Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
Russ, There is an offical java icq which will run on linux as well as any other platform which allows you to run java apps, but it is slow. I would recommend using Licq, which comes with the mandrake distribution (just type 'licq' at the terminal prompt). Exodus Russ Westbrook wrote: Guillermo, You said you use Linux for several different things, one of which was icq. Are you referring to the program that allows people to know when another gets on line then chat together? I use this program allot in 98 and am really going to miss it when I make the final jump. I wrote to Miribalis (spelling) and they informed me that no Linux version is planned. If this is the program you are using, may I ask how you are using it under Linux? Thanks Russ
Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
Hey, All you need to do to get mandrake's Licq working is at root, type :dbupdate then type : licq to start the program. IN A WORLD WITHOUT WALLS... WHO NEEDS GATEWAYS OR WINDOWS? ~~~SUPPORT UNIX~~~. [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. - Original Message - From: Paul A. Bernicchi To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 14:15 Subject: Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help? - Original Message -From: Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 9:24 PMSubject: Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help? Jeanette Russo wrote: There seems to be two RPMS for KICQ one is for KDE 1.1 and one for KDE1.0 which does Mandrake 5.3 use? Also there is some kind of Library RPMthat comes with it do we install that also? Thanks Jeanette I believe Mandrake ships with KDE 1.1.Mandrake 5.2 ships with KDE 1.0. Unless you download the 1.1 RPMs orsource, the only way to get the latest KDE is by getting Mandrake 5.3.Paul+---+Paul A. Bernicchi[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ #1287814http://www.ascend.net/jacuzzi+---+
Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
About ICQ: It could possibly work with WINE. Or you could get VMware (http://www.vmware.com) and run ICQ under Windows and have Linux running on your computer simultaneously! Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED] But then again, if KICQ and LICQ exist, and theyre good... why fiddle with widows? --- "Free your mind... and your ass will follow" Bono, U2 Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com
Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
Thanks Nick Jeanette - Original Message - From: Nick Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help? Hi Jeanette, Mandrake uses KDE 1.1. If the kicq rpm will install without needing the library the I would do just that, otherwise you'll need to install the library as well. ttfn nick@nexnix At 06:30 12/04/99 -0500, you wrote: There seems to be two RPMS for KICQ one is for KDE 1.1 and one for KDE 1.0 which does Mandrake 5.3 use? Also there is some kind of Library RPM that comes with it do we install that also? Thanks Jeanette - Original Message - From: Guillermo Belli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 1999 3:46 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help? Hi Russ, In your Mandrake cd is an icq program called licq, it's pretty good. But there are some other programs too. If you are used to Mirabilis' icq program then try kicq, it's almost identical. For more information go to: www.portup.com/~gyandl/icq , there you'll find links to other icq clones. Guillermo On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, you wrote: Guillermo, You said you use Linux for several different things, one of which was icq. Are you referring to the program that allows people to know when another gets on line then chat together? I use this program allot in 98 and am really going to miss it when I make the final jump. I wrote to Miribalis (spelling) and they informed me that no Linux version is planned. If this is the program you are using, may I ask how you are using it under Linux? Thanks Russ
Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
Russ Westbrook wrote: Guillermo, You said you use Linux for several different things, one of which was icq. Are you referring to the program that allows people to know when another gets on line then chat together? I use this program allot in 98 and am really going to miss it when I make the final jump. I wrote to Miribalis (spelling) and they informed me that no Linux version is planned. If this is the program you are using, may I ask how you are using it under Linux? Thanks Russ It could possibly work with WINE. Or you could get VMware (http://www.vmware.com) and run ICQ under Windows and have Linux running on your computer simultaneously! -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
Jeanette Russo wrote: There seems to be two RPMS for KICQ one is for KDE 1.1 and one for KDE 1.0 which does Mandrake 5.3 use? Also there is some kind of Library RPM that comes with it do we install that also? Thanks Jeanette I believe Mandrake ships with KDE 1.1. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
Hi Russ, In your Mandrake cd is an icq program called licq, it's pretty good. But there are some other programs too. If you are used to Mirabilis' icq program then try kicq, it's almost identical. For more information go to: www.portup.com/~gyandl/icq , there you'll find links to other icq clones. Guillermo On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, you wrote: Guillermo, You said you use Linux for several different things, one of which was icq. Are you referring to the program that allows people to know when another gets on line then chat together? I use this program allot in 98 and am really going to miss it when I make the final jump. I wrote to Miribalis (spelling) and they informed me that no Linux version is planned. If this is the program you are using, may I ask how you are using it under Linux? Thanks Russ
Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Jose Alberto Abreu wrote: I am a journalist, so I did some research. And, the more I learned about this wonderful proyect, the more I wanted to try it. But something stopped me (this was around a year ago): "If your VCR blinks '12:00', you should not use Linux" I think that's overdone - my VCR blinks '12:00' occasionally because I'm too lazy to set the clock right, and yet I'm a Linux developer. ;) The "you should know at least how to handle several Unix commands" Right - you SHOULD know some Unix commands, but you don't absolutely need to. By today, there are desktop environments like KDE (http://www.kde.org/) and GNOME (http://www.gnome.org/) that make using Linux rather easy. You can do almost everything using the graphical frontends provided there, but knowing at least the basics of the shell can be of great help. and the "Linux is just for geeks, nobody serious makes software for it" part also did much to discourage me. That's just a M$ campaign - far from true. And finally a more technologically saavy friend of mine just shot it point blank: "You are planning on going to Linux? Good luck!" He probably tried it a couple of years ago, when it was still difficult to use. So I decided to delay this very important decision. I believed (and I still do) that Linux would eventually evolve out of the "just for engineers" niche and into a more mainstream (easier to use and get software for) status. We're on the way there - it's quite easy to use now; getting software is easier than it used to be, but for some special programs, it's still a bit of a problem. But, before I become discouraged again, I ask you who are so much more able with technology, Is it finally time to switch? I'd say it's at least time to start using it. There's nothing that prevents you from having Linux and Windoze installed on the same computer, and select which OS to use at bootup. Actually most people are doing this so they don't have to switch over from all the applications they're used to (at least not until they've found an equally good (or better) replacement for Linux). LLaP bero
Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
Jose Alberto Abreu wrote: Hello: My name is Alberto, and i want my computer to work properly. This doesnt seem to be an unreasonable desire... Given the fact that computers have evolved so much in the last couple of decades, it would sound logical that the average joe or jane should be able to use a home desktop computer to help with usual busines s and home tasks such as wordprocessing, or maybe some semi-profesional image-processing (retouching photos and the like). Is the desire to be able to perform such simple tasks like consulting e-mail, or playing a simple mp3 file without my software freezing and my operating system crashing? Yes, you have guessed it. I, like millions of people all over the world, use the operating system created in Redmond. I believed, like many, many people out there, that this erratic and frustrating computer behavior was in some way "normal"... Until I heard about Linux. I am a journalist, so I did some research. And, the more I learned about this wonderful proyect, the more I wanted to try it. But something stopped me (this was around a year ago): "If your VCR blinks '12:00', you should not use Linux" Well, my VCR blinks "12:00"... And so does my microwave... There have been times when even my alarm clock blinks "12:00"... Mhmm... The "you should know at least how to handle several Unix commands" and the "Linux is just for geeks, nobody serious makes software for it" part also did much to discourage me. And finally a more technologically saavy friend of mine just shot it point blan k: "You are planning on going to Linux? Good luck!" So I decided to delay this very important decision. I believed (and I still do) that Linux would eventually evolve out of the "just for engineers" niche and into a more mainstream (easier to use and get software for) status. I thought I would wait for a couple of years for this, but two days ago ran into the Mandrake homepage. I became excited again... ^_^ But, before I become discouraged again, I ask you who are so much more able with technology, Is it finally time to switch? I must say that I have no intention of becoming a systems administrator, nor to learn more Unix than I know Ms-DOS (which is like 15-20 commands). I just want my computer to work without having to worry about some piece of badly written, undocumented piece of junk software crashing it everytime I try to start a simple wordprocessor. Your thoughts on this will be greatly appreciated... Jose Alberto Abreu (sorry about all of that yakking... but hey, Im a writer) --- "Free your mind... and your ass will follow" Bono, U2 Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com I'm very new to Linux also. What you're asking for is what everyone wants. Fortunately, Linux can do all that and much more for you. However, it is MUCH different from Redmond products. It can have a steep learning curve. I suggest you go to your local library and see if you can find a book describing basic Unix concepts. You will find this very helpful. Also go to http://www.mcp.com and search for e-books. I think they have some Linux books you can read online. There's also some basic stuff on your CD-ROM (although you have to look for it;I'm not sure where it is) I bought the Macmillan edition of RedHat 5.2 (Mandrake is pretty much the same but with KDE added) because it includes a CDROM with 3 useful electronic books which you can view with Adobe Acrobat Reader for Linux (also included on the CD) or other programs. Good luck using Linux! Have fun with it;don't be afraid to experiment;that's how you learn. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
Hi Alberto: You can try Linux at no risk (almost!). You can have that "piece of badly written, undocumented piece of junk software software" supposed to be an OS running along with Linux. About a year ago I got tired of losing my school work after two hours of writing, and got tired of the system hangs when I was surfing the web (and sometimes lost some big downloads that were close to 90% g), and also got tired of.. well it's a very long list. Because of this I was looking for an alternative, and I read about Linux, and got a copy of Caldera 1.2. I was completely new to this Unix-like enviroment, but had no major problems. With time I learned some tricks and some commands too. It's not so difficult as some people want it to appear. Now I'm using Mandrake 5.3 since some two weeks, and I'm impressed about how Linux has changed in just one year. It's far more easy to configure and to operate than before. I'd say, give it a try! It's not true there is no software for Linux. There are tons of programs and applications out there, and most of them for free. A good example would be StarOficce 5 (that is MS Office in the Windows world, but a lot better in my opinion). As I said before, you can have Linux and that piece of crap (aka Windows) in your machine, and decide which one to use at bootup. I use the MS "OS" just for gaming, since there are no versions of my favorite games for Linux (that will change in a couple of years :)). For Web surfing, e-mail, icq, irc, word processing and also graphics manupulation and everithig else I use Linux. I'll just add one more thing: give it a chance!! You won't be dissapointed. You'll stick with Linux for sure. Guillermo On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, you wrote: Hello: My name is Alberto, and i want my computer to work properly. This doesnt seem to be an unreasonable desire... Given the fact that computers have evolved so much in the last couple of decades, it would sound logical that the average joe or jane should be able to use a home desktop computer to help with usual business and home tasks such as wordprocessing, or maybe some semi-profesional image-processing (retouching photos and the like). Is the desire to be able to perform such simple tasks like consulting e-mail, or playing a simple mp3 file without my software freezing and my operating system crashing? Yes, you have guessed it. I, like millions of people all over the world, use the operating system created in Redmond. I believed, like many, many people out there, that this erratic and frustrating computer behavior was in some way "normal"... Until I heard about Linux. I am a journalist, so I did some research. And, the more I learned about this wonderful proyect, the more I wanted to try it. But something stopped me (this was around a year ago): "If your VCR blinks '12:00', you should not use Linux" Well, my VCR blinks "12:00"... And so does my microwave... There have been times when even my alarm clock blinks "12:00"... Mhmm... The "you should know at least how to handle several Unix commands" and the "Linux is just for geeks, nobody serious makes software for it" part also did much to discourage me. And finally a more technologically saavy friend of mine just shot it point blank: "You are planning on going to Linux? Good luck!" So I decided to delay this very important decision. I believed (and I still do) that Linux would eventually evolve out of the "just for engineers" niche and into a more mainstream (easier to use and get software for) status. I thought I would wait for a couple of years for this, but two days ago ran into the Mandrake homepage. I became excited again... ^_^ But, before I become discouraged again, I ask you who are so much more able with technology, Is it finally time to switch? I must say that I have no intention of becoming a systems administrator, nor to learn more Unix than I know Ms-DOS (which is like 15-20 commands). I just want my computer to work without having to worry about some piece of badly written, undocumented piece of junk software crashing it everytime I try to start a simple wordprocessor. Your thoughts on this will be greatly appreciated... Jose Alberto Abreu (sorry about all of that yakking... but hey, Im a writer) --- "Free your mind... and your ass will follow" Bono, U2 Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com
RE: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
Guillermo, You said you use Linux for several different things, one of which was icq. Are you referring to the program that allows people to know when another gets on line then chat together? I use this program allot in 98 and am really going to miss it when I make the final jump. I wrote to Miribalis (spelling) and they informed me that no Linux version is planned. If this is the program you are using, may I ask how you are using it under Linux? Thanks Russ
Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
From: Russ Westbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] 98 and am really going to miss it when I make the final jump. I wrote to Miribalis (spelling) and they informed me that no Linux version is planned. If this is the program you are using, may I ask how you are using it under Linux? Really? I could have sworn I saw a file on tucows that was the "official" ICQ for Linux, but it required Java to run. There are a number of other ICQ clients available, one of which is licq. Go to www.tucows.com and check it out.
Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
In the Linux-mandrake 5.3 release cd. there is a program called licq that works with icq's servers. It's great. Lyndon Lininger Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Russ Westbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 1999 7:29 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help? Guillermo, You said you use Linux for several different things, one of which was icq. Are you referring to the program that allows people to know when another gets on line then chat together? I use this program allot in 98 and am really going to miss it when I make the final jump. I wrote to Miribalis (spelling) and they informed me that no Linux version is planned. If this is the program you are using, may I ask how you are using it under Linux? Thanks Russ
Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
Russ Westbrook wrote: Guillermo, You said you use Linux for several different things, one of which was icq. Are you referring to the program that allows people to know when another gets on line then chat together? I use this program allot in 98 and am really going to miss it when I make the final jump. I wrote to Miribalis (spelling) and they informed me that no Linux version is planned. If this is the program you are using, may I ask how you are using it under Linux? Thanks Russ I tried the Java version of ICQ for awhile. It is big and slow. I have also used licq, kicq, and icqnix. licq is the best at this time, IMHO. The others all worked fine for basic messaging...licq keeps adding features in short time frames.
