Re: [newbie] Gnome Search

2003-01-16 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 16 Jan 2003 1:54 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 January 2003 05:15 pm, RichardA wrote:
  On Wednesday 15 January 2003 03:43, Michael Adams wrote:
   On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:25, RichardA wrote:
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 08:53, Tom Brinkman wrote:
[snip]
   
 or by anacron when you
 boot (if that's installed, I don't believe it is by default).
   
If anacron isn't installed by default, what happens to cron jobs like
logrotate if the machine is never on at that time?
   
Richard
  
   Logrotate won't get run and the log files will just keep growing.
   --
   Michael
 
  # service -s | grep anacron
  # anacron is running...
 
  Well I'm ok on 8.2, but if someone installs 9.0:
 
  - where space is tight
  - on one partition
  - only boots during the day
 
  it's guaranteed one day not to boot?
 
  Richard

 Somebody correct me if I'm all wet, but I understood that the logrotate
 would run at the next bootup if it was shut down during it's scheduled
 time. How do we findout?


Cron assumes the computer is powered on all the time. It does not check for 
jobs which have not been run. There is another app called anacron to check up 
on jobs cron has missed.

urpmi anacron

Anacron was installed by default in 8.2 but was taken out in 9.0 because 
people whined about their hard drive going crazy 5 minutes after they powered 
on their computer.

derek
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Re: [newbie] Gnome Search

2003-01-16 Thread RichardA
On Thursday 16 January 2003 02:04, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  Somebody correct me if I'm all wet, but I understood that the logrotate 
would 
  run at the next bootup if it was shut down during it's scheduled time. How 
do 
  we findout?
 
 
 
 It SHOULD run at next bootup - but you never really know - unless you
 try.
 

Aren't we going in circles here? If logrotate runs at next boot, it's because 
anacron runs it. If there is no anacron by default in 9.0, then in one 
particular set of circumstances, the computer will eventually fail to boot.

Someone please tell me I'm wrong (and why).

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Re: [newbie] Gnome Search

2003-01-16 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 07:57, RichardA wrote:
 On Thursday 16 January 2003 02:04, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
   Somebody correct me if I'm all wet, but I understood that the logrotate 
 would 
   run at the next bootup if it was shut down during it's scheduled time. How 
 do 
   we findout?
  
  
  
  It SHOULD run at next bootup - but you never really know - unless you
  try.
  
 
 Aren't we going in circles here? If logrotate runs at next boot, it's because 
 anacron runs it. If there is no anacron by default in 9.0, then in one 
 particular set of circumstances, the computer will eventually fail to boot.
 
 Someone please tell me I'm wrong (and why).
 
 Richard

Maybe I came late in the thread, but you SHOULD ALWAYS have anacron
installed - it's a must have.

...and you're not wrong...just partly right (g)

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Re: [newbie] Gnome Search

2003-01-15 Thread RichardA
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 03:43, Michael Adams wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:25, RichardA wrote:
  On Tuesday 14 January 2003 08:53, Tom Brinkman wrote:
  [snip]
 
   or by anacron when you
   boot (if that's installed, I don't believe it is by default).
 
  If anacron isn't installed by default, what happens to cron jobs like
  logrotate if the machine is never on at that time?
 
  Richard
 
 Logrotate won't get run and the log files will just keep growing.
 -- 
 Michael
 

# service -s | grep anacron
# anacron is running...

Well I'm ok on 8.2, but if someone installs 9.0:

- where space is tight
- on one partition
- only boots during the day

it's guaranteed one day not to boot?

Richard


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Re: [newbie] Gnome Search

2003-01-14 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday January 14 2003 07:56 am, Rich wrote:
 I've used the Gnome Search tool since Mandrake 8.0 but have run
 into a problem since installing version 9.0.  It ran OK for awhile,
 but now an error message pops up whenever I run a search that the
 slocate.db database is more than 8 days old.  I thought that this
 database is supposed to update every time the system boots and I've
 been running 9.0 since a month after it came out. What's going on?

   Misguided (IMO) user complaints of 'HDD trashing' convinced the 
developers to extend the update period. It was done nightly in =8.2, 
either by cron if your machine runs over night or by anacron when you 
boot (if that's installed, I don't believe it is by default).

   Easiest thing to do is su to root in a term and type 'updatedb', or 
you could edit cron*, and change the behavior there. IIRC, 
*slocate.cron is in /etc/cron.weekly.  Just move it to /cron.daily
If you don't run over night, you'll need to install the anacron rpm to 
update on boot.
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Re: [newbie] Gnome Search

2003-01-14 Thread RichardA
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 08:53, Tom Brinkman wrote:
[snip]
 or by anacron when you 
 boot (if that's installed, I don't believe it is by default).

If anacron isn't installed by default, what happens to cron jobs like 
logrotate if the machine is never on at that time?

Richard


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Re: [newbie] Gnome Search

2003-01-14 Thread Michael Adams
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:25, RichardA wrote:
 On Tuesday 14 January 2003 08:53, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 [snip]

  or by anacron when you
  boot (if that's installed, I don't believe it is by default).

 If anacron isn't installed by default, what happens to cron jobs like
 logrotate if the machine is never on at that time?

 Richard

Logrotate won't get run and the log files will just keep growing.
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