Re: [newbie] Automatic Reboot Scheduling

2004-08-03 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 23:01:10 +1000
Mark Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Team
 
 Thanks to all those who have given invaluable help over the last
 few weeks. One last item (for the moment) that I need to do is
 setup my system (which is always on) to reboot once a day. Im
 doing this to ensure there are no problems while absent from the
 machine for a couple of weeks. (And will be 10,000km from the
 machine). The machine will not be logged on as 'root' and my
 security limit is set pretty high (i.e. the reboot command needs
 to be looged in as 'root' before it executes). Anyone have any
 idea of how I should go about doing this?
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Yours Sincerely
 
 Mark A Rogers
 Orion Solutions
 PO BOX 1492
 Wodonga Vic 3689
 www.orionsolutions.com.au
 Phone +61 2 6056 5455
 
 
 
 
I have to ask.  Why do you want to reboot? 

Lee


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RE: [newbie] Automatic Reboot Scheduling

2004-08-03 Thread Tony S. Sykes
I would imagine it is easy enough to do, set-up a cron job and get it to do a reboot 
-r. Never tried so you will be a guinea pig. As everybody else has said I can see no 
benefit in doing this on a daily basis.

Tony.

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 Hi Team
 
 Thanks to all those who have given invaluable help over the 
 last few weeks. One last item (for the moment) that I need to 
 do is setup my system (which is always on) to reboot once a 
 day. Im doing this to ensure there are no problems while 
 absent from the machine for a couple of weeks. (And will be 
 10,000km from the machine). The machine will not be logged on 
 as 'root' and my security limit is set pretty high (i.e. the 
 reboot command needs to be looged in as 'root' before it 
 executes). Anyone
 have any idea of how I should go about
 doing this?
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Yours Sincerely
 
 Mark A Rogers
 Orion Solutions
 PO BOX 1492
 Wodonga Vic 3689
 www.orionsolutions.com.au
 Phone +61 2 6056 5455
 
 
 
 


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Re: [newbie] Automatic Reboot Scheduling

2004-08-03 Thread Frans Ketelaars
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 18:21, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Frans Ketelaars wrote:
   On Tuesday 03 August 2004 15:01, Mark Rogers wrote:
   Hi Team
  
   Thanks to all those who have given invaluable help over the last
   few weeks. One last item (for the moment) that I need to do is
   setup my system (which is always on) to reboot once a day. Im
   doing this to ensure there are no problems while absent from the
   machine for a couple of weeks. (And will be 10,000km from the
   machine). The machine will not be logged on as 'root' and my
   security limit is set pretty high (i.e. the reboot command needs
   to be looged in as 'root' before it executes). Anyone have any
   idea of how I should go about doing this?
 
   Slightly OT: you can easyly set up an old computer with an old
  modem to dial in to (or which has a permanent net connection) and
  let it powercycle the main machine when it has crashed. See
   http://www.telenovela-world.com/~spade/linux/howto/Coffee.html for
   details :-)
 
   -Frans

 Another way is to pick up a watchdog timer card, and let it reboot
 the machine if it locks up.  There are several that are supported
 out of the box by the kernel, and it shouldn't be too hard to make
 others work.  There is also a software version, but it isn't as
 dependable.  It can not recover from a lockup inside a driver that
 has interrupts turned off.  The hardware versions do not suffer from
 this limitation.

These watchdog timer cards are expensive though I think. They may be 
able to reboot the machine more subtly than a power cycle would, but I 
guess this depends on the kind of lock up and the capabilities of the 
card. 

You could also use an old (= 386) computer to monitor the main machine 
by checking if it continually flips a bit on an unused parallel or 
serial port (with the main machine configured to do so) and after a 
timeout period power cycling the main machine.

At least it would be cheap (hardware wise) ;-)

 On the other hand, with the normal uptime for a Linux server measured
 in months or years, it usually isn't needed...  It has been years
 since I locked up, or crashed a Linux system that wasn't caused by
 hardware failing, loss of power, or by my exparmenting with something
 as root that I knew was risky.  (Playing with video modes for DOSumu,
 new device driver, etc...)

 Mikkel

-Frans



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Re: [newbie] Automatic Reboot Scheduling

2004-08-03 Thread Mark Rogers
** Reply to message from Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 3 Aug 2004 03:38:20 
+

Hi Lee  Team


 On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 23:01:10 +1000
 Mark Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Team
  
  Thanks to all those who have given invaluable help over the last
  few weeks. One last item (for the moment) that I need to do is
  setup my system (which is always on) to reboot once a day. Im
  doing this to ensure there are no problems while absent from the
  machine for a couple of weeks. (And will be 10,000km from the
  machine). The machine will not be logged on as 'root' and my
  security limit is set pretty high (i.e. the reboot command needs
  to be looged in as 'root' before it executes). Anyone have any
  idea of how I should go about doing this?
  
  Thanks in advance
  
  Yours Sincerely
  
  Mark A Rogers
  Orion Solutions
  PO BOX 1492
  Wodonga Vic 3689
  www.orionsolutions.com.au
  Phone +61 2 6056 5455
  
  
  
  
 I have to ask.  Why do you want to reboot? 
 

I will be a long way away from the machine in question, and its a new setup. I have 
seen it freeze once in the last two weeks and I cant have it doing the same when Im 
away from it. (Possibly hardware but at this stage Im uncertain). Hence the need to 
ensure it keeps working by giving it a reboot every 24 hours. I just cant afford to 
have it go down, even though it probably wont but know murphys law it probably 
will.

 Lee
 
 
 
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Yours Sincerely

Mark A Rogers
Orion Solutions
PO BOX 1492
Wodonga Vic 3689
www.orionsolutions.com.au
Phone +61 2 6056 5455




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Re: [newbie] Automatic Reboot Scheduling

2004-08-03 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 04 August 2004 03:08 am, Mark Rogers wrote:

 I will be a long way away from the machine in question, and its a new
 setup. I have seen it freeze once in the last two weeks and I cant have it
 doing the same when Im away from it. (Possibly hardware but at this stage
 Im uncertain). Hence the need to ensure it keeps working by giving it a
 reboot every 24 hours. I just cant afford to have it go down, even though
 it probably wont but know murphys law it probably will.

http://www.berkprod.com/LP_pci_pc_watchdog.htm

-- 
Bryan Phinney



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