Re: [newbie] only about 1/2 my hard drive is recognised

2004-07-06 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
John Richard Smith wrote:
Go to the  mobo website and start digging , especially in the bios 
update sections, look up your bios version, and it invariable says 
something about having upgraded the bios to detect HD size XXXgigs, My 
bet is yours is 130Gigs, and then some time later they bring out a later 
bios vesion that upgrades it again to maybe 260Gigs and so on and so 
forth. You may be unlucky and no mention is made of the HD size 
limitation, if so you need to contact your mobo manufacturer support 
desk and ask them what the HD size limitations are on your bios version 
and can you upgrade.
The BIOS settings is not so important to Linux. I have a disk which is 
set to 'none' in the BIOS, Windows doesn't see it but it works just fine 
with Linux!
It's only important for the boot - it's the BIOS that loads LILO from 
the MBR. After that, Linux uses it's own code to access the disk.

Before you do though look up what the bios is saying about your HD size 
, if it sees it all it, it ain't a bios limitation, but if it sees 130G 
then I would think this is where to start.

Sometimes the OS itself has HD limitation but I don't think it is your 
case .
Not for decently recent Linux kernels. For sure not an issue from 
MDK9.2 on.

Some modern HD's also have a cap limit Jumper and yours may have it 
set up as limited to 130G, but that is a large cap limit in my 
experience. John
That is a good point. If that is not the issue, then I'm afraid it's a 
motherboard issue, and there is no cure for that :-(

What motherboard are you using, Eric?
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Re: [newbie] only about 1/2 my hard drive is recognised

2004-07-06 Thread eric jackson

- Original Message - 
From: Raffaele BELARDI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] only about 1/2 my hard drive is recognised


 eric jackson wrote:
  I just had a Maxtor Ultra Series 250 GB hard drive installed as a slave.
  The box says it operates at 7200 RPM. It also says Ultra ATA/133.
 
  Mandrake 10.0 recognizes it but it only shows about 129 GB. The
  installation guide lists certain ATA cards that will only recognize 137
  GB but the Ultra ATA 133 is not listed as having that restriction.

 Eric,

 You say the drive is UATA/133, but does the *motherboard* support
 UATA/133? If not, there is little you can do, except using only the
 lower 130Gb of the disk. Bios upgrade will not necessarily cure the
problem.

 I had a similar issue with a Maxtor 160Gb when I installed it on my
 5-years old Asus P5A-B last winter.  You can fine more info in Twiki
 (http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/ProBlems) under Large Drive

 BTW, I noticed that the kernels included in 10.0 (both the 2.4 and the
 2.6 series) do test the system for large disk compatibility and print a
 message to syslog if incompatibility is found, you might want to check
 the syslog to be sure. The kernel in 9.2 was not so smart so I lost some
 gigs of avi's before finding out!

 raffaele

Thanks for the information.I'll have to dig around and find out if the
motherboard will support my drive. I'll check syslog also. I'll let you know
how things worked out in a few days.

Thanks again

Eric Jackson
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Re: [newbie] only about 1/2 my hard drive is recognised

2004-07-06 Thread eric jackson

- Original Message - 
From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] only about 1/2 my hard drive is recognised


 eric jackson wrote:

 - Original Message - 
 From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 6:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] only about 1/2 my hard drive is recognised
 
 
 
 
 eric jackson wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I just had a Maxtor Ultra Series 250 GB hard drive installed as a
 slave. The box says it operates at 7200 RPM. It also says Ultra
ATA/133.
 
 Mandrake 10.0 recognizes it but it only shows about 129 GB. The
 installation guide lists certain ATA cards that will only recognize
 137 GB but the Ultra ATA 133 is not listed as having that restriction.
 
 Anybody else using this drive? Does anyone have any clues why this is
 happening?
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 Eric Jackson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Mandrake 10.0 recognizes it but it only shows about 129 GB
 
 
 Bios limitations ?
 
 
 
 
 Yeah, I wondered about that myself. I can't seem to fnd that out from the
 manuals that came with my Gateway.
 
 
 
 What does your mobo manufacturer say the bios version limit on HD size
is
 
 
 ? website
 
 Again I can''t find that information in a manual but I will try to find
the
 website of the motherboard manufacturer. Thanks for the tip on where to
 look.
 
 
 
 You can often updated bios to recognise larger drives.
 
 
 
 I'll try that.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Eric Jackson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 Go to the  mobo website and start digging , especially in the bios
 update sections, look up your bios version, and it invariable says
 something about having upgraded the bios to detect HD size XXXgigs, My
 bet is yours is 130Gigs, and then some time later they bring out a later
 bios vesion that upgrades it again to maybe 260Gigs and so on and so
 forth. You may be unlucky and no mention is made of the HD size
 limitation, if so you need to contact your mobo manufacturer support
 desk and ask them what the HD size limitations are on your bios version
 and can you upgrade.


Ok. I'll check into the information you suggested about my motherboard and
bios. Thanks.


 Before you do though look up what the bios is saying about your HD size
 , if it sees it all it, it ain't a bios limitation, but if it sees 130G
 then I would think this is where to start.

I'll take a look.


 Sometimes the OS itself has HD limitation but I don't think it is your
 case .

 Some modern HD's also have a cap limit Jumper and yours may have it
 set up as limited to 130G, but that is a large cap limit in my
 experience.

Okay. I'll get to work and look into the things you suggested. Thanks for
the information.

 John



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Re: [newbie] only about 1/2 my hard drive is recognised

2004-07-06 Thread eric jackson

- Original Message - 
From: Raffaele BELARDI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:31 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] only about 1/2 my hard drive is recognised


 John Richard Smith wrote:
 
  Go to the  mobo website and start digging , especially in the bios
  update sections, look up your bios version, and it invariable says
  something about having upgraded the bios to detect HD size XXXgigs, My
  bet is yours is 130Gigs, and then some time later they bring out a later
  bios vesion that upgrades it again to maybe 260Gigs and so on and so
  forth. You may be unlucky and no mention is made of the HD size
  limitation, if so you need to contact your mobo manufacturer support
  desk and ask them what the HD size limitations are on your bios version
  and can you upgrade.

 The BIOS settings is not so important to Linux. I have a disk which is
 set to 'none' in the BIOS, Windows doesn't see it but it works just fine
 with Linux!
 It's only important for the boot - it's the BIOS that loads LILO from
 the MBR. After that, Linux uses it's own code to access the disk.

 
  Before you do though look up what the bios is saying about your HD size
  , if it sees it all it, it ain't a bios limitation, but if it sees 130G
  then I would think this is where to start.
 
  Sometimes the OS itself has HD limitation but I don't think it is your
  case .

 Not for decently recent Linux kernels. For sure not an issue from
 MDK9.2 on.

  Some modern HD's also have a cap limit Jumper and yours may have it
  set up as limited to 130G, but that is a large cap limit in my
  experience. John

 That is a good point. If that is not the issue, then I'm afraid it's a
 motherboard issue, and there is no cure for that :-(

 What motherboard are you using, Eric?


I'm using a Gateway 1200. It has an MSI Athlon motherboard. The bios is
Amibios 7.00.xx..

Eric


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Re: [newbie] only about 1/2 my hard drive is recognised

2004-07-05 Thread John Richard Smith
eric jackson wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] only about 1/2 my hard drive is recognised

 

eric jackson wrote:
   

Hi,
I just had a Maxtor Ultra Series 250 GB hard drive installed as a
slave. The box says it operates at 7200 RPM. It also says Ultra ATA/133.
Mandrake 10.0 recognizes it but it only shows about 129 GB. The
installation guide lists certain ATA cards that will only recognize
137 GB but the Ultra ATA 133 is not listed as having that restriction.
Anybody else using this drive? Does anyone have any clues why this is
happening?
Thanks for your help.
Eric Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

   

Mandrake 10.0 recognizes it but it only shows about 129 GB
 

Bios limitations ?
   


Yeah, I wondered about that myself. I can't seem to fnd that out from the
manuals that came with my Gateway.
 

What does your mobo manufacturer say the bios version limit on HD size is
   

? website
Again I can''t find that information in a manual but I will try to find the
website of the motherboard manufacturer. Thanks for the tip on where to
look.
 

You can often updated bios to recognise larger drives.
   

I'll try that.
Thanks.
Eric Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Go to the  mobo website and start digging , especially in the bios 
update sections, look up your bios version, and it invariable says 
something about having upgraded the bios to detect HD size XXXgigs, My 
bet is yours is 130Gigs, and then some time later they bring out a later 
bios vesion that upgrades it again to maybe 260Gigs and so on and so 
forth. You may be unlucky and no mention is made of the HD size 
limitation, if so you need to contact your mobo manufacturer support 
desk and ask them what the HD size limitations are on your bios version 
and can you upgrade.

Before you do though look up what the bios is saying about your HD size 
, if it sees it all it, it ain't a bios limitation, but if it sees 130G 
then I would think this is where to start.

Sometimes the OS itself has HD limitation but I don't think it is your 
case .

Some modern HD's also have a cap limit Jumper and yours may have it 
set up as limited to 130G, but that is a large cap limit in my 
experience. 
John


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[newbie] only about 1/2 my hard drive is recognised

2004-07-04 Thread eric jackson



Hi,

I just had a Maxtor Ultra Series 250 GB hard drive 
installed as a slave. The box says it operates at 7200 RPM. It also says Ultra 
ATA/133.

Mandrake 10.0 recognizes it but it only shows about 
129 GB. The installation guide lists certain ATA cards that will only recognize 
137 GB but the Ultra ATA 133 is not listed as having that 
restriction.

Anybody else using this drive? Does anyone have any 
clues why this is happening?

Thanks for your help.

Eric Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]