Re: [newbie] kde 3.4 install

2005-04-11 Thread john
frengoGorgia wrote:
Il dom, 2005-04-10 alle 20:33, john ha scritto:
Hello
Installed kde 3.4 and applications disappeared on menus. I installed 
through mandrake control center and everything installed ok per message. I 
ran update-menus -v and the following message came up.
--
** (process:7390): CRITICAL **: file eggdesktopentries.c: line 2223 
(egg_desktop_entries_add_group): assertion 
`egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
---
I was upgrading from 3.2 on MD10.1 desktop. Is there a fix for this or 
should I reinstall earlier version?
Thanks in advance for help.

probably
/etc/menu/menudrakeentry
was breaked by the upgrade
post that file in list so we could read it.
maybe this help.
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Hello Francesco
I went through a series of problems and ended up starting x from the 
command line. Everything seems to be working ok from there. It doesn't 
start with mandrake display manager and switches to konsole login with kdm. 
Googling showed that it had to do with the different login managers. Will 
use as is. Thanks for responding.
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Re: [newbie] kde 3.4 install

2005-04-10 Thread frengoGorgia
Il dom, 2005-04-10 alle 20:33, john ha scritto:
 Hello
 Installed kde 3.4 and applications disappeared on menus. I installed 
 through mandrake control center and everything installed ok per message. I 
 ran update-menus -v and the following message came up.
 --
 ** (process:7390): CRITICAL **: file eggdesktopentries.c: line 2223 
 (egg_desktop_entries_add_group): assertion 
 `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
 ---
 I was upgrading from 3.2 on MD10.1 desktop. Is there a fix for this or 
 should I reinstall earlier version?
 Thanks in advance for help.

probably

/etc/menu/menudrakeentry

was breaked by the upgrade

post that file in list so we could read it.
maybe this help.


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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4 - successful install - yes!

2005-03-20 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Sunday 20 March 2005 06:10, Mr. Geek wrote:
 Guys, you're beating yourselves up for nothing on this. After you add
 Thac's RPM's to urpmi, take a moment to install the ICE desktop or some
 other one. Chances are that you'll have at least 2 desktop environments
 installed anyway.

 Once you're all done, log out of this desktop environment and log back
 into KDE and enjoy.

Yup!
I managed to clear up the hiccups. Apparently Kmail 1.8 now puts the mail 
folder in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail
After moving the old mail folder from ~/.Mail, now, I have my all my old 
emails and folder again :) Yay!

Kmail 1.8 is really something. I like it very much. Seems more slim but yet 
featurefull. One thing I like is that we now can see the spam meter in the 
form of graphics coloured from green to red :) fantastic.

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4 - successful install - yes!

2005-03-20 Thread riccardo

 Remark
___

 although my system is very old and out-dated,
 I mention this because of Mandrakes recent new relationship with 
Brazilian 'Connectiva'

 . . . several times, in the past, i have updated my KDE using 
Connectiva's APT package management tool

 ~ First Class   :))

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4 - successful install - yes!

2005-03-20 Thread Pablo Ortuzar
On Sunday 20 March 2005 15:24, riccardo wrote:
  Remark
 ___

  although my system is very old and out-dated,
  I mention this because of Mandrakes recent new relationship with
 Brazilian 'Connectiva'

  . . . several times, in the past, i have updated my KDE using
 Connectiva's APT package management tool

  ~ First Class   :))

 best rgds
 
Do you mean I can use Conectiva's APT to update my (Mandrake) distro?
Or is your distro Conectiva's?
If you've used apt to update Mandrake, could you please be more specific?  I 
find apt commands much simpler (as compared to urpmi).
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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-19 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Saturday 19 March 2005 10:32 am, Miark wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:37:00 -0600, Leaf wrote:
KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva
packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way
to urpmi them?
 
  Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can
  add Thacs to your  urpmi resources as well.  Another good place
  for non-mandrake club members is  the dutch users group MCNL.

 The last time I used Thac's RPMs for KDE, it was a nightmare, as
 it was for at least a few other people. Any reason to expect
 similar problems with 3.4 RPMs?

 Miark

I'm going to do the upgrade.. wish me luck :)

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-19 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Saturday 19 March 2005 10:32 am, Miark wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:37:00 -0600, Leaf wrote:
KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva
packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way
to urpmi them?
 
  Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can
  add Thacs to your  urpmi resources as well.  Another good place
  for non-mandrake club members is  the dutch users group MCNL.

 The last time I used Thac's RPMs for KDE, it was a nightmare, as
 it was for at least a few other people. Any reason to expect
 similar problems with 3.4 RPMs?

 Miark

Ugh.. can i use urpmi, or should i do it manually?
Because i've got this error:

urpmi.addmedia thacs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS with list
added medium thacs
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.jpackage.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.updates.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf-nonfree.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf-free.cz]
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of thacs...
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/list
found probed hdlist (or synthesis) as list
...retrieving done
examining hdlist file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.thacs.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.thacs.cz]
unable to parse hdlist file of thacs
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.thacs.cz]
problem reading synthesis file of medium thacs
unable to update medium thacs




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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-19 Thread Mr. Geek
Fajar Priyanto wrote:
I'm going to do the upgrade.. wish me luck :)
Luck!
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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Smith
I do not know what is wrong, but after having added Thac as a media, when I run

urpmi --auto-select

nothing happens. Does the same happen with you?

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-19 Thread Pablo Ortuzar
On Saturday 19 March 2005 14:07, Paul Smith wrote:
 I do not know what is wrong, but after having added Thac as a media, when I
 run

 urpmi --auto-select

 nothing happens. Does the same happen with you?

 Paul

No. 204 packages were going to be installed. Due to missed dependencies, none 
was. BTW, did you do a previous urpmi.update?
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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-19 Thread Miark
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:18:17 +0700, Fajar wrote:

  The last time I used Thac's RPMs for KDE, it was a nightmare,
  as it was for at least a few other people. Any reason to
  expect similar problems with 3.4 RPMs?
 
 I'm going to do the upgrade.. wish me luck :)

You bet!

Were you one those who had problems with his 3.3 RPMs?

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:44:36 +0100, Pablo Ortuzar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I do not know what is wrong, but after having added Thac as a media, when I
  run
 
  urpmi --auto-select
 
  nothing happens. Does the same happen with you?
 
 No. 204 packages were going to be installed. Due to missed dependencies, none
 was. BTW, did you do a previous urpmi.update?

Thanks, Pablo. Yes, I did a previous urpmi.update. Did it take a long
while to complete your

urpmi --auto-select

?

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-19 Thread Pablo Ortuzar
On Saturday 19 March 2005 18:05, Paul Smith wrote:
 On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:44:36 +0100, Pablo Ortuzar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
   I do not know what is wrong, but after having added Thac as a media,
   when I run
  
   urpmi --auto-select
  
   nothing happens. Does the same happen with you?
 
  No. 204 packages were going to be installed. Due to missed dependencies,
  none was. BTW, did you do a previous urpmi.update?

 Thanks, Pablo. Yes, I did a previous urpmi.update. Did it take a long
 while to complete your

 urpmi --auto-select

 ?

 Paul
No, it didn't. But I had to reinstall: some packages DID install. Couldn't 
boot.



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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-19 Thread Mr. Geek
Guys, you're beating yourselves up for nothing on this. After you add 
Thac's RPM's to urpmi, take a moment to install the ICE desktop or some 
other one. Chances are that you'll have at least 2 desktop environments 
installed anyway.

Log out of KDE, and log back in as root or a normal user, but log into 
the alternate desktop, no matter what it is. Find Mandrake Control 
Center, open it and switch your package selection to the third button 
marked All Packages, By Group.

Change that so it reads All Packages, By Medium Repository, and expand 
the one marked as thac's.rpms. Now have a look at the rpms which have 
version numbers of 3.4.0-1.mdk10.1.thac.

Start with the basics like the i18n package for your preferred language 
and kdebase or kde-common. Mandrake will automatically select any 
dependancies. Make sure you install any new packages which may be in 
Thac's repository which refer to 'mdkkdm', 'mandrake_desk', 
'mandrakegalaxy', 'mandrakelinux-create-kde-mdk-menu', 
'mandrakelinux-kde-config-file', etc. You get the idea.

Keep installing KDE 3.4 in small groups of packages - like all the 
kdepim packages, or whichever you need. In the process of doing this 
update, Mandrake will delete (uninstall) any unneeded KDE 3.2 or 3.3 
packages. Once you have everything you want or need, you're done.

If you've already downloaded the rpms from Thac's site, copy them into
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms and MCC will use them instead of downloading fresh 
copies, saving you some time.

Once you're all done, log out of this desktop environment and log back 
into KDE and enjoy.

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-18 Thread frengoGorgia
Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto:
 Hello,
 
 KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available, but 
 no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them?


Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w=2
http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php



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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-18 Thread Leaf
On Friday 18 March 2005 16:13, frengoGorgia wrote:
 Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto:
  Hello,
 
  KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available,
  but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them?

 Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts

 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w=2
 http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php

Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to your 
urpmi resources as well.  Another good place for non-mandrake club members is 
the dutch users group MCNL.


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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-18 Thread Mr. Geek
Leaf wrote:
On Friday 18 March 2005 16:13, frengoGorgia wrote:
Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto:
Hello,
KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available,
but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them?
Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w=2
http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php

Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to your 
urpmi resources as well.  
Yeah, and KDE 3.4 not only looks good but runs great on my laptop. One 
suggestion folks. Make sure you have a different desktop system 
installed (ICE, BlackBox, etc.) and log into that desktop before 
updating KDE.

In other words, either boot into runlevel 3 or a different Desktop 
Environment before installing KDE 3.4, since it will replace your 
existing KDE in the process.

If you remain in KDE whilst updating it, you're asking for trouble.
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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-18 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:55:49 -0500, Mr. Geek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Leaf wrote:
  On Friday 18 March 2005 16:13, frengoGorgia wrote:
 
 Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto:
 
 Hello,
 
 KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages available,
 but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them?
 
 Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts
 
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w=2
 http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php
 
 
  Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to 
  your
  urpmi resources as well.
 
 Yeah, and KDE 3.4 not only looks good but runs great on my laptop. One
 suggestion folks. Make sure you have a different desktop system
 installed (ICE, BlackBox, etc.) and log into that desktop before
 updating KDE.
 
 In other words, either boot into runlevel 3 or a different Desktop
 Environment before installing KDE 3.4, since it will replace your
 existing KDE in the process.
 
 If you remain in KDE whilst updating it, you're asking for trouble.

And which packages should one start installing?

Paul


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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-18 Thread frengoGorgia
Il sab, 2005-03-19 alle 00:18, Paul Smith ha scritto:

   Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to 
   your
   urpmi resources as well.
  
  Yeah, and KDE 3.4 not only looks good but runs great on my laptop. One
  suggestion folks. Make sure you have a different desktop system
  installed (ICE, BlackBox, etc.) and log into that desktop before
  updating KDE.
  
  In other words, either boot into runlevel 3 or a different Desktop
  Environment before installing KDE 3.4, since it will replace your
  existing KDE in the process.
  
  If you remain in KDE whilst updating it, you're asking for trouble.
 
 And which packages should one start installing?
 
 Paul

you could start from the kdelibs* and libkde* packagees :

urpmi kdelibs-common-3.4
urpmi libkdebase4-3.4

and so on 

urpmi  kdebase-3.4




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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-18 Thread Julie Sloan
On Friday 18 March 2005 05:37 pm, Leaf wrote:
 On Friday 18 March 2005 16:13, frengoGorgia wrote:
  Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto:
   Hello,
  
   KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages
   available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them?
 
  Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts
 
  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w=2
  http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php

 Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to
 your urpmi resources as well.  Another good place for non-mandrake club
 members is the dutch users group MCNL.


Says on Thacs page, 

Thac's RPMs for Mandrake
Updated 2004-11-11

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-18 Thread Leaf
On Friday 18 March 2005 18:09, Julie Sloan wrote:
 On Friday 18 March 2005 05:37 pm, Leaf wrote:
  On Friday 18 March 2005 16:13, frengoGorgia wrote:
   Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto:
Hello,
   
KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages
available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them?
  
   Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts
  
   http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w=2
   http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php
 
  Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add Thacs to
  your urpmi resources as well.  Another good place for non-mandrake club
  members is the dutch users group MCNL.

 Says on Thacs page,

 Thac's RPMs for Mandrake
 Updated 2004-11-11

Did you scroll down the page to the subdirectories?  KDE 3.4 has it's own 
subdirectory, try there? :-)


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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-18 Thread Paul Smith
I have just installed KDE 3.4. The login panel has changed afterwards.
How can I get the previous one?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-18 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:12:31 +, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have just installed KDE 3.4. The login panel has changed afterwards.
 How can I get the previous one?

I found the solution meanwhile:

urpmi mdkkdm

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-18 Thread Julie Sloan
On Friday 18 March 2005 07:30 pm, Leaf wrote:
 On Friday 18 March 2005 18:09, Julie Sloan wrote:
  On Friday 18 March 2005 05:37 pm, Leaf wrote:
   On Friday 18 March 2005 16:13, frengoGorgia wrote:
Il ven, 2005-03-18 alle 22:45, Pablo Ortuzar ha scritto:
 Hello,

 KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva packages
 available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way to urpmi them?
   
Look like a flame-question for the mandrake-experts
   
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=00737215901w
   =2 http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2005-03/msg00840.php
  
   Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can add
   Thacs to your urpmi resources as well.  Another good place for
   non-mandrake club members is the dutch users group MCNL.
 
  Says on Thacs page,
 
  Thac's RPMs for Mandrake
  Updated 2004-11-11

 Did you scroll down the page to the subdirectories?  KDE 3.4 has it's own
 subdirectory, try there? :-)

Okay, thanks.  :)

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.4

2005-03-18 Thread Miark
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:37:00 -0600, Leaf wrote:

   KDE 3.4 is out. There are SuSE, Fedora and Conectiva
   packages available, but no Mandrake rpms. Is there any way
   to urpmi them?
 
 Check Thac's RPMs http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ , you can
 add Thacs to your  urpmi resources as well.  Another good place
 for non-mandrake club members is  the dutch users group MCNL.

The last time I used Thac's RPMs for KDE, it was a nightmare, as
it was for at least a few other people. Any reason to expect
similar problems with 3.4 RPMs?

Miark


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