Re: [newbie] licq awaymesg

2001-06-16 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

I have similar problems with GnomeICU. The problem is that AOL (ICQ's 
owners) like to keep their protocols private and closed-source. That 
means that any other project to create an ICQ client must 
reverse-engineer the protocol -- a very difficult and painstaking 
task. I know GnomeICU is fully compatible with all ICQ versions up to 
2000a. Of course, by the time the protocols for this were worked out 
by the developers and the new version released, AOL had released a new 
version of their official ICQ client, 2000b. This is a little game AOL 
likes to play to annoy other ICQ client developers, forever keeping 
them on the back foot. I find that when I talk to users of 2000b, I 
can't have a real-time chat, and I have to send all messages through 
the server -- in other words I can't establish a direct connection, 
just like your problem.

I have tried fiddling with firewall settings; this is not the problem. 
The problem lies with AOL and their stranglehold on the world instant 
messaging market.


On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 05:57, Magnus Stenemo wrote:
 Hello!

 When anybody tries to watch my away (and NA) msg the system replies
 can't establish a direct connection to user. All of my friends got
 the same reply so it has to be something to do with my computer.
 Can it have something to do with the tinyfirewall that is up and
 running? How do I turn it off??

 running LM 8.0 licq 1.0.3/SSL

 Please help!

 //Magnus

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
-- Jeremy S. Anderson




Re: [newbie] licq awaymesg

2001-06-16 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 07:00, Magnus Stenemo wrote:
  I have similar problems with GnomeICU. The problem is that AOL
  (ICQ's owners) like to keep their protocols private and
  closed-source. That means that any other project to create an ICQ
  client must reverse-engineer the protocol -- a very difficult and
  painstaking task. I know GnomeICU is fully compatible with all ICQ
  versions up to 2000a. Of course, by the time the protocols for
  this were worked out by the developers and the new version
  released, AOL had released a new version of their official ICQ
  client, 2000b. This is a little game AOL likes to play to annoy
  other ICQ client developers, forever keeping them on the back
  foot. I find that when I talk to users of 2000b, I can't have a
  real-time chat, and I have to send all messages through the server
  -- in other words I can't establish a direct connection, just like
  your problem.
 
  I have tried fiddling with firewall settings; this is not the
  problem. The problem lies with AOL and their stranglehold on the
  world instant messaging market.

 But it worked before I installed tinyfirewall... (it can be
 something else I installed, but I know that it has worked!
 //Magnus

ICQ has not been working well with GNU/Linux reverse-engineered 
clients for the past few weeks. I had very few problems until 
recently. I reckon AOL changed something server-side -- they've been 
known to do that every now and then. If that's the case then we'll 
just have to wait for the GNU/Linux clients to catch up, and hope that 
AOL don't change again...

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
-- Jeremy S. Anderson