Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Networking
On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 07:01, Marcia wrote: I really do not think I need to do internet sharing afterall since my laptop linux is using USB cable internet independently of my desktop which is using the regular cable modem hookup. It seems to be working fine that way however is their a way I can network between the two machines through the cable modem that they are both hooked up to without getting another NIC card for the desktop? I only want to share files between the 2 computers and I guess I really do not need to share the internet afterall. How would I go about this? Do I still need the crossover cable for this? Something tells me yes. Any particular kind or speed, etc? Will I have to use samba for the filesharing after they are hooked up? Thanks for any help here. Sincerely. Marcia --- Hi Marcia, I think Harm's response covers your main question, but maybe I can clarify a little more. - using the cable modem as a hub 1. probably won't be workable 2. depends on the cable network for connectivity and is therefore relatively slow compared with a LAN connection 3. May cost you a lot of money depending on how your usage is charged - the crossed cable you need is a standard cat 5 cable with the wires crossed. easily available at any computer supply and totally independent of your network card - from what you describe and as long as both machines are running linux, you probably don't need internet sharing except that if you use the port on the laptop to connect to a second NIC on the desktopIf you run W$ on the laptop though it really should be behind the linux machine in network terms for security. - when it's all set up, the easiest means of sharing files would be NFS if both are using linux. webmin makes this easy to set up - I mean REALLY easy! - if you need to network also with the laptop running W$, then Samba comes into play. Again, not difficult to set up simple shares, in fact with 8.2, virtually a one click operation. Buy that second NIC and cable! Be convinced! :-) I'm not giving up easily! ;-) Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Fwd: Re: [newbie] Networking
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] Networking Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 16:58:57 -0400 From: Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday 09 May 2002 02:23 am, you wrote: On Thursday 09 May 2002 8:41 am, Marcia wrote: Dear All, I have a desktop with LM8.2 that is connected to a cable modem through a cable wire and a laptop with Win98 that can work with cable also or with a dial-up modem. The cable modem is a Toshiba DOCSIS that also can be hooked up through USB. My laptop has USB so I was wondering if I could hook it up to the cable modem through the USB hook-up so that I could share the internet and network between the laptop and desktop? Does anyone have any ideas how I may set this up? Thanks. Sincerely, Marcia I beleive USB cannot be directly used for networking as it is a parent - child (computer - peripheral) relationship, not peer to peer. Having said that a USB NIC could theoretically exist. Dunno how fast it would be though. NIC's (Network Interface Cards) are as cheap as toothpaste almost anyway. And the correct way to set up a peer to peer network. A slower alternative is the Null modem cable which requires Serial Ports available on both PC's. Confusing or enlightening you... i dunno. Dear All, I really do not think I need to do internet sharing afterall since my laptop linux is using USB cable internet independently of my desktop which is using the regular cable modem hookup. It seems to be working fine that way however is their a way I can network between the two machines through the cable modem that they are both hooked up to without getting another NIC card for the desktop? I only want to share files between the 2 computers and I guess I really do not need to share the internet afterall. How would I go about this? Do I still need the crossover cable for this? Something tells me yes. Any particular kind or speed, etc? Will I have to use samba for the filesharing after they are hooked up? Thanks for any help here. Sincerely. Marcia --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Networking
On Saturday 18 May 2002 23:01, you wrote: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] Networking Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 16:58:57 -0400 From: Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday 09 May 2002 02:23 am, you wrote: On Thursday 09 May 2002 8:41 am, Marcia wrote: Dear All, I have a desktop with LM8.2 that is connected to a cable modem through a cable wire and a laptop with Win98 that can work with cable also or with a dial-up modem. The cable modem is a Toshiba DOCSIS that also can be hooked up through USB. My laptop has USB so I was wondering if I could hook it up to the cable modem through the USB hook-up so that I could share the internet and network between the laptop and desktop? Does anyone have any ideas how I may set this up? Thanks. Sincerely, Marcia I beleive USB cannot be directly used for networking as it is a parent - child (computer - peripheral) relationship, not peer to peer. Having said that a USB NIC could theoretically exist. Dunno how fast it would be though. NIC's (Network Interface Cards) are as cheap as toothpaste almost anyway. And the correct way to set up a peer to peer network. A slower alternative is the Null modem cable which requires Serial Ports available on both PC's. Confusing or enlightening you... i dunno. Dear All, I really do not think I need to do internet sharing afterall since my laptop linux is using USB cable internet independently of my desktop which is using the regular cable modem hookup. It seems to be working fine that way however is their a way I can network between the two machines through the cable modem that they are both hooked up to without getting another NIC card for the desktop? I only want to share files between the 2 computers and I guess I really do not need to share the internet afterall. How would I go about this? Do I still need the crossover cable for this? Something tells me yes. Any particular kind or speed, etc? Will I have to use samba for the filesharing after they are hooked up? Thanks for any help here. - Marcia, I'm not really sure what exactly you're asking but if you're trying to use the cable-modem as a sort of hub replacement: It probably won't work and using a crossover cable won't change it. If on the other hand you're connecting the 2 boxes directly (without a hub) you will need the crossover, but you will also need 2 nic's on the desktop (or let your laptop share it usb connection ) one nic for the internet and the other for the lan. If you have flatrate and your provider allows it you could optionally create your own pseudo-ftpserver in a private corner on the space you've been allowed for your homepage for instance. It not fast or practical but very flexible:o) Good luck, Harm Bathoorn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Fwd: Re: [newbie] networking with linux
Lee Start off by teading the HOWTo's on Mandrake User Online http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/ Also check out the archive of this email list http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/ Samba will get your Windows machines networked to the Linux machine. The Windows machines will be able to browse the Linux files with Network Neighbourhood. LISa will give you the ability to browse your windows machines from Konquerer just like Windows Network Neighbourhood. (Some old mails tell how about configuring LISa) IP Maquerading will allow the Linux box to be a gateway for the Windows machines. Tip: When configuring Samba to get networking between your Linux box and your Windows boxes. Don't forget to enable password encrption in Samba. That one catches everyone out. Derek On Tuesday 11 September 2001 04:54, you wrote: Hi, I want to network my linux box with my two other machines (win2k and win98), I want the linux box to act as a server on the network as it will eventually be connected to the internet and the other two shall access the net through it (hopefully). I have not configured the linux box at all as i am unsure about networking with linux. Where is the best place to start, anyone got any decent sites that cover this for the newbie? I am just unsure where to start with all this. thanks in advance lee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
