Re: [newbie] Linux and Wireless Lan/Internet
On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 7:05 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday September 6 2003 11:02 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 3:03 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: Ok all, I have decided to ditch the wires and go wireless for my ADSL Modem/router/Accesspoint and NIC at home. What is the guts of it?? Nowadays adsl modems and nic's almost always work with Linux (my Nokia Modem/Router and Generic NIC work great under 9.1/Cooker). What are the pitfalls to watch out for to go wireless? What websites for wirelss under Linux do you recommend? Any brands known to work, not work with Linux?? Right now on TradeMe.co.nz there seems to be a good deal on the item listed below (thoughts?): Benq AWL-700 wireless router 802.11b in perfect condition, as new still in box with manuals and cd WITH benq 11Mbps wireless lan pc card(AWL100) both work together great. I can get these now for NZ$230 Cheers Jason Greenwood There is a list of wireless cards and their drivers here http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html I know from experience that Mandrake works with anything Orinoco based works 'out of the box'. The Benq AWL100 uses the Prism 2.5 chip set which uses the wlan-ng driver which I know was not included in Mandrake 9.0 but I was able to get it working by compiling it. I do not know about Mandrake 9.1 HTH derek Derek, I'd reckon you know. I read lately that wireless at best only delivers about 80% of the connection speed. An that the further you get from the source, the percentage drops further. At 10 meters it's all but gone. True? Actually you will be lucky to get more than 5 Mbps of 'goodput' out of an 11Mbps wireless card. I spent some time recently putting together a wireless router for a small ISP here in the UK, and that was the best throughput I measured, (side by side on the bench) and agreed with info I have read around the web. Its the packet overhead and forward error correction that limits it. http://reviews.cnet.com/Siemens_SpeedStream_Powerline_802_11b_Wireless_Access_Point/4505-3334_7-20684674-4.html http://www.cs.umd.edu/~shankar/Papers/802-11b-profile-1.pdf I found some chip sets were better than others. Cisco Aironet was a bit faster than Orinoco/Agere , and Atmel (usb) was a fair bit faster than Prism 2.5 (usb) There is not much in it so do not base your choice just on my say so. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Wireless Lan/Internet
On Sunday September 7 2003 08:02 am, Derek Jennings wrote: Actually you will be lucky to get more than 5 Mbps of 'goodput' out of an 11Mbps wireless card. I spent some time recently putting together a wireless router for a small ISP here in the UK, and that was the best throughput I measured, (side by side on the bench) and agreed with info I have read around the web. Its the packet overhead and forward error correction that limits it. http://reviews.cnet.com/Siemens_SpeedStream_Powerline_802_11b_Wir eless_Access_Point/4505-3334_7-20684674-4.html http://www.cs.umd.edu/~shankar/Papers/802-11b-profile-1.pdf I found some chip sets were better than others. Cisco Aironet was a bit faster than Orinoco/Agere , and Atmel (usb) was a fair bit faster than Prism 2.5 (usb) There is not much in it so do not base your choice just on my say so. derek OK, thanks. That all seems to confirm what I've read. I'm not considering wireless, just curious. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Wireless Lan/Internet
On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 3:03 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: Ok all, I have decided to ditch the wires and go wireless for my ADSL Modem/router/Accesspoint and NIC at home. What is the guts of it?? Nowadays adsl modems and nic's almost always work with Linux (my Nokia Modem/Router and Generic NIC work great under 9.1/Cooker). What are the pitfalls to watch out for to go wireless? What websites for wirelss under Linux do you recommend? Any brands known to work, not work with Linux?? Right now on TradeMe.co.nz there seems to be a good deal on the item listed below (thoughts?): Benq AWL-700 wireless router 802.11b in perfect condition, as new still in box with manuals and cd WITH benq 11Mbps wireless lan pc card(AWL100) both work together great. I can get these now for NZ$230 Cheers Jason Greenwood There is a list of wireless cards and their drivers here http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html I know from experience that Mandrake works with anything Orinoco based works 'out of the box'. The Benq AWL100 uses the Prism 2.5 chip set which uses the wlan-ng driver which I know was not included in Mandrake 9.0 but I was able to get it working by compiling it. I do not know about Mandrake 9.1 HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Wireless Lan/Internet
On Saturday September 6 2003 11:02 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 3:03 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: Ok all, I have decided to ditch the wires and go wireless for my ADSL Modem/router/Accesspoint and NIC at home. What is the guts of it?? Nowadays adsl modems and nic's almost always work with Linux (my Nokia Modem/Router and Generic NIC work great under 9.1/Cooker). What are the pitfalls to watch out for to go wireless? What websites for wirelss under Linux do you recommend? Any brands known to work, not work with Linux?? Right now on TradeMe.co.nz there seems to be a good deal on the item listed below (thoughts?): Benq AWL-700 wireless router 802.11b in perfect condition, as new still in box with manuals and cd WITH benq 11Mbps wireless lan pc card(AWL100) both work together great. I can get these now for NZ$230 Cheers Jason Greenwood There is a list of wireless cards and their drivers here http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html I know from experience that Mandrake works with anything Orinoco based works 'out of the box'. The Benq AWL100 uses the Prism 2.5 chip set which uses the wlan-ng driver which I know was not included in Mandrake 9.0 but I was able to get it working by compiling it. I do not know about Mandrake 9.1 HTH derek Derek, I'd reckon you know. I read lately that wireless at best only delivers about 80% of the connection speed. An that the further you get from the source, the percentage drops further. At 10 meters it's all but gone. True? -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
