FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
I have recently had a lot of trouble with an nvidia card - I think the problem has been with the card, not the linux drivers. However one think I have observed is the dissatisfaction with nvidia on their linux site. I have noticed the same with matrox (the other card manufacturer I have dealt with) but the ATI site seems to be quite positive. I don know if anyone else has any first hand experiance with the card manufacturers, but from my observation of their web sites, I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card my 2 cents worth... Hugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I have recently had a lot of trouble with an nvidia card - I think the problem has been with the card, not the linux drivers. However one think I have observed is the dissatisfaction with nvidia on their linux site. I have noticed the same with matrox (the other card manufacturer I have dealt with) but the ATI site seems to be quite positive. I don know if anyone else has any first hand experiance with the card manufacturers, but from my observation of their web sites, I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I don't know about the latest cards from Matrox, but I have a dual-head G400 on this box (I only use 1 head, and the nvidia card is on another box). I have had not the slightest problem and I have used it with every version since 8.1. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4mP/kFAvMr/nNX8RAm/dAJ40AE0GRWL+fsrg1lo8Ie0AhA7NNACaA3Gw Kp9ySsiB08yZFiaeVB/vRaw= =ZheE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I forgot to say that my third Mandrake box has an ATi card - and I doubt if I will ever buy another. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4mQxkFAvMr/nNX8RAmytAJ4oXclcNAoXoVzvuT2TQslHnvux0gCeKlUL i5icf+b8Fsbrx6zsvk9aV6o= =p0nC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Monday 10 January 2005 04:16 am, Anne Wilson wrote: I don't know about the latest cards from Matrox, but I have a dual-head G400 on this box (I only use 1 head, and the nvidia card is on another box). I have had not the slightest problem and I have used it with every version since 8.1. Anne ... and I've been using the G450 w/o the slightest hiccup since about the same time. Glenn -- 05:23:36 up 1 day, 16:13, running Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586, kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk Registered Linux user #324360 This product is meant for educational purposes only. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead is purely coincidental. Void where prohibited. Some assembly may be required. Batteries not included. Contents may settle during shipment. Use only as directed. May be too intense for some viewers. If condition persists, consult your physician. No user-serviceable parts inside. Breaking seal constitutes acceptance of agreement. Not responsible for direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages resulting from any defect, error or failure to perform. Slippery when wet. For office use only. Substantial penalty for early withdrawal. Do not write below this line. Your cancelled check is your receipt. Avoid contact with skin. Employees and their families are not eligible. Beware of dog. Driver does not carry cash. Limited time offer, call now to insure prompt delivery. Use only in well-ventilated area. Keep away from fire or flame. Some equipment shown is optional. Price does not include taxes, dealer prep, or delivery. Penalty for private use. Call toll free before digging. Some of the trademarks mentioned in this product appear for identification purposes only. All models over 18 years of age. Do not use while operating a motor vehicle or heavy equipment. Postage will be paid by addressee. Apply only to affected area. One size fits all. Many suitcases look alike. Edited for television. No solicitors. Reproduction strictly prohibited. Restaurant package, not for resale. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. Decision of judges is final. This supersedes all previous notices. No other warranty expressed or implied. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
I have a dual head G450 and it is excellent, but, from the web sites it appears that matrox development for linux has stagnated (the linux drivers are beta, and have been that way for over a year..) My problems with nvidia - I hope are mostly hardware, rather than driver related. My observations are based on what I have read from the manufacturers support sites. It may just be that ATI cull anything less than complimentry from their site, while the other manufacturers allow any ratbag to express their view :) Ann, What are the problems with your ATI carded machine? Hugh -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 10-Jan-05 22:16 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Cc: Subject:Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I have recently had a lot of trouble with an nvidia card - I think the problem has been with the card, not the linux drivers. However one think I have observed is the dissatisfaction with nvidia on their linux site. I have noticed the same with matrox (the other card manufacturer I have dealt with) but the ATI site seems to be quite positive. I don know if anyone else has any first hand experiance with the card manufacturers, but from my observation of their web sites, I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I don't know about the latest cards from Matrox, but I have a dual-head G400 on this box (I only use 1 head, and the nvidia card is on another box). I have had not the slightest problem and I have used it with every version since 8.1. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4mP/kFAvMr/nNX8RAm/dAJ40AE0GRWL+fsrg1lo8Ie0AhA7NNACaA3Gw Kp9ySsiB08yZFiaeVB/vRaw= =ZheE -END PGP SIGNATURE- winmail.dat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 12:50, Hugh Dixon wrote: I have a dual head G450 and it is excellent, but, from the web sites it appears that matrox development for linux has stagnated (the linux drivers are beta, and have been that way for over a year..) My problems with nvidia - I hope are mostly hardware, rather than driver related. It seems to me that the problems with nvidia cards are rather like the problems with Creative sound cards - models that appear to be the same, aren't, so that they are not as predictable as we would like. I don't play games, so at a pinch I can do without 3D acceleration, though it is a great help for video processing. My observations are based on what I have read from the manufacturers support sites. It may just be that ATI cull anything less than complimentry from their site, while the other manufacturers allow any ratbag to express their view :) Ann, What are the problems with your ATI carded machine? I'm possibly being unfair, but Mandrake wouldn't load at all with the card in one computer. I changed it to another box, got Mandrake loaded, but when I went to check the graphics configuration it crashed and trashed things so badly that re-installation was the best option. It is running 10.1 now, but without proprietary drivers. I can do without acceleration on that box. Of course, many problems stem from hardware incompatibilities within the system, so maybe it's not the fault of the card, but my experiences were far from happy. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4n3gkFAvMr/nNX8RAms5AJ9GWUF1zuSPy90eePdfHLWVqnP8IgCeLZev kFp05JOmXTnKAAGgsPWo1dA= =q6ed -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
Your problems with ATI sound like mine with nvidia. My interest is in the CAD area, and I like decent 3D acceleration - which it seems to me, to something that the card manufacurers are not willing to provide to their linux users Combined with my ignorance of linux this leads to frustration on my part :( Oh well Hugh -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 11-Jan-05 00:06 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Cc: Subject:Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 12:50, Hugh Dixon wrote: I have a dual head G450 and it is excellent, but, from the web sites it appears that matrox development for linux has stagnated (the linux drivers are beta, and have been that way for over a year..) My problems with nvidia - I hope are mostly hardware, rather than driver related. It seems to me that the problems with nvidia cards are rather like the problems with Creative sound cards - models that appear to be the same, aren't, so that they are not as predictable as we would like. I don't play games, so at a pinch I can do without 3D acceleration, though it is a great help for video processing. My observations are based on what I have read from the manufacturers support sites. It may just be that ATI cull anything less than complimentry from their site, while the other manufacturers allow any ratbag to express their view :) Ann, What are the problems with your ATI carded machine? I'm possibly being unfair, but Mandrake wouldn't load at all with the card in one computer. I changed it to another box, got Mandrake loaded, but when I went to check the graphics configuration it crashed and trashed things so badly that re-installation was the best option. It is running 10.1 now, but without proprietary drivers. I can do without acceleration on that box. Of course, many problems stem from hardware incompatibilities within the system, so maybe it's not the fault of the card, but my experiences were far from happy. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4n3gkFAvMr/nNX8RAms5AJ9GWUF1zuSPy90eePdfHLWVqnP8IgCeLZev kFp05JOmXTnKAAGgsPWo1dA= =q6ed -END PGP SIGNATURE- winmail.dat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Monday 10 January 2005 05:17 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I forgot to say that my third Mandrake box has an ATi card - and I doubt if I will ever buy another. Argh, don't say that. My NVIDIA card is crapping out and I just went and picked up an ATi Radeon 9550SE; does anyone know of any verified problems/quirks with getting this to work under Mandrake 10.x? I haven't installed it yet so I could return it if necessary... http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=181931 Anne David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 00:43, David Reynolds wrote: On Monday 10 January 2005 05:17 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I forgot to say that my third Mandrake box has an ATi card - and I doubt if I will ever buy another. Argh, don't say that. My NVIDIA card is crapping out and I just went and picked up an ATi Radeon 9550SE; does anyone know of any verified problems/quirks with getting this to work under Mandrake 10.x? I haven't installed it yet so I could return it if necessary... NVidia has the best drivers for any video card under GNU/linux currently; most problems with NVidia cards either comes from overheating or the chipset goes south; if your graphics card has a fan unit on it, check that the fan is actually working and dust-free; GPU cooling fans can be purchsed elsewhere as well - made by 3d party companies - such as Thermaltake. I would not use an ATI under GNU/linux as the driver support is not there, nor are the other abilities of the graphics cards. The ATI drivers are problematic at best and do not deliver the full capabilities of the ATI graphics card. They literally ARE made for MS Windows or OS/X only. Experience is the best teacher. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits? -- Economics explained (Terry Pratchett, The Colour of Magic) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 07:21 +1100, Stephen Kühn wrote: NVidia has the best drivers for any video card under GNU/linux currently; most problems with NVidia cards either comes from overheating or the chipset goes south; if your graphics card has a fan unit on it, check that the fan is actually working and dust-free; GPU cooling fans can be purchsed elsewhere as well - made by 3d party companies - such as Thermaltake. I currently have an NVidia GeForce FX5300 PCI Express running which will only run under the VESA driver under MDK 10.1OE with kernel 2.6.8.1. I have a Pentium 4 3200E CPU and 512mb ram. I gather from the twicki and the NVidia driver page that I may need to install a Linux kernal with SMB support for this CPU, Video Card, and PCI-Express support. However, the kernals with SMP support that show up on my graphic urpmi install program are 2.4 kernels with descriptions that they are for systems with 1GB or more ram. Does anyone know if it will hurt my system to install one of these SMP enabled kernels? The NVidia driver docs indicate that I can compile the driver against kernel source code with SMP support. I'm lost. Any help would be appreciated. I suppose I should have started a new thread. Sorry, if this is poor list etiquette. I would not use an ATI under GNU/linux as the driver support is not there, nor are the other abilities of the graphics cards. The ATI drivers are problematic at best and do not deliver the full capabilities of the ATI graphics card. They literally ARE made for MS Windows or OS/X only. Experience is the best teacher. _ -- Kenneth Rhodes 100% MicroSoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
