snip
 
 StarOffice, which is available free from sun (http://www.sun.com), and included
 in many, if not all, packaged Linux systems is extremely compatible with MS
 Office.  I haven't yet found anything that I needed to do in MS Office that I
 can't do in Star Office -- take a look at this option as well.
===
Good advice from Andy here.  If Office 2000 is your primary (or only) reason for 
wanting to emulate winblows, give StarOffice a try.  I've never (in about two years) 
had a problem importing or EXPORTING Word or Excel documents.  NONE!!  I've opened 55 
page Excel budget documents, with complex tables and formulae and voila!! just like 
home.  I haven't had as good luck with PowerPoint, but it does work for the most part. 
 Word and Excel have been damn near perfect.
Mike
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RE: [newbie] eh?

2001-02-19 Thread Franki

Wine can be configured from linuxconf,,, give that a go...

also, to use win4lin or vmware you will need to have windows running inside
linux,, so make sure you PC is fast and has enough ram (remember it will be
running 2 different OS's),,, otherwise I suggest you dual boot...

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I must confess to being an absolute 'newbie' on Linux. I have managed to
install lm7.2 correctly. all my devices see to be working ok except my usb
deskjet895cxi printer which i'm not too fussed about yet. what i am
desperate for though, is to install a '98 emulator to continue using
office2000 (sorry guys, but i really do need to use it!). i've tried the
'wine' thing using the rpm manager in knome but the damn thing still doesn't
appear in my program list. I really would like to use the vmware or whatever
it's called but don't know where to start. i need a real idiots guide to
downloading/installing, etc taking me right from switching on my pc to
switching it off! I'm pretty much a whizz on '98 / win2k, etc but Linux is
killing me. I was born and raised of DOS3.21 and i'm really struggling.
help!

p.s, while i'm on the subject. what's the best e-mail client currently. i'm
after something similar to oe5 but without the vb / java script support
crap!




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