Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2

2003-03-11 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 05:39, Mark wrote:
 On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Greg Meyer wrote:
 
  On Friday 07 March 2003 06:45 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
   made a major improvement to the whole package. Yours and Greg's help on
   doing cooker updates has opened a whole new ball game for me, my wife hates
   you both. Ha : )
  
  
  Actually, maybe we need a mdk-spouse list :-D
 
 h...that can be arranged, you know :P 

Don't y'all reckon that the SPOUSES probably don't want nothing to do
with computers at all - being that computers are the things/objects that
are causing them the most despair and frustration?

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Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2

2003-03-11 Thread Harv Nelson
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 12:39, Mark wrote:
 If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father?

I thought you'd all like to know:

If necessity is the mother of invention, then LAZINESS is the father!

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Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2

2003-03-07 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday March 6 2003 09:54 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:03 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:

  You create a urpmi source with a cooker mirror and then every
  day, do
 
  urpmi.update -a
 
  and then
 
  urpmi --autoselect
 
  To add a cooker urpmi source, go here for instructions
 
  http://www.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php
 
  I find the best time to update is about 0:00UTC.  AT that point,
  everybody in France has gone home (I hope) and most of the
  mirrors have propogated the changes for the day.

 Thanks Greg, I doing the addmedia now.

   I'd just add:  'urpmi.update -a --wget  urpmi --auto-select'

Run it as one command so you never forget to update your sources 
right before you check for new updated rpms. I made an alias for it 
to save typing. I've found  --wget tries harder than curl does, to 
get the new synthesis.hdlist.cz if the mirror is busy. I'd also 
sugest you add more than one cooker mirror. EG, I normally use 
sunsite because it updates hourly and since it's the primary mirror, 
it's the first to have new files. But, I also add a second mirror, 
eg, ciril, or club-internet, that has many less users, for times when 
sunsite is just too busy. FWIW tho, if you just update once a day or 
less, sunsite is probly not the best choice for you. Greg's 
suggestion, best time to update is about 0:00UTC is very good 
advice, specially from European mirrors.

Since you're on the CL already, typing 'edit-' and then pressing 
Tab will auto complete to 'edit-urpm-sources.pl' which runs 
Software Sources Manager (SSM). In that little GUI all your sources 
are displayed, and you can Check or Uncheck them to choose which 
mirror to get updates from, or to switch to another one if needed.   
I'd also suggest that if you have 'other' mirrors (eg, plf, texstar, 
etc.), or your install CD's still showing as sources, use SSM to 
disable them while updating from cooker.  MOF, leave 'em disabled 
till you need 'em. You probly won't anyhow ;)
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Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2

2003-03-06 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday March 6 2003 01:47 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
 I have not checked shorewall on mine, but using dhcp did not work
 (I turned off acpi as well Greg) had to move to static ip address
 again. Will check shorewall tonight and change back to dhcp. I also
 as a precaution installed all programs which had something to do
 with dhcp even the server just to be on the safe side.

 Tony.

 Have y'all checked the cooker list (archive at least)? There's 
been lot's of discussion about both shorewall and dhcp.

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/archives/cooker/

   My fix for shorewall is to use guarddog. It doesn't require any 
user knowledge as shorewall does. I haven't had any dhcp problem, but 
there's been several fixes suggested by and/or for those that do.

BTW, I strongly suggest you update RC2 to current cooker if you 
feel you have found a bug.  Bugzilla is gettin flooded by those 
running obsolete cooker, and RC2 is already 6 days old. Many things 
have already been fixed.  Also please search current bug reports, as 
bugzilla is also gettin loaded down with duplicates.
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 -Original Message-
 From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:17 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2

 On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:55 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
  Just installed the new rc2 and find that as long as shorewall is

 installed

  I can not connect to the internet. I know one other ML
  afficianado

 with the

  same problem. Anyone else? Bug report time.

 Make sure you give a lot of info about this, including the order in
 which you
 ran the draktools, meaning, did you run ICS before shorewall or
 shorewall
 beofre ICS, along with exacly what connection you set to allow. 
 This seemingly extraneous info is important, because I cannot
 reproduce the problem here, Shorewall works as advertised for me.


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Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2

2003-03-06 Thread Dennis Myers
On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:10 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Thursday March 6 2003 01:47 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
  I have not checked shorewall on mine, but using dhcp did not work
  (I turned off acpi as well Greg) had to move to static ip address
  again. Will check shorewall tonight and change back to dhcp. I also
  as a precaution installed all programs which had something to do
  with dhcp even the server just to be on the safe side.
 
  Tony.

  Have y'all checked the cooker list (archive at least)? There's
 been lot's of discussion about both shorewall and dhcp.

 http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/archives/cooker/

My fix for shorewall is to use guarddog. It doesn't require any
 user knowledge as shorewall does. I haven't had any dhcp problem, but
 there's been several fixes suggested by and/or for those that do.

 BTW, I strongly suggest you update RC2 to current cooker if you
 feel you have found a bug.  Bugzilla is gettin flooded by those
 running obsolete cooker, and RC2 is already 6 days old. Many things
 have already been fixed.  Also please search current bug reports, as
 bugzilla is also gettin loaded down with duplicates.

Tom, how do you update via cooker? I have not done anything like that before. 
Do you use rsync? Point me and I will go. :  )  TIA
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Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2

2003-03-06 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:42 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:10 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
  On Thursday March 6 2003 01:47 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
   I have not checked shorewall on mine, but using dhcp did not work
   (I turned off acpi as well Greg) had to move to static ip address
   again. Will check shorewall tonight and change back to dhcp. I also
   as a precaution installed all programs which had something to do
   with dhcp even the server just to be on the safe side.
  
   Tony.
 
   Have y'all checked the cooker list (archive at least)? There's
  been lot's of discussion about both shorewall and dhcp.
 
  http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/archives/cooker/
 
 My fix for shorewall is to use guarddog. It doesn't require any
  user knowledge as shorewall does. I haven't had any dhcp problem, but
  there's been several fixes suggested by and/or for those that do.
 
  BTW, I strongly suggest you update RC2 to current cooker if you
  feel you have found a bug.  Bugzilla is gettin flooded by those
  running obsolete cooker, and RC2 is already 6 days old. Many things
  have already been fixed.  Also please search current bug reports, as
  bugzilla is also gettin loaded down with duplicates.

 Tom, how do you update via cooker? I have not done anything like that
 before. Do you use rsync? Point me and I will go. :  )  TIA

You create a urpmi source with a cooker mirror and then every day, do 

urpmi.update -a

and then

urpmi --autoselect

To add a cooker urpmi source, go here for instructions

http://www.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php

I find the best time to update is about 0:00UTC.  AT that point, everybody in 
France has gone home (I hope) and most of the mirrors have propogated the 
changes for the day.
-- 
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Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2

2003-03-06 Thread Dennis Myers
On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:03 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:42 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
  On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:10 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
   On Thursday March 6 2003 01:47 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
I have not checked shorewall on mine, but using dhcp did not work
(I turned off acpi as well Greg) had to move to static ip address
again. Will check shorewall tonight and change back to dhcp. I also
as a precaution installed all programs which had something to do
with dhcp even the server just to be on the safe side.
   
Tony.
  
Have y'all checked the cooker list (archive at least)? There's
   been lot's of discussion about both shorewall and dhcp.
  
   http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/archives/cooker/
  
  My fix for shorewall is to use guarddog. It doesn't require any
   user knowledge as shorewall does. I haven't had any dhcp problem, but
   there's been several fixes suggested by and/or for those that do.
  
   BTW, I strongly suggest you update RC2 to current cooker if you
   feel you have found a bug.  Bugzilla is gettin flooded by those
   running obsolete cooker, and RC2 is already 6 days old. Many things
   have already been fixed.  Also please search current bug reports, as
   bugzilla is also gettin loaded down with duplicates.
 
  Tom, how do you update via cooker? I have not done anything like that
  before. Do you use rsync? Point me and I will go. :  )  TIA

 You create a urpmi source with a cooker mirror and then every day, do

 urpmi.update -a

 and then

 urpmi --autoselect

 To add a cooker urpmi source, go here for instructions

 http://www.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php

 I find the best time to update is about 0:00UTC.  AT that point, everybody
 in France has gone home (I hope) and most of the mirrors have propogated
 the changes for the day.
Thanks Greg, I doing the addmedia now.
-- 
Dennis M. linux user #180842

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Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2

2003-03-05 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:55 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
 Just installed the new rc2 and find that as long as shorewall is installed
 I can not connect to the internet. I know one other ML afficianado with the
 same problem. Anyone else? Bug report time.

Make sure you give a lot of info about this, including the order in which you 
ran the draktools, meaning, did you run ICS before shorewall or shorewall 
beofre ICS, along with exacly what connection you set to allow.  This 
seemingly extraneous info is important, because I cannot reproduce the 
problem here, Shorewall works as advertised for me.
-- 
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RE: [newbie] 9.0rc2

2003-03-05 Thread Tony S. Sykes
I have not checked shorewall on mine, but using dhcp did not work (I
turned off acpi as well Greg) had to move to static ip address again.
Will check shorewall tonight and change back to dhcp. I also as a
precaution installed all programs which had something to do with dhcp
even the server just to be on the safe side.

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.0rc2


On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:55 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
 Just installed the new rc2 and find that as long as shorewall is
installed
 I can not connect to the internet. I know one other ML afficianado
with the
 same problem. Anyone else? Bug report time.

Make sure you give a lot of info about this, including the order in
which you 
ran the draktools, meaning, did you run ICS before shorewall or
shorewall 
beofre ICS, along with exacly what connection you set to allow.  This 
seemingly extraneous info is important, because I cannot reproduce the 
problem here, Shorewall works as advertised for me.
-- 
Greg
  

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