Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
On Friday 05 July 2002 09:06 am, you wrote: The only wish I have for KDE and not so much Linux (well, any WM/DE really, as I'd love *box if it had some sort of icons) is one of those bars like in Mac OS Ten... That'd be SOOO sweet! I LOVE how it zooms Mmmm I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom. Are you talking about a whole zooming taskbar? My icons don't zom anymore... They do for one second, then the don't zoom. They just highlight. And yeah, the Mac OS Z bar zooms in too... NICE Oh, the eye candy. You should have a peek at it if you can. Oh, and make sure you minimize a window too... M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
On Friday 05 July 2002 02:12 pm, you wrote: On Friday 05 July 2002 09:06 am, you wrote: The only wish I have for KDE and not so much Linux (well, any WM/DE really, as I'd love *box if it had some sort of icons) is one of those bars like in Mac OS Ten... That'd be SOOO sweet! I LOVE how it zooms Mmmm I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom. Are you talking about a whole zooming taskbar? My icons don't zom anymore... They do for one second, then the don't zoom. They just highlight. And yeah, the Mac OS Z bar zooms in too... NICE Oh, the eye candy. You should have a peek at it if you can. Oh, and make sure you minimize a window too... M. Not sure but I think the icons only zoom if the task bar size is set to tiny, small or medium... (and zooming is enabled of course!) HTH -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom. Are you talking about a whole zooming taskbar? Imagine the shape of a snake as it swallows a large object whole. In OSX, the taskbar takes on the same shape as you move the pointer over something. That is, not only does the icon you're pointing at get big, but the icon on either side gets slightly bigger. Very cool. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
I meant OS X... Not OS Z... On Friday 05 July 2002 02:12 pm, you wrote: On Friday 05 July 2002 09:06 am, you wrote: The only wish I have for KDE and not so much Linux (well, any WM/DE really, as I'd love *box if it had some sort of icons) is one of those bars like in Mac OS Ten... That'd be SOOO sweet! I LOVE how it zooms Mmmm I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom. Are you talking about a whole zooming taskbar? My icons don't zom anymore... They do for one second, then the don't zoom. They just highlight. And yeah, the Mac OS Z bar zooms in too... NICE Oh, the eye candy. You should have a peek at it if you can. Oh, and make sure you minimize a window too... M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
On Friday 05 July 2002 02:34 pm, you wrote: On Friday 05 July 2002 02:12 pm, you wrote: On Friday 05 July 2002 09:06 am, you wrote: The only wish I have for KDE and not so much Linux (well, any WM/DE really, as I'd love *box if it had some sort of icons) is one of those bars like in Mac OS Ten... That'd be SOOO sweet! I LOVE how it zooms Mmmm I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom. Are you talking about a whole zooming taskbar? My icons don't zom anymore... They do for one second, then the don't zoom. They just highlight. And yeah, the Mac OS Z bar zooms in too... NICE Oh, the eye candy. You should have a peek at it if you can. Oh, and make sure you minimize a window too... M. Not sure but I think the icons only zoom if the task bar size is set to tiny, small or medium... (and zooming is enabled of course!) HTH I have tried them all, and it works for the first 3 seconds after you apply the changes, then it stops working. Don't know why. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
On Friday 05 July 2002 04:35 pm, you wrote: I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom. Are you talking about a whole zooming taskbar? Imagine the shape of a snake as it swallows a large object whole. In OSX, the taskbar takes on the same shape as you move the pointer over something. That is, not only does the icon you're pointing at get big, but the icon on either side gets slightly bigger. Very cool. Hey Miark, that's a great way to describe it! I never thought of that. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 01:35 PM, Miark wrote: I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom. Are you talking about a whole zooming taskbar? Imagine the shape of a snake as it swallows a large object whole. In OSX, the taskbar takes on the same shape as you move the pointer over something. That is, not only does the icon you're pointing at get big, but the icon on either side gets slightly bigger. Very cool. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I have OS X in the house along with Linux and XP. The effect is more like moving a magnifying glass over the object. It will enlarge the icon you move your cursor over and warp everything on either side until you move the cursor to next object. -- Remember, don't shoot until you see the white of their eyes!. Yes, sir!, but the problem is that the enemy is behind us. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
With Hard disks the size and price they are now,, it would be great to see a system like that with a 20 or 30 gig in it, loaded to the hilt with all of the apps that people use.. evolution, mozilla etc etc etc.. and madrake are not far off the ball with all this... They should take what inovations Lindows introduced (like the C drive button, which I suggested on this list over a year ago..) and the network neighbourhood setup and copy it.. (adjusted to suit) and any of the auto config stuff.. then they can do the same thing as Lindows without the mistakes Lindows made, like running as root. a: The Menu system should be tweaked so that a default application is listed in each category, and a like to Alternatives under it.. so as an example, Kmail is the default mail reader in the menu, and under it is a menu directory of the other mail clients, and the menu app monitors which one gets used the most and makes it the default.. so if the user uses Evolution the most, Evolution becomes the default in the menu... that would work. b: Not run as root.. Mandrakes use of the password box whenever a admin task is run is much bettter. c. Prefab install makes the install issue moot anyway.. but the auto monitor detection in Lindows is great. copy that. d. Make OpenOffice.org a default part of the install.. the lack of it (MS Office compatable product) will be a major annoyance to windows users, the first time someone sends them a Word document. e. Autodetection and setup of printers needs to be improved bigtime.. ditto scanners. f. Lots of links to linuxdoc.org and www.google.com/linux would be a good idea too.. since nearly every problem I have had was resolved by seaching one of those.. (and mandrakes huge repository of docs as well) put them all together into a Help application.. where you type in a question, and it does its best to find an answer..) (thats simplified, but you get the idea.) Mandrake could fairly easily make an OEM Mandrake that does all that and more.. and sell it as an OEM package where the merchant Tailors the package to their hardware.. and works more or less like Windoze preinstall... Linux is ready for the desktop in some cases.. it just needs the right approach.. and the linux crowds attitude of RTFM and STFW just can't be used with newbies.. they need at least 2 months linux experiance before you tell them that.. :-) Just some thoughts.. long live linux... The day I read that linux has 50 percent marketshare of destops as well as the majority of servers is the day I start having faith in human nature again. regards Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of D. Olson Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2002 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK? On Wednesday 03 July 2002 06:51 pm, you wrote: If that was true, yes, you would be more open to viruses (virii isn't a word), but since Lindows has made it clear that users log in using usernames and passwords, I think that they have fixed this hole. Unless I read their FAQ wrong... Well paint me purple and call me Barney. Looks like they didn't bother changing it, but they did mention it in the FAQ... The lurking terror of Root So far I haven't addressed the questionable design decision to make the user run as root. This opens the door for viruses and insecurities like the ones that have plagued Windows for years. The Unix system of limited privileges has been an effective means of restricting viral code. To throw all that away now seems very foolish. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:51:37 -0400, D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with you though, in not liking the lindows idea. I've never used it, but I keep hearing that it forces you to run as root. I hope this doesn't catch on. IMHO, they're taking one of the greatest security features and throwing it away. Running as a root makes your system much more vulnerable to virii, it would seem. If that was true, yes, you would be more open to viruses (virii isn't a word), but since Lindows has made it clear that users log in using usernames and passwords, I think that they have fixed this hole. Virii is most definitely a word. Unless I read their FAQ wrong... For what I have read, I don't think there is any login whatsoever. Even if there was, that doesn't change the fact that everything is running as root, which is just as insecure as using Windows. No amount of firewalling can change this. Their Click-n-Run scheme is also a potential security vulnerability, since software is being downloaded and installed as root. It is similar in concept to Ximian's Red Carpet and MandrakeUpdate, but I am not convinced that it is as secure. When you are downloading and executing code from the Internet, security is of paramount importance. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan In short, Microsoft is no more able to build secure products than England's cricket team is able to withstand the bowling of Australia's bowlers. -- John Leyden, MS firewall is holier than the Pope, The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk), 2001-08-20. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
On Wednesday 03 July 2002 06:51 pm, you wrote: If that was true, yes, you would be more open to viruses (virii isn't a word), but since Lindows has made it clear that users log in using usernames and passwords, I think that they have fixed this hole. Unless I read their FAQ wrong... Well paint me purple and call me Barney. Looks like they didn't bother changing it, but they did mention it in the FAQ... The lurking terror of Root So far I haven't addressed the questionable design decision to make the user run as root. This opens the door for viruses and insecurities like the ones that have plagued Windows for years. The Unix system of limited privileges has been an effective means of restricting viral code. To throw all that away now seems very foolish. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
