Re: [newbie] Linux partitioning
Your partitioning scheme, with 3/4 root, 1/4 home, and the rest swap sounds good to me. You definitly want /home on it's own partition, so that if you ever need to reinstall or upgrade, you can just format the root parititon, but keep all your /home files safe. I'm reading up on setting up linux, and it states that many will setup separate partitions for /usr and /home besides ones swap space. I would like to ask you how you usually setup your partitioning. I was a little bit confused on it, for you at least need a mounting point of root. This is how I did it, but I'm not sure if it's how it should be done. I set one partition for about 3/4 of the drive as '/'. I thought that would cover my separate partition for /usr as well as the mount point. My second partition and about 1/4 of the drive (not all, as the last is for swap) I set as mount point /home. Then of course the remaining 256 megs I set for swap. At first I was going to create a 7 meg partition just for mounting root, then the larger 3/4 approx for /usr, and then the last primary for /home but I thought it just made more sense to make just a / and /home partition. Maybe I'm just not thinking about this correctly. Any suggestions would be appreciated! I'm using mandrake 7.2 -Gregg -- Anthony http://binaryfusion.net Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit.
RE: [newbie] Linux partitioning
It allows you to use several different kernels more easily. Some people have a need for it, some don't :o) regards Daryl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: 27 February 2001 23:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux partitioning Daryl, You're correct...I did miss that part. Could-a swore you were suggesting a 10MB /. However, why would you want to waste so much space on something that isn't likely going to ever need that much space provided /var and /usr are on seperate partitons? Even if didn't put /var on it's own partition and only put /usr on it's own partiton you still wouldn't need that much space. Sorry for the misunderstanding. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Daryl Johnson wrote: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:15:27 - From: Daryl Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux partitioning Uh Mark you appear to have misread my post. I wasn't suggesting a 10Mb / but a 10Mb /root - a significant difference as I am sure you would agree. What I suggested was that / should be the remainder of the drive which I would expect to be anything from 2Gb upwards. I would also expect the suggestions I made to allow the system to run correctly, particularly if his hd is larger than 4Gb. regards Daryl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux partitioning Ok...but what does he do if he wants his system to run correctly? He's clearly going to need more room on "/" then 10MB. What about /etc, or /var which both have a tendency to "grow"...sometimes a lot. It also depends on what type of installation he wants to perform. [...] So : /swap = 2 times Ram (unless you have large amounts of Ram /home = 10Mb or more depending on number of users and what personal files/configurations they have /root = /10Mb say? / = the rest. [...]
Re: [newbie] Linux partitioning
Daryl Johnson wrote: It allows you to use several different kernels more easily. Some people have a need for it, some don't :o) regards Daryl :) the kernels don't get that big. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
RE: [newbie] Linux partitioning
Daryl, You're correct...I did miss that part. Could-a swore you were suggesting a 10MB /. However, why would you want to waste so much space on something that isn't likely going to ever need that much space provided /var and /usr are on seperate partitons? Even if didn't put /var on it's own partition and only put /usr on it's own partiton you still wouldn't need that much space. Sorry for the misunderstanding. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Daryl Johnson wrote: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:15:27 - From: Daryl Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux partitioning Uh Mark you appear to have misread my post. I wasn't suggesting a 10Mb / but a 10Mb /root - a significant difference as I am sure you would agree. What I suggested was that / should be the remainder of the drive which I would expect to be anything from 2Gb upwards. I would also expect the suggestions I made to allow the system to run correctly, particularly if his hd is larger than 4Gb. regards Daryl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux partitioning Ok...but what does he do if he wants his system to run correctly? He's clearly going to need more room on "/" then 10MB. What about /etc, or /var which both have a tendency to "grow"...sometimes a lot. It also depends on what type of installation he wants to perform. [...] So : /swap = 2 times Ram (unless you have large amounts of Ram /home = 10Mb or more depending on number of users and what personal files/configurations they have /root = /10Mb say? / = the rest. [...]
Re: [newbie] Linux partitioning
Gregg, What is the size of your drive cause if I understand you correctly your installation, if it installs at all, won't work very well. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Gregg Black wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:09:14 -0800 From: Gregg Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Linux partitioning I'm reading up on setting up linux, and it states that many will setup separate partitions for /usr and /home besides ones swap space. I would like to ask you how you usually setup your partitioning. I was a little bit confused on it, for you at least need a mounting point of root. This is how I did it, but I'm not sure if it's how it should be done. I set one partition for about 3/4 of the drive as '/'. I thought that would cover my separate partition for /usr as well as the mount point. My second partition and about 1/4 of the drive (not all, as the last is for swap) I set as mount point /home. Then of course the remaining 256 megs I set for swap. At first I was going to create a 7 meg partition just for mounting root, then the larger 3/4 approx for /usr, and then the last primary for /home but I thought it just made more sense to make just a / and /home partition. Maybe I'm just not thinking about this correctly. Any suggestions would be appreciated! I'm using mandrake 7.2 -Gregg
RE: [newbie] Linux partitioning
Thanks for all your help! -Gregg. I'll keep this in the keep folder for sure. On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Mark Weaver wrote: Ok...but what does he do if he wants his system to run correctly? He's clearly going to need more room on "/" then 10MB. What about /etc, or /var which both have a tendency to "grow"...sometimes a lot. It also depends on what type of installation he wants to perform. Lets assume that he's going for the whole thing. Doing a developer install requires quite a bit of space. Lets also assume that since he's real new at all this that he's going to use a very simple, basic partitioning scheme. Since a developer install requires 2.5GB of disk space we already know that /use is going to be large. As well as /lib. So, the layout might go something like this. Assuming we're installing on a 10GB drive and 128MB of RAM SWAP = 300MB # approximately 1 1/2 times the amount of RAM / = 500MB # the filesystem's root and mount point /home = 4GB /var = 1GB# this is planning for system growth which includes database # files /usr = 4GB This scheme should accomodate an installation for a newbie quite nicely and allow for growth over at least a years time until they're at the point where they can seriously look at change and modification. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Daryl Johnson wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:24:37 - From: Daryl Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux partitioning Hmmm, well, having answered this one already a few days ago it looks to me as though there may be some mileage in both a FAQ and an archive in a more formally structured ng. Anyway here goes. If you have 128Mb memory it seems like a good idea to make swap partition = double RAM. You certainly need a / partition, which can be pretty large and a /home partition for users and their assorted personal/mail files does no harm either. Say... anything from 10Mb upwards for /home? A /root partition is quite a good idea if you are going to be using more than one kernel. This one can be limited to say 10Mb. So : /swap = 2 times Ram (unless you have large amounts of Ram /home = 10Mb or more depending on number of users and what personal files/configurations they have /root = /10Mb say? / = the rest. From all the good things being said about reiser in this ng it is worth considering this format instead of ext2. Um oh yes, there is lots of information on this topic in already existing FAQs and Howtos. regards Daryl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gregg Black Sent: 25 February 2001 22:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Linux partitioning I'm reading up on setting up linux, and it states that many will setup separate partitions for /usr and /home besides ones swap space. I would like to ask you how you usually setup your partitioning. I was a little bit confused on it, for you at least need a mounting point of root. This is how I did it, but I'm not sure if it's how it should be done. I set one partition for about 3/4 of the drive as '/'. I thought that would cover my separate partition for /usr as well as the mount point. My second partition and about 1/4 of the drive (not all, as the last is for swap) I set as mount point /home. Then of course the remaining 256 megs I set for swap. At first I was going to create a 7 meg partition just for mounting root, then the larger 3/4 approx for /usr, and then the last primary for /home but I thought it just made more sense to make just a / and /home partition. Maybe I'm just not thinking about this correctly. Any suggestions would be appreciated! I'm using mandrake 7.2 -Gregg
RE: [newbie] Linux partitioning
Including my error where I refer to /root instead of /boot? scarlet blushes Well, I've been sick :o( regards Daryl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of blacksun Sent: 26 February 2001 20:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux partitioning Thanks for all your help! -Gregg. I'll keep this in the keep folder for sure. On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Mark Weaver wrote: Ok...but what does he do if he wants his system to run correctly? He's clearly going to need more room on "/" then 10MB. What about /etc, or /var which both have a tendency to "grow"...sometimes a lot. It also depends on what type of installation he wants to perform. Lets assume that he's going for the whole thing. Doing a developer install requires quite a bit of space. Lets also assume that since he's real new at all this that he's going to use a very simple, basic partitioning scheme. Since a developer install requires 2.5GB of disk space we already know that /use is going to be large. As well as /lib. So, the layout might go something like this. Assuming we're installing on a 10GB drive and 128MB of RAM SWAP = 300MB# approximately 1 1/2 times the amount of RAM / = 500MB # the filesystem's root and mount point /home = 4GB /var = 1GB # this is planning for system growth which includes database # files /usr = 4GB This scheme should accomodate an installation for a newbie quite nicely and allow for growth over at least a years time until they're at the point where they can seriously look at change and modification. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Daryl Johnson wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:24:37 - From: Daryl Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux partitioning Hmmm, well, having answered this one already a few days ago it looks to me as though there may be some mileage in both a FAQ and an archive in a more formally structured ng. Anyway here goes. If you have 128Mb memory it seems like a good idea to make swap partition = double RAM. You certainly need a / partition, which can be pretty large and a /home partition for users and their assorted personal/mail files does no harm either. Say... anything from 10Mb upwards for /home? A /root partition is quite a good idea if you are going to be using more than one kernel. This one can be limited to say 10Mb. So : /swap = 2 times Ram (unless you have large amounts of Ram /home = 10Mb or more depending on number of users and what personal files/configurations they have /root = /10Mb say? / = the rest. From all the good things being said about reiser in this ng it is worth considering this format instead of ext2. Um oh yes, there is lots of information on this topic in already existing FAQs and Howtos. regards Daryl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gregg Black Sent: 25 February 2001 22:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Linux partitioning I'm reading up on setting up linux, and it states that many will setup separate partitions for /usr and /home besides ones swap space. I would like to ask you how you usually setup your partitioning. I was a little bit confused on it, for you at least need a mounting point of root. This is how I did it, but I'm not sure if it's how it should be done. I set one partition for about 3/4 of the drive as '/'. I thought that would cover my separate partition for /usr as well as the mount point. My second partition and about 1/4 of the drive (not all, as the last is for swap) I set as mount point /home. Then of course the remaining 256 megs I set for swap. At first I was going to create a 7 meg partition just for mounting root, then the larger 3/4 approx for /usr, and then the last primary for /home but I thought it just made more sense to make just a / and /home partition. Maybe I'm just not thinking about this correctly. Any suggestions would be appreciated! I'm using mandrake 7.2 -Gregg
Re: [newbie] Linux partitioning
the swap file should never be more than 128meg in size...actually smaller if you have more than 128 mb of ram! you can do a complete install with as little as one / partition and one swap file! on my current setup I have / ,/home, and swap as my partitions mandrake does the rest Gregg Black wrote: I'm reading up on setting up linux, and it states that many will setup separate partitions for /usr and /home besides ones swap space. I would like to ask you how you usually setup your partitioning. I was a little bit confused on it, for you at least need a mounting point of root. This is how I did it, but I'm not sure if it's how it should be done. I set one partition for about 3/4 of the drive as '/'. I thought that would cover my separate partition for /usr as well as the mount point. My second partition and about 1/4 of the drive (not all, as the last is for swap) I set as mount point /home. Then of course the remaining 256 megs I set for swap. At first I was going to create a 7 meg partition just for mounting root, then the larger 3/4 approx for /usr, and then the last primary for /home but I thought it just made more sense to make just a / and /home partition. Maybe I'm just not thinking about this correctly. Any suggestions would be appreciated! I'm using mandrake 7.2 -Gregg
RE: [newbie] Linux partitioning
Hmmm, well, having answered this one already a few days ago it looks to me as though there may be some mileage in both a FAQ and an archive in a more formally structured ng. Anyway here goes. If you have 128Mb memory it seems like a good idea to make swap partition = double RAM. You certainly need a / partition, which can be pretty large and a /home partition for users and their assorted personal/mail files does no harm either. Say... anything from 10Mb upwards for /home? A /root partition is quite a good idea if you are going to be using more than one kernel. This one can be limited to say 10Mb. So : /swap = 2 times Ram (unless you have large amounts of Ram /home = 10Mb or more depending on number of users and what personal files/configurations they have /root = /10Mb say? / = the rest. From all the good things being said about reiser in this ng it is worth considering this format instead of ext2. Um oh yes, there is lots of information on this topic in already existing FAQs and Howtos. regards Daryl -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gregg BlackSent: 25 February 2001 22:09To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] Linux partitioningI'm reading up on setting up linux, and it states that many will setup separate partitions for /usr and /home besides ones swap space. I would like to ask you how you usually setup your partitioning. I was a little bit confused on it, for you at least need a mounting point of root. This is how I did it, but I'm not sure if it's how it should be done. I set one partition for about 3/4 of the drive as '/'. I thought that would cover my separate partition for /usr as well as the mount point. My second partition and about 1/4 of the drive (not all, as the last is for swap) I set as mount point /home. Then of course the remaining 256 megs I set for swap.At first I was going to create a 7 meg partition just for mounting root, then the larger 3/4 approx for /usr, and then the last primary for /home but I thought it just made more sense to make just a / and /home partition. Maybe I'm just not thinking about this correctly. Any suggestions would be appreciated!I'm using mandrake 7.2-Gregg
