Re: [newbie] msec and Bastille

2001-12-12 Thread Mark Weaver

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:20:15 -0500
Mark Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] frantically pecked out this message:

 So I've trying to bone up on all things security-related and was trying to
 figure out what relationship, if any, there was between Bastille and msec.
 Is msec a UI layer over Bastille or is it a separate security tool? Are the
 two complementary or exclusionary. Should I run both or pick just one?
 
 cheers,
 ::mark
 
 
 

mark,

this is directly from the man page for msec. it would appear that it's nothing more 
then just a small utility that you can directly change/modify the security level 
setting of your Mandrake OS letting the kernel know just how secure or not secure the 
system is to be...
== from the manpage ===
DESCRIPTION
   msec  is  the  main script of msec package. It enables the system
   administrator to change the security level for that system.  msec
   is  provided with six preconfigured security levels. These levels
   range from poor security and ease of  use,  to  paranoid  config,
   suitable  for  very  sensitive  server  applications,  managed by
   experts.

   You must be root to run msec .
   Launch msec x to set you security level to x  (x=[0-5]). It'll
   modify your system according to security level x features.
   For  a fine description of each security level, consult the docuĀ­
   mentation under /usr/doc/msec-*/.
= end of manpage entry 
...whereas Bastille is a high-level system hardening/firewall configuration tool.
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RE: [newbie] msec and Bastille

2001-12-12 Thread Mark Stewart

Thanks for the reply, Mark.


 this is directly from the man page for msec. it would appear that
 it's nothing more then just a small utility that you can directly
 change/modify the security level setting of your Mandrake OS
 letting the kernel know just how secure or not secure the system
 is to be...
 == from the manpage
 ===
 DESCRIPTION
msec  is  the  main script of msec package. It enables the system
administrator to change the security level for that system.  msec
is  provided with six preconfigured security levels. These levels
range from poor security and ease of  use,  to  paranoid  config,
suitable  for  very  sensitive  server  applications,  managed by
experts.

You must be root to run msec .
Launch msec x to set you security level to x  (x=[0-5]). It'll
modify your system according to security level x features.
For  a fine description of each security level, consult the docuĀ­
mentation under /usr/doc/msec-*/.
 = end of manpage entry
 
 ...whereas Bastille is a high-level system hardening/firewall
 configuration tool.


I'm not sure that the distinction you've drawn actually makes for a
difference. They seem to have a lot of overlap. The only kernel specific
activity I could see msec doing was for redirecting kernel logging to a
different tty but I think Bastille will do that as well. However, after you
mentioned the man pages I thought to ask rpm what dependencies msec had on
other packages and when it didn't list bastille I figured it must be a
separate, parallel system.

So the real question is simply:

 Can I use both or have people found conflicts?


::mark




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[newbie] msec and Bastille

2001-12-11 Thread Mark Stewart

So I've trying to bone up on all things security-related and was trying to
figure out what relationship, if any, there was between Bastille and msec.
Is msec a UI layer over Bastille or is it a separate security tool? Are the
two complementary or exclusionary. Should I run both or pick just one?

cheers,
::mark




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