Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
Craig Williamson (ENZ) wrote: Hi All, I had this trouble with 3D shapes. If you have OpenGL turned on and are using an nVidia card (with latest drivers), this will cause the problem you have described. I found by turning off OpenGL in OpenOffice fixed the problem for me. Hope this helps. Craig -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 22 November, 2002 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice On Thursday 21 Nov 2002 5:55 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Joe Braddock wrote: To insert a picture into an OO document, use the Insert==Graphics==From File menu. Works like a charm. Joeb Then I think there must be something wrong with my settings. I go insert-graphics-from file menu - up comes a window, I direct to .jpeg file, click open and a square with 6 small green markers to the parimiter appears but no photo. Any thoughts ? I think this one is a setting, too, John. There is one somewhere to show or hide graphics - to speed up handling of large documents. Check through all the settings you can find. Anne Ok, yes I too have a Nvidia card , geforce3, I went to tools-options - view -3dview | unticked | use OpenGL Closed app. (just in case it needs to reload) repeat Insert==Graphics==From - File menu. etc still rectangle with 6 green sqare dots. No picture. Is this the same setting as you describe or have I chosen wrong ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
Craig Williamson (ENZ) wrote: Hi All, I had this trouble with 3D shapes. If you have OpenGL turned on and are using an nVidia card (with latest drivers), this will cause the problem you have described. I found by turning off OpenGL in OpenOffice fixed the problem for me. Hope this helps. Craig -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 22 November, 2002 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice On Thursday 21 Nov 2002 5:55 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Joe Braddock wrote: To insert a picture into an OO document, use the Insert==Graphics==From File menu. Works like a charm. Joeb Then I think there must be something wrong with my settings. I go insert-graphics-from file menu - up comes a window, I direct to .jpeg file, click open and a square with 6 small green markers to the parimiter appears but no photo. Any thoughts ? I think this one is a setting, too, John. There is one somewhere to show or hide graphics - to speed up handling of large documents. Check through all the settings you can find. Anne I found the problem, It's toots - options - view - display | tick | graphics + Objects Now pictures display, cannot think why that is not the default. So as far as I can tell to date, remember I've only been around OOword a few days, the only function it does not seem to have is the chapter,paragraph, sub paragraph etc numbering feature that kword has. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
* John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [021120 09:19]: I would like to ask of you all your opinion and experience of Open Ofice as supplied my Mandrake 9.0 , and installed in the main mandrake installer. Besides the issue of spellcheckers which we have heard of recently, is there a completeM9.0 OO install, because for the life of me I cannot find a spreadsheet. I have the 9.0 install of OOo at home, but use the download from OOo at school. Both launch the spreadsheet just fine. I know the download version of OO has a spreadsheet programme but as far as I can see this mandrake supplied install which does have nice kstartmenu entries built into the install, does not. What are you trying to use to start it? If you can get OOo Writer open, click File, New, Spreadsheet and see if it opens. If you are in an X window, you can start a terminal, and type: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/scalc and wait at least a minute before you give up. If these things work then you can set up menu items if they somehow didn't get made. If not it was a faulty installation. -- Jan Wilson, SysAdmin _/*]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Corozal Junior College | |:' corozal.com corozal.bz Corozal Town, Belize | /' chetumal.com linux.bz Reg. Linux user #151611 |_/ Network, PHP, Perl, HTML Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
Jan Wilson wrote: * John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [021120 09:19]: I would like to ask of you all your opinion and experience of Open Ofice as supplied my Mandrake 9.0 , and installed in the main mandrake installer. Besides the issue of spellcheckers which we have heard of recently, is there a completeM9.0 OO install, because for the life of me I cannot find a spreadsheet. I have the 9.0 install of OOo at home, but use the download from OOo at school. Both launch the spreadsheet just fine. I know the download version of OO has a spreadsheet programme but as far as I can see this mandrake supplied install which does have nice kstartmenu entries built into the install, does not. What are you trying to use to start it? If you can get OOo Writer open, click File, New, Spreadsheet and see if it opens. If you are in an X window, you can start a terminal, and type: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/scalc and wait at least a minute before you give up. If these things work then you can set up menu items if they somehow didn't get made. If not it was a faulty installation. Thanks Jan, I boobed. I thought OOcalc was a calculator. I never thought it might of been a spreadsheet. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
Joe Braddock wrote: To insert a picture into an OO document, use the Insert==Graphics==From File menu. Works like a charm. Joeb Then I think there must be something wrong with my settings. I go insert-graphics-from file menu - up comes a window, I direct to .jpeg file, click open and a square with 6 small green markers to the parimiter appears but no photo. Any thoughts ? Another question, Can OOwrite keep control of chapters,paragraphs,,subparagraphs, etc etc, and number them automatically like kword (and as it happens Klyx), and when required insert a new chapter etc and alter the numbering as well ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
Title: RE: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice Hi All, I had this trouble with 3D shapes. If you have OpenGL turned on and are using an nVidia card (with latest drivers), this will cause the problem you have described. I found by turning off OpenGL in OpenOffice fixed the problem for me. Hope this helps. Craig -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 22 November, 2002 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice On Thursday 21 Nov 2002 5:55 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Joe Braddock wrote: To insert a picture into an OO document, use the Insert==Graphics==From File menu. Works like a charm. Joeb Then I think there must be something wrong with my settings. I go insert-graphics-from file menu - up comes a window, I direct to .jpeg file, click open and a square with 6 small green markers to the parimiter appears but no photo. Any thoughts ? I think this one is a setting, too, John. There is one somewhere to show or hide graphics - to speed up handling of large documents. Check through all the settings you can find. Anne
Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
John, Besides the issue of spellcheckers which we have heard of recently, is there a completeM9.0 OO install, because for the life of me I cannot find a spreadsheet. Yes, there certainly is a complete install. What happens when you type oocalc Enter in a terminal? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 2:03 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: I would like to ask of you all your opinion and experience of Open Ofice as supplied my Mandrake 9.0 , and installed in the main mandrake installer. Besides the issue of spellcheckers which we have heard of recently, is there a completeM9.0 OO install, because for the life of me I cannot find a spreadsheet. It installed on mine without problems. I know the download version of OO has a spreadsheet programme but as far as I can see this mandrake supplied install which does have nice kstartmenu entries built into the install, does not. My menus have office spreadsheets gnumeric, KSpread, OpenOffice.org.calc, Star Office Calc and a similar set for word processors. plus many other modules. I don't know what went wrong with yours. Is it worth uninstalling and trying again? Anne BTW - I haven't checked out the spellchecker problem yet. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
Miark wrote: John, Besides the issue of spellcheckers which we have heard of recently, is there a completeM9.0 OO install, because for the life of me I cannot find a spreadsheet. Yes, there certainly is a complete install. What happens when you type oocalc Enter in a terminal? Miark Definately my goof of the week. I thought that was a claculator, OOps. (excuse the pun). But anyway, how do you feel about it, is it all there , does the spreadsheet work as well as excell, what about the word processor, does it work as well as kword. Give me expreiences please,your likes and dislikes, how it works,what are the quirky things, does it import files from other spreadsheets easily. Recently I imported a kspread file as a commer seperated list into gnumeric, and found out the hard way that all you get is a big list of text based numbers, no formatting and more importantly no formulars, and that can be time consuming and finickety redoing it all over again when you have a large display to go over. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
John Richard Smith wrote: But anyway, how do you feel about it, is it all there , does the spreadsheet work as well as excell, what about the word processor, does it work as well as kword. Give me expreiences please,your likes and dislikes, how it works,what are the quirky things, does it import files from other spreadsheets easily. Recently I imported a kspread file as a commer seperated list into gnumeric, and found out the hard way that all you get is a big list of text based numbers, no formatting and more importantly no formulars, and that can be time consuming and finickety redoing it all over again when you have a large display to go over. My experience is that it works fine in all important respects. I can't say if it works as well as KWord, since I gave up on that particular app a few years back. No problems importing from Excell or exporting to it (which is very important for me, as I keep student grades in OOCalc, but need to submit them in a standard Excell template). As for Word, there are occasional formatting glitches, but it seems to work better than most import filters. I use it frequently for converting Word documents to HTML or PDF format - the results aren't as nice as what you'd get with output from, say, LyX, but then LyX (or rather wv) has problems importing some Word documents, and it will also alter the layout radically (by improving it radically) which you may not always want. So yes, if you want a good all-round office suite with MS compatibility, OO is the best choice from the Open Source alternatives. OTOH, if you want to write beautifully typeset documents with a minimum of fuss, I'd still recommend LyX, unless you have very complex or idiosyncratic layout requirements. Sir Robin -- Do unto others what you would like others to do unto you. And have fun doing it. - Linus Torvalds Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent University Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.0 and OpenOffice
Robin Turner wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: But anyway, how do you feel about it, is it all there , does the spreadsheet work as well as excell, what about the word processor, does it work as well as kword. Give me expreiences please,your likes and dislikes, how it works,what are the quirky things, does it import files from other spreadsheets easily. Recently I imported a kspread file as a commer seperated list into gnumeric, and found out the hard way that all you get is a big list of text based numbers, no formatting and more importantly no formulars, and that can be time consuming and finickety redoing it all over again when you have a large display to go over. My experience is that it works fine in all important respects. I can't say if it works as well as KWord, since I gave up on that particular app a few years back. No problems importing from Excell or exporting to it (which is very important for me, as I keep student grades in OOCalc, but need to submit them in a standard Excell template). As for Word, there are occasional formatting glitches, but it seems to work better than most import filters. I use it frequently for converting Word documents to HTML or PDF format - the results aren't as nice as what you'd get with output from, say, LyX, but then LyX (or rather wv) has problems importing some Word documents, and it will also alter the layout radically (by improving it radically) which you may not always want. So yes, if you want a good all-round office suite with MS compatibility, OO is the best choice from the Open Source alternatives. OTOH, if you want to write beautifully typeset documents with a minimum of fuss, I'd still recommend LyX, unless you have very complex or idiosyncratic layout requirements. Sir Robin That is helpful. I leave lyx and klyx to latec experts , and since I'm not one, I stand no chance of creating my own templates. However , just playing around with OOword a bit this afternoon, one thing that struck me about it, I didn't seem able to import pictures, like I can in kword, where one could say one is into desktop publishing, and I certainly enjoy creating my own multifacited layout montages for home pics. As I say I've only looked at it briefly so I could be dead wrong here but it seems to me OOword is capable but not as far reaching as say kword is today. On the otherhand OOcalc which surely ought to of been called OOspreadsheet, does seem a quite advance app of it's type, as I say I have not done much with it and so I cannot tell how it compares with excell for capability but as far as I can tell it is fully as useable as kspread and far far leaner and faster on the loading and saving stakes than kspread. I don't know whether OOcalc can do those fancy folding column jobs that excell can do, you know where you can set up a sort of spreadsheet within a spreadsheet to take care of some sub calculation reqirement,that you don't particularly want shown on the front sheet. How does OOcalc compare with excell all round ? Anyone with loads of experience with both ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
