Re: [newbie] To American readers (slightly OT)
Well Barbara, I took the liberty of posting this to the newbie list, where you first posted,. add also to the Mandrake Offtopic list, where we discuss things not realted to making Mandrake Linux the best Distribution possible, and also you might consider, Virus free. On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 06:55, Barbara A Wilson wrote: we never maintain any server of our own for mail for our domains. all mails are forwarded from the registrar to a catch all account. you are responsible for all servers under the domain you pay for. YOU are the RESPONSIBLE party. the servers belonged to YOU. i don't know why you can't talk decently. I don't know why you can take responsibility for things you are paying for. that would be a decent start. we only receive inbound mail and don't send any outbound email except from our ISP account. they were your servers. period. they were M$ servers. Period. they were not properly configured and were damaging other peoples stuff. period. By your short sighted logic... If I drain my pool, and the water runs into your living room and ruins your carpet, because I bought my pool from some one else, and I also bought the hose at some store. so it must be the people who built the pool and the drain hose. it can not be _MY_ fault for not reading the instructions that say don't drain into the neighbors living room. Barbara and Robin - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Barbara A Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] To American readers (slightly OT) On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:05, Barbara A Wilson wrote: i just read a 2002 post on a message board regarding a domain i own that was falsely accused of spamming during 2002: not Falsely, and not spam, you meathead. It was for not securing your servers. here is the quote of the 'original post' if you think being called a meathead is so offensive, try fixing your servers, and then I won't consider you a meathead. am suddenly getting various virus/worms sent to me (Klez, Septic) viewing headers shows a common pattern, they all contain smtp-server.tampabayr.com I take it a web ?Master? like yourself should by now be able to tell the difference between spam and virus but I guess in a fat head like your's case, the difference might take more light to see than get in around your head. Tampabayr.com a misspell of tampabay.rr.com (in the Time Warner Roadrunner system). i also own Tampabayrr.com, but only the single R variety was involved as a (false) return address last year. and none of those address is likely to send any spam? tell us all, in an open forum, why you need those particular web addresses if not to confuse people. I would be willing to bet that if roadrunner thought for a second you were attempting to confuse people into sending you money and not AOL-Time/Warner, there would (and imho, should) be a sheriff at your door about 10pm to serve papers. No answer here??? No answer here??? i live in florida, but also maintain a home in Canada, as my significant other is Canadian why do you think anyone here give a $hit. No answer here. so where do you pay income tax? or do you just travel to the best government services what is your point in including that bit of info? No answer here. i did a Google.com search on my admin telephone number, which i chose the FL number to display even though our more permanent Canadian address is also in the admin contact info for our domains: 863-421-8959 why not spend the time learning about how to secure your servers and run some legitimate business, instead of 'ego surfing' i did not see, but you can pick up on what the message board involved you in saying, by entering the numbers (and dashes) at google... I am pretty sure no one would take back their words. and even tho I was not involved, the 'message board' did not involve anyone. we involved the message board. if you had been using a linux box, we would not have ever had your domain names brought up, so do NOT blame anyone other than your own laziness. immediately your post will come up to review. i have no way to go backwards in those posts--so have no idea what the original request was If you would open your eyes and read (this seems to be a repeating theme with you) you would see that you can follow the thread and back trace to the beginning or see the whole thread or read 'chronological'. Bob Bergemann and Barbara Wilson someone professes to know us somehow. no one other than WHOIS. this is public info on the net, that almost any other web?master? would know about. i seriously doubt that, as we are very private individuals with a highly controlled and limited social/business circle
Re: [newbie] To American readers (slightly OT)
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 04:33 pm, ed tharp wrote: Well Barbara, I took the liberty of posting this to the newbie list, where you first posted,. add also to the Mandrake Offtopic list, where we discuss things not realted to making Mandrake Linux the best Distribution possible, and also you might consider, Virus free. On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 06:55, Barbara A Wilson wrote: we never maintain any server of our own for mail for our domains. all mails are forwarded from the registrar to a catch all account. you are responsible for all servers under the domain you pay for. YOU are the RESPONSIBLE party. the servers belonged to YOU. Not sure that this attitude is all that surprising for someone using MS software on a server. If they don't take enough responsibility to learn enough about computers to run a secure operating system on a computer, they certainly won't learn enough to take responsibility for operating a server. I still think meathead is a pretty kind compliment, in this case. anyone else care to input? Probably just a waste of time. They aren't actually seeking knowledge or answers, merely someone to prop up their egos and tell them its not their fault. Come to think of it, they should have just called Microsoft. Then they could have just rebooted the server and told everyone it was fixed. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] To American readers (slightly OT)
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 18:00:43 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: we never maintain any server of our own for mail for our domains. all mails are forwarded from the registrar to a catch all account. you are responsible for all servers under the domain you pay for. YOU are the RESPONSIBLE party. the servers belonged to YOU. Not sure that this attitude is all that surprising for someone using MS software on a server. If they don't take enough responsibility to learn enough about computers to run a secure operating system on a computer, they certainly won't learn enough to take responsibility for operating a server. I still think meathead is a pretty kind compliment, in this case. anyone else care to input? Probably just a waste of time. They aren't actually seeking knowledge or answers, merely someone to prop up their egos and tell them its not their fault. Come to think of it, they should have just called Microsoft. Then they could have just rebooted the server and told everyone it was fixed. What did I miss here, seems like quite a tiff. I am quite, er, proficient at making people nuts, anyone I ought to target for my own special brand of treatment? ;-) -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ It will be advantageous to cross the great stream ... the Dragon is on the wing in the Sky ... the Great Man rouses himself to his Work. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] To American readers (slightly OT)
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 06:33, ed tharp wrote: I still think meathead is a pretty kind compliment, in this case. anyone else care to input? Yeah, meathead works nicely. stephen kuhn == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * - Make headway at work. Continue to let things deteriorate at home. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] To American readers (slightly OT)
On Thursday 06 June 2002 01:52 am, FemmeFatale wrote: poogle wrote: I am suddenly getting various virus/worms sent to me (Klez, Septic) viewing headers shows a common pattern, they all contain smtp-server.tampabayr.com a visit the www.tampabayr.com gets redirected to what appears to be a militant organisation concerned with nuking people. I'm curios, is this a well known organisation in the U.S ? very likely his webservers' been compromised by a zombie bot thats scanning for IP addresses or just scanning for email addys *ya complicated* to gather info send out virii. Given that the responses are generally never heard of it this appears to be most likely. shrugs happens all the time now I get hit every once in a while by it. If you want to read more, email me pvtly I'll dig up some sites on how it works Thanks for the offer but my curiosity is sufficiently satisfied now, I'll just continue to be grateful that I'm Windows free as apparently there are some variants of these worms that trash virus scanners as soon as they are downloaded and as I download 100+ e mails a day it would be easy for one to sneak through and destroy a Windows installation. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] To American readers (slightly OT)
poogle wrote: I am suddenly getting various virus/worms sent to me (Klez, Septic) viewing headers shows a common pattern, they all contain smtp-server.tampabayr.com a visit the www.tampabayr.com gets redirected to what appears to be a militant organisation concerned with nuking people. I'm curios, is this a well known organisation in the U.S ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Nope First I heard of it. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] To American readers (slightly OT)
Never heard of it. Jeanie -Original Message- From: civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] To American readers (slightly OT) poogle wrote: I am suddenly getting various virus/worms sent to me (Klez, Septic) viewing headers shows a common pattern, they all contain smtp-server.tampabayr.com a visit the www.tampabayr.com gets redirected to what appears to be a militant organisation concerned with nuking people. I'm curios, is this a well known organisation in the U.S ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] To American readers (slightly OT)
poogle wrote: I am suddenly getting various virus/worms sent to me (Klez, Septic) viewing headers shows a common pattern, they all contain smtp-server.tampabayr.com a visit the www.tampabayr.com gets redirected to what appears to be a militant organisation concerned with nuking people. I'm curios, is this a well known organisation in the U.S ? very likely his webservers' been compromised by a zombie bot thats scanning for IP addresses or just scanning for email addys *ya complicated* to gather info send out virii. shrugs happens all the time now I get hit every once in a while by it. If you want to read more, email me pvtly I'll dig up some sites on how it works -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] To American readers (slightly OT)
well a WHOIS on TAMPABAYR.COM gets Domain name: TAMPABAYR.COM Registrant Info: TAMPA BAY READY RESPONSES J. LEHST PUBLISHING ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 863-967-7527 FAX: none Box 269164 CHICAGO, IL 60626 US (note 863 area code ain't Chicago I don't believe, see later whois) Billing, Administrative Info: TAMPA BAY READY RESPONSES J. LEHST PUBLISHING ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 863-967-7527 FAX: none Box 269164 CHICAGO, IL 60626 US Technical Info: TAMPA BAY READY RESPONSES J. LEHST PUBLISHING ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 863-967-7527 FAX: none Box 269164 CHICAGO, IL 60626 US on that page (www.tampabayr.com) there is an e-mail for the webpage for the ?(c)2001 (guess if he could write html it might look like copy in the HTML grin) and to WHOIS that name brings back; J. LEHST PUBLISHING R.G. BERGEMANN ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 863-421-8959 BOX 322 HAINES CITY, FL 33845-0322 US Billing, Administrative Contact- J. LEHST PUBLISHING R.G. BERGEMANN ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 863-421-8959 BOX 322 HAINES CITY, FL 33845-0322 US Technical Contact- J. LEHST PUBLISHING R.G. BERGEMANN ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 863-421-8959 BOX 322 HAINES CITY, FL 33845-0322 US and as you might a noticed in the first whois, synergisticservicessyndicate.com is given as the domain for the contact,, (good old Robert (Bob) G. Bergeman) and the whois for them: Registration Service Provided By: Free Boost Web Services Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit: http://www.freeboost.com Domain name: SYNERGISTICSERVICESSYNDICATE.COM Registrant Contact: J. LEHST PUBLISHING R.G. BERGEMANN ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 863-421-8959 BOX 322 HAINES CITY, FL 33845-0322 US Billing, Administrative Contact: J. LEHST PUBLISHING R.G. BERGEMANN ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 863-421-8959 BOX 322 HAINES CITY, FL 33845-0322 US Technical Contact: J. LEHST PUBLISHING R.G. BERGEMANN ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 863-421-8959 BOX 322 HAINES CITY, FL 33845-0322 US On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:52 pm, you wrote: poogle wrote: I am suddenly getting various virus/worms sent to me (Klez, Septic) viewing headers shows a common pattern, they all contain smtp-server.tampabayr.com a visit the www.tampabayr.com gets redirected to what appears to be a militant organisation concerned with nuking people. I'm curios, is this a well known organisation in the U.S ? very likely his webservers' been compromised by a zombie bot thats scanning for IP addresses or just scanning for email addys *ya complicated* to gather info send out virii. shrugs happens all the time now I get hit every once in a while by it. If you want to read more, email me pvtly I'll dig up some sites on how it works Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
