Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles

2005-01-09 Thread Angus Auld

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From: Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config 
resolv.configfiles
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:30:31 +


  Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-)
  I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I 
  just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to 
  the boonies.
 
  I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once 
  again localhost.
  I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection 
  to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs 
  at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying 
  to determine IP configuration. :-(
  The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my 
  connection is working great.
  What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic???
 
  I am dazed and confused. [8/
 
  Regards.
 
 
  --Angus
Margot replied: 
 I had the same problem - don't know what causes it, but the 
 solution for me was to set the connection *not* to start at boot - 
 once booted, open a terminal as root and do ifup eth0 (without 
 the quotes) and everything works from then on.
 
 -- Regards
 Margot
 *-*-*-*
*
Thanks Margot. :-))
I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted.
Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/
What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had 
my internet connection open on ppp0!

This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine. 
It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for 
learning.

Take care.


--Angus

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles

2005-01-09 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote:
 Thanks Margot. :-))
 I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted.
 Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/
 What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had
 my internet connection open on ppp0!

 This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine.
 It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for
 learning.

Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order?

Anne
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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles

2005-01-09 Thread Sanket Medhi
Anne Wilson wrote:
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On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote:
 

Thanks Margot. :-))
I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted.
Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/
What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had
my internet connection open on ppp0!
This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine.
It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for
learning.
   

Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order?
Anne
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Even I have the same prob...I have configured the eth0 conn *not* to 
start at boot but it *does* start when the x system is loaded! Is this 
normal or is there any solution to this???
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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles

2005-01-09 Thread Trevor
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:18 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote:
  Thanks Margot. :-))
  I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted.
  Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/
  What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had
  my internet connection open on ppp0!
 
  This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine.
  It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for
  learning.

 Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order?

I seem to have the same problem.  I can either boot into linux twice and the  
network comes up or I can use the ifup wlan0 command to get it working.  
Where do I change the order in which things load?

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles

2005-01-09 Thread Angus Auld

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From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config  
resolv.configfiles
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:18:27 +

 
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 On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote:
  Thanks Margot. :-))
  I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted.
  Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/
  What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had
  my internet connection open on ppp0!
 
  This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine.
  It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for
  learning.
 
 Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order?
 
 Anne

Anne, I think you are on to something there. The *order* of these 
devices coming up seems to be what was giving me the trouble.
Since ppp0 is just a *software* device that uses eth0 to do it's 
thing, eth0 has to come up first, before ppp0.
That seems to make sense to me. [8-}

I removed ppp0 and eth0 from my configuration, and then added the 
adsl ppp0 back, using MCC. Things are working OK now, except I am not 
able to connect to my mail server with KMail using my new account. :-/

I wonder where the config file controling the boot order of eth0 and ppp0 
resides?

I can hardly wait to try to get my wireless working when my router arrives. ;-)

Best regards to you Anne.you're a gem. 

--Angus

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles

2005-01-09 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Angus Auld wrote:
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I removed ppp0 and eth0 from my configuration, and then added the 
adsl ppp0 back, using MCC. Things are working OK now, except I am not 
able to connect to my mail server with KMail using my new account. :-/

I wonder where the config file controling the boot order of eth0 and ppp0 
resides?

I can hardly wait to try to get my wireless working when my router arrives. ;-)
Best regards to you Anne.you're a gem. 

--Angus
If you are going to hook the router to the ADSL modem, then you are 
going to have to redo things when you install it. The router will handle 
the PPPoE connection, and your Linux box will be a normal DHCP ethernet 
connection to the router. You have to let the router handle the PPPoE if 
you want to share the connection with other computers, unless you want 
to let the Linux box be your firewall. While this can be done one 
ethernet connection, I am not sure if your router would handle that.

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles

2005-01-09 Thread Eric Huff
Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order?
  
  Anne

 Anne, I think you are on to something there. The *order* of these 
 devices coming up seems to be what was giving me the trouble.
 Since ppp0 is just a *software* device that uses eth0 to do it's 
 thing, eth0 has to come up first, before ppp0.
 That seems to make sense to me. [8-}
 
 I removed ppp0 and eth0 from my configuration, and then added the 
 adsl ppp0 back, using MCC. Things are working OK now, except I am
 not able to connect to my mail server with KMail using my new
 account. :-/
 
 I wonder where the config file controling the boot order of eth0
 and ppp0 resides?
 
It's in the subdir here that corresponds to
your init level:

/etc/rc.d

In my case:
/etc/rc.d/rc3.d

Since i boot into init level (runlevel) 3

eric



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