Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2
On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 05:39, Mark wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Greg Meyer wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 06:45 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: made a major improvement to the whole package. Yours and Greg's help on doing cooker updates has opened a whole new ball game for me, my wife hates you both. Ha : ) Actually, maybe we need a mdk-spouse list :-D h...that can be arranged, you know :P Don't y'all reckon that the SPOUSES probably don't want nothing to do with computers at all - being that computers are the things/objects that are causing them the most despair and frustration? -- -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 12:39, Mark wrote: If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? I thought you'd all like to know: If necessity is the mother of invention, then LAZINESS is the father! Harv Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2
On Thursday March 6 2003 09:54 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:03 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: You create a urpmi source with a cooker mirror and then every day, do urpmi.update -a and then urpmi --autoselect To add a cooker urpmi source, go here for instructions http://www.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php I find the best time to update is about 0:00UTC. AT that point, everybody in France has gone home (I hope) and most of the mirrors have propogated the changes for the day. Thanks Greg, I doing the addmedia now. I'd just add: 'urpmi.update -a --wget urpmi --auto-select' Run it as one command so you never forget to update your sources right before you check for new updated rpms. I made an alias for it to save typing. I've found --wget tries harder than curl does, to get the new synthesis.hdlist.cz if the mirror is busy. I'd also sugest you add more than one cooker mirror. EG, I normally use sunsite because it updates hourly and since it's the primary mirror, it's the first to have new files. But, I also add a second mirror, eg, ciril, or club-internet, that has many less users, for times when sunsite is just too busy. FWIW tho, if you just update once a day or less, sunsite is probly not the best choice for you. Greg's suggestion, best time to update is about 0:00UTC is very good advice, specially from European mirrors. Since you're on the CL already, typing 'edit-' and then pressing Tab will auto complete to 'edit-urpm-sources.pl' which runs Software Sources Manager (SSM). In that little GUI all your sources are displayed, and you can Check or Uncheck them to choose which mirror to get updates from, or to switch to another one if needed. I'd also suggest that if you have 'other' mirrors (eg, plf, texstar, etc.), or your install CD's still showing as sources, use SSM to disable them while updating from cooker. MOF, leave 'em disabled till you need 'em. You probly won't anyhow ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2
On Thursday March 6 2003 01:47 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: I have not checked shorewall on mine, but using dhcp did not work (I turned off acpi as well Greg) had to move to static ip address again. Will check shorewall tonight and change back to dhcp. I also as a precaution installed all programs which had something to do with dhcp even the server just to be on the safe side. Tony. Have y'all checked the cooker list (archive at least)? There's been lot's of discussion about both shorewall and dhcp. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/archives/cooker/ My fix for shorewall is to use guarddog. It doesn't require any user knowledge as shorewall does. I haven't had any dhcp problem, but there's been several fixes suggested by and/or for those that do. BTW, I strongly suggest you update RC2 to current cooker if you feel you have found a bug. Bugzilla is gettin flooded by those running obsolete cooker, and RC2 is already 6 days old. Many things have already been fixed. Also please search current bug reports, as bugzilla is also gettin loaded down with duplicates. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas -Original Message- From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2 On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:55 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Just installed the new rc2 and find that as long as shorewall is installed I can not connect to the internet. I know one other ML afficianado with the same problem. Anyone else? Bug report time. Make sure you give a lot of info about this, including the order in which you ran the draktools, meaning, did you run ICS before shorewall or shorewall beofre ICS, along with exacly what connection you set to allow. This seemingly extraneous info is important, because I cannot reproduce the problem here, Shorewall works as advertised for me. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2
On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:10 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday March 6 2003 01:47 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: I have not checked shorewall on mine, but using dhcp did not work (I turned off acpi as well Greg) had to move to static ip address again. Will check shorewall tonight and change back to dhcp. I also as a precaution installed all programs which had something to do with dhcp even the server just to be on the safe side. Tony. Have y'all checked the cooker list (archive at least)? There's been lot's of discussion about both shorewall and dhcp. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/archives/cooker/ My fix for shorewall is to use guarddog. It doesn't require any user knowledge as shorewall does. I haven't had any dhcp problem, but there's been several fixes suggested by and/or for those that do. BTW, I strongly suggest you update RC2 to current cooker if you feel you have found a bug. Bugzilla is gettin flooded by those running obsolete cooker, and RC2 is already 6 days old. Many things have already been fixed. Also please search current bug reports, as bugzilla is also gettin loaded down with duplicates. Tom, how do you update via cooker? I have not done anything like that before. Do you use rsync? Point me and I will go. : ) TIA -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2
On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:42 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:10 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday March 6 2003 01:47 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: I have not checked shorewall on mine, but using dhcp did not work (I turned off acpi as well Greg) had to move to static ip address again. Will check shorewall tonight and change back to dhcp. I also as a precaution installed all programs which had something to do with dhcp even the server just to be on the safe side. Tony. Have y'all checked the cooker list (archive at least)? There's been lot's of discussion about both shorewall and dhcp. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/archives/cooker/ My fix for shorewall is to use guarddog. It doesn't require any user knowledge as shorewall does. I haven't had any dhcp problem, but there's been several fixes suggested by and/or for those that do. BTW, I strongly suggest you update RC2 to current cooker if you feel you have found a bug. Bugzilla is gettin flooded by those running obsolete cooker, and RC2 is already 6 days old. Many things have already been fixed. Also please search current bug reports, as bugzilla is also gettin loaded down with duplicates. Tom, how do you update via cooker? I have not done anything like that before. Do you use rsync? Point me and I will go. : ) TIA You create a urpmi source with a cooker mirror and then every day, do urpmi.update -a and then urpmi --autoselect To add a cooker urpmi source, go here for instructions http://www.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php I find the best time to update is about 0:00UTC. AT that point, everybody in France has gone home (I hope) and most of the mirrors have propogated the changes for the day. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2
On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:03 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:42 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:10 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday March 6 2003 01:47 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: I have not checked shorewall on mine, but using dhcp did not work (I turned off acpi as well Greg) had to move to static ip address again. Will check shorewall tonight and change back to dhcp. I also as a precaution installed all programs which had something to do with dhcp even the server just to be on the safe side. Tony. Have y'all checked the cooker list (archive at least)? There's been lot's of discussion about both shorewall and dhcp. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/archives/cooker/ My fix for shorewall is to use guarddog. It doesn't require any user knowledge as shorewall does. I haven't had any dhcp problem, but there's been several fixes suggested by and/or for those that do. BTW, I strongly suggest you update RC2 to current cooker if you feel you have found a bug. Bugzilla is gettin flooded by those running obsolete cooker, and RC2 is already 6 days old. Many things have already been fixed. Also please search current bug reports, as bugzilla is also gettin loaded down with duplicates. Tom, how do you update via cooker? I have not done anything like that before. Do you use rsync? Point me and I will go. : ) TIA You create a urpmi source with a cooker mirror and then every day, do urpmi.update -a and then urpmi --autoselect To add a cooker urpmi source, go here for instructions http://www.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php I find the best time to update is about 0:00UTC. AT that point, everybody in France has gone home (I hope) and most of the mirrors have propogated the changes for the day. Thanks Greg, I doing the addmedia now. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:55 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Just installed the new rc2 and find that as long as shorewall is installed I can not connect to the internet. I know one other ML afficianado with the same problem. Anyone else? Bug report time. Make sure you give a lot of info about this, including the order in which you ran the draktools, meaning, did you run ICS before shorewall or shorewall beofre ICS, along with exacly what connection you set to allow. This seemingly extraneous info is important, because I cannot reproduce the problem here, Shorewall works as advertised for me. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] 9.0rc2
I have not checked shorewall on mine, but using dhcp did not work (I turned off acpi as well Greg) had to move to static ip address again. Will check shorewall tonight and change back to dhcp. I also as a precaution installed all programs which had something to do with dhcp even the server just to be on the safe side. Tony. -Original Message- From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2 On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:55 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Just installed the new rc2 and find that as long as shorewall is installed I can not connect to the internet. I know one other ML afficianado with the same problem. Anyone else? Bug report time. Make sure you give a lot of info about this, including the order in which you ran the draktools, meaning, did you run ICS before shorewall or shorewall beofre ICS, along with exacly what connection you set to allow. This seemingly extraneous info is important, because I cannot reproduce the problem here, Shorewall works as advertised for me. -- Greg -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com