RE: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?
Melissa Reese wrote: Before I boot back into Mandrake to do a bit more tweaking, I'd like to know if there's a *simple as possible* tutorial somewhere for setting up Wine and installing a program into (onto?) it? The tutorials I've found so far seem to assume that I'm already comfortable with the idea of manually creating/editing configuration files in Linux...which I'm not. Unfortunately, Wine is alpha software. There is a lot of documentation, but setting up Wine (if it doesn't just work for you immediately) is considered an advanced Linux skill. At this point, there's just one Windows program I'd like to see if I can get to work under Wine (MessageCleaner). If I can get that set up to work in my Mandrake installation, it will, at the very least, give me a little extra time to get used to some of the Linux text editors and/or email/news clients and still be able to do a few specific things with certain types of text formatting/re-formatting of email and news group messages. I agree with Scott. Check out http://appdb.winehq.com and see if anyone else has gotten MessageCleaner to work. Also, you might want to join the wine users mailing list and ask if anyone there has gotten it working. If someone has, they may be able to give you pointers on how to get yours working. http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-users Also, start with the latest wine release which includes the latest winesetuptk. A lot of stuff will be immediately configured for you and give you a leg up on the process. The latest wine binaries for Mandrake are located at the following address. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6241 deedee Registered Linux User #327485 Visit WordStar GNU/Linux http://www.wordstar2.com Also, see WordStar Users Group http://www.wordstar2.com/cbabbage/wordstar __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?
Melissa- Have you checked the Wine list to see if that program is supported? -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melissa Reese Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 2:02 PM To: MDK Newbie Subject: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Before I boot back into Mandrake to do a bit more tweaking, I'd like to know if there's a *simple as possible* tutorial somewhere for setting up Wine and installing a program into (onto?) it? The tutorials I've found so far seem to assume that I'm already comfortable with the idea of manually creating/editing configuration files in Linux...which I'm not. At this point, there's just one Windows program I'd like to see if I can get to work under Wine (MessageCleaner). If I can get that set up to work in my Mandrake installation, it will, at the very least, give me a little extra time to get used to some of the Linux text editors and/or email/news clients and still be able to do a few specific things with certain types of text formatting/re-formatting of email and news group messages. So...are there any good Wine for *Complete Dummies* tutorials out there you could recommend? Thanks! - -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/1MqTjVbXUvsE8ukRAv22AKCpJ9SIPXDr53I8+qwvTfg2vbSg0ACdHcNJ IfR0r96Xfq0mJpBhwHgEGlM= =jUs5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Scott, On Monday, December 08, 2003, at 11:05:49 AM PST, you wrote: Have you checked the Wine list to see if that program is supported? I didn't see it listed there, but thought I'd give it a try anyway. How else will I know if it can work or not? Or, must each program be specifically addressed by the writers of Wine before it even has a chance of working? - -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/1NEMjVbXUvsE8ukRAm9UAJwOaSIzTntT3znpQhawMdhyIrqGKwCgzIvZ 9rUPQint01Q1S59a7oaSQIk= =KKKB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?
Hi Melissa- I didn't see it listed there, but thought I'd give it a try anyway. How else will I know if it can work or not? Or, must each program be specifically addressed by the writers of Wine before it even has a chance of working? What does MessageCleaner do? I am not familiar with it? In answer to your question: there is always a chance that it may work even if it is not on the list. -Scott Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Scott, On Monday, December 08, 2003, at 11:38:51 AM PST, you wrote: What does MessageCleaner do? Here's the MC site, which describes the various things it does: http://www.roundhillsoftware.com/MessageCleaner/ My regular Windows email client (The Bat!) does all that and more, so I only use MC with my news reader, because my Windows news reader (Forté Agent), while being pretty good in general, doesn't have a very capable message editor. I may well find some or all of these features in the various Linux email/news clients and text editors, but until I get to know all that they're capable of, I still want to be able to deal with message composition in email and news in a way more to my liking...hence wanting to be able to use a utility like MessageCleaner at the moment. - -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/1NYmjVbXUvsE8ukRAv13AJ91+JjczOyL6fTVrtlC+9PRRRlGVwCcCKZm T46EoBC31sWmVYR0GvCtJT8= =uSx8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?
On Monday 08 December 2003 02:01 pm, Melissa Reese wrote: Hi, Before I boot back into Mandrake to do a bit more tweaking, I'd like to know if there's a *simple as possible* tutorial somewhere for setting up Wine and installing a program into (onto?) it? The tutorials I've found so far seem to assume that I'm already comfortable with the idea of manually creating/editing configuration files in Linux...which I'm not. Well, Mandrake comes with a wine RPM, you should just need to use the Install Software link, find wine and install it. Once you do, it should install a daemon called wineserver that should automatically pick up any .exe file that you run. You may need to edit your wine config file to actually point to your CD drive among other things, but since those settings are dependent on your system, I am not sure that there is such a thing as an easy howto to tell you how to do it. I can help you get the config setup by asking for pertinent info and sending you a copy of the proper settings to use. If you just want a sample, I can send you a copy of mine offlist, just so that you can go through and see what the settings look like but installing the RPM should get you pretty close to where you need to be. Other options would be to buy Crossover Office or WineX since both include installation routines and have built in installers for applications. So...are there any good Wine for *Complete Dummies* tutorials out there you could recommend? Thanks! My personal recommendation would be to just install the RPM and see where you are at and move on from there. You might be surprised at how quickly you can get it going by just installing the RPM and making a few minor changes to the /home/user/.wine/config file. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?
Melissa- I use PAN as my newsreader and I will check out what it can/can't do. Googling for pan message cleaner brings up all kinds of things for the kitchen :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melissa Reese Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 2:51 PM To: Scott St. John Subject: Re: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Scott, I may well find some or all of these features in the various Linux email/news clients and text editors, but until I get to know all that they're capable of, I still want to be able to deal with message composition in email and news in a way more to my liking...hence wanting to be able to use a utility like MessageCleaner at the moment. - -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/1NYmjVbXUvsE8ukRAv13AJ91+JjczOyL6fTVrtlC+9PRRRlGVwCcCKZm T46EoBC31sWmVYR0GvCtJT8= =uSx8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 08 December 2003 12:09 pm, Scott St. John wrote: Googling for pan message cleaner brings up all kinds of things for the kitchen :) Hee hee! I already have a dishwasher, and I'm pretty sure it'll run under both Linux and Windows (maybe even Wine!). - -- Melissa -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/1OEXjVbXUvsE8ukRAvriAJ0RPIGNW8kDojrRbC3speviJ8qs9ACgt4/9 RL6Bi0PrnoooGvwXIMlKqfM= =l/vt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 19:01, Melissa Reese wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Before I boot back into Mandrake to do a bit more tweaking, I'd like to know if there's a *simple as possible* tutorial somewhere for setting up Wine and installing a program into (onto?) it? The tutorials I've found so far seem to assume that I'm already comfortable with the idea of manually creating/editing configuration files in Linux...which I'm not. At this point, there's just one Windows program I'd like to see if I can get to work under Wine (MessageCleaner). If I can get that set up to work in my Mandrake installation, it will, at the very least, give me a little extra time to get used to some of the Linux text editors and/or email/news clients and still be able to do a few specific things with certain types of text formatting/re-formatting of email and news group messages. So...are there any good Wine for *Complete Dummies* tutorials out there you could recommend? Thanks! - -- Melissa Melissa, I installed Wine last week and used the most recent package that I downloaded from sourceforge: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6241 Click link 20031118 to read how to install. The configuration program winesetuptk is included in the mdk package, so if you follow the instruction on the sourceforge you will be able to install and do a basic configuration. You might also want to check out Crossover Office at url http://www.codeweavers.com/site/products/cxoffice/?cw=6dd67914bcd0018829a95261e100bf6b I tried the trail version and I think it's excellent. Very easy to use. Good luck, Marco -- Tell me about these oppressed masses. What's got them so worked up ? They're upset, sir, because they are so poor that they are forced to have children merely to provide a cheap alternative to turkey at Christmas. Registered Linux user #268279 * This message is composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
