Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT - backups
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 21:25:53 +, Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DJ As usual Mandrake has a nice newbie friendly tool to do backups DJ for you. DJ Make sure drakxtools is installed then, DJ Mandrake Control CentreSystemBackups DJ It will back up your /home and /etc folders to CD, ftp, rsync, DJ webdav or ssh automatically at regular intervals. You can DJ configure drakbackup to do a full backup, or an incremental backup DJ from the previous one. Is it possible to back up only certain (and previously specified) directories and NOT the whole /home? Thanks in advance, Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT - backups
On Saturday 05 March 2005 11:23, Paul Smith wrote: On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 21:25:53 +, Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DJ As usual Mandrake has a nice newbie friendly tool to do backups DJ for you. DJ Make sure drakxtools is installed then, DJ Mandrake Control CentreSystemBackups DJ It will back up your /home and /etc folders to CD, ftp, rsync, DJ webdav or ssh automatically at regular intervals. You can DJ configure drakbackup to do a full backup, or an incremental backup DJ from the previous one. Is it possible to back up only certain (and previously specified) directories and NOT the whole /home? Thanks in advance, Paul yes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT - backups
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 13:17:24 +, Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to back up only certain (and previously specified) directories and NOT the whole /home? yes Thanks, Derek. But, how? Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT - backups
Op Sat, 5 Mar 2005 14:04:02 + schreef Paul Smith: On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 13:17:24 +, Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to back up only certain (and previously specified) directories and NOT the whole /home? yes *grin* That almost looks like the answer of MS-tech support. ;-) Thanks, Derek. But, how? I had a quick look at drakbackup. You can click an 'advanced' button, and from there you can select exactly what you want backed up. Just run the program yourself (as root), it is very simple. And it won't start doing things on its own. If you don't trust what you do, just end it and try again. Mandrake is sooo nice... Paul -- Truth has no special time of its own. Its hour is now - always. - Albert Schweitzer http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.php Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT - backups
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 15:18:24 +0100, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to back up only certain (and previously specified) directories and NOT the whole /home? yes *grin* That almost looks like the answer of MS-tech support. ;-) Thanks, Derek. But, how? I had a quick look at drakbackup. You can click an 'advanced' button, and from there you can select exactly what you want backed up. Just run the program yourself (as root), it is very simple. And it won't start doing things on its own. If you don't trust what you do, just end it and try again. Mandrake is sooo nice... Found it. Thanks a lot, Paul. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT - backups
On Saturday 05 March 2005 09:18, Paul wrote: I had a quick look at drakbackup. You can click an 'advanced' button, and from there you can select exactly what you want backed up. Just run the program yourself (as root), it is very simple. And it won't start doing things on its own. If you don't trust what you do, just end it and try again. Mandrake is sooo nice... Also, just in case anyone is interested in doing things the other way, you can create a file in your /home directory called .backupignore and add all files, directories that you want to NOT be included in the backup. Drakbackup will ignore all files and directories so listed. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT - backups
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 10:24:35 -0500, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a quick look at drakbackup. You can click an 'advanced' button, and from there you can select exactly what you want backed up. Just run the program yourself (as root), it is very simple. And it won't start doing things on its own. If you don't trust what you do, just end it and try again. Mandrake is sooo nice... Also, just in case anyone is interested in doing things the other way, you can create a file in your /home directory called .backupignore and add all files, directories that you want to NOT be included in the backup. Drakbackup will ignore all files and directories so listed. Thanks, Bryan. I am planning to make my backups to my hard disk and, from time to time, I will save them to CDs. However, I fear that a backup file may be bigger than the storage capacity of a CD. So, I would like to ask whether there exists a way of circumvent this difficulty. Thanks in advance, Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT - backups
On Saturday 05 March 2005 10:52, Paul Smith wrote: Thanks, Bryan. I am planning to make my backups to my hard disk and, from time to time, I will save them to CDs. However, I fear that a backup file may be bigger than the storage capacity of a CD. So, I would like to ask whether there exists a way of circumvent this difficulty. That is fairly easy, make backups the normal way you would to a hard drive. Then, use an archive program like zip to create an archive of the backup but tell it to keep the file sizes at 600MB or so and span the archive. That will create multiple files small enough to fit on CD. Then, you simpy burn each file to a CD. Of course, this takes space on a hd to do and with DVD burners hitting about $60-80 for dual mode models, I can't see any reason to accept that limitation when you can spend $100, get a DVD burner with a couple of +RW media and burn 4.6 gb of files to a single disk. And, if you have more than 4.6 gb of data in your home directory, let me be the first to suggest that you might consider figuring out how much you do or don't need regularly and archiving some of it to permanent storage. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT - backups
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 12:50:56 -0500, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Bryan. I am planning to make my backups to my hard disk and, from time to time, I will save them to CDs. However, I fear that a backup file may be bigger than the storage capacity of a CD. So, I would like to ask whether there exists a way of circumvent this difficulty. That is fairly easy, make backups the normal way you would to a hard drive. Then, use an archive program like zip to create an archive of the backup but tell it to keep the file sizes at 600MB or so and span the archive. That will create multiple files small enough to fit on CD. Then, you simpy burn each file to a CD. Of course, this takes space on a hd to do and with DVD burners hitting about $60-80 for dual mode models, I can't see any reason to accept that limitation when you can spend $100, get a DVD burner with a couple of +RW media and burn 4.6 gb of files to a single disk. And, if you have more than 4.6 gb of data in your home directory, let me be the first to suggest that you might consider figuring out how much you do or don't need regularly and archiving some of it to permanent storage. Good ideas, Bryan. Thanks. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT - backups
On Friday 04 March 2005 09:04, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: SNIP Further question. Have been looking at cron directories (I think anyway!). Have a long list of /etc/rc or etc/cron.daily /etc/cron.hourly and so on. With regard to the above script - do I navigate to the appropriate line eg /etc/cron.daily then insert the script? I know this sounds basic to experienced users, but it is like speaking a foreign language to me. Thanks Rosemary As usual Mandrake has a nice newbie friendly tool to do backups for you. Make sure drakxtools is installed then, Mandrake Control CentreSystemBackups It will back up your /home and /etc folders to CD, ftp, rsync, webdav or ssh automatically at regular intervals. You can configure drakbackup to do a full backup, or an incremental backup from the previous one. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT - backups
On Friday 04 Mar 2005 22:29, Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 04 March 2005 09:04, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: SNIP Further question. Have been looking at cron directories (I think anyway!). Have a long list of /etc/rc or etc/cron.daily /etc/cron.hourly and so on. With regard to the above script - do I navigate to the appropriate line eg /etc/cron.daily then insert the script? I know this sounds basic to experienced users, but it is like speaking a foreign language to me. Thanks Rosemary As usual Mandrake has a nice newbie friendly tool to do backups for you. Make sure drakxtools is installed then, Mandrake Control CentreSystemBackups It will back up your /home and /etc folders to CD, ftp, rsync, webdav or ssh automatically at regular intervals. You can configure drakbackup to do a full backup, or an incremental backup from the previous one. derek Thanks derek - suppose I ought to have thought Mandrake would do something like this. Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT - backups
Hello Derek, Friday, March 4, 2005, 1:29:09 AM, Derek wrote: DJ As usual Mandrake has a nice newbie friendly tool to do backups DJ for you. DJ Make sure drakxtools is installed then, DJ Mandrake Control CentreSystemBackups DJ It will back up your /home and /etc folders to CD, ftp, rsync, DJ webdav or ssh automatically at regular intervals. You can DJ configure drakbackup to do a full backup, or an incremental backup DJ from the previous one. Does this backup include a verify step, especially if to CD/DVD, for us paranoid types? :-)) -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT - backups
On Friday 04 March 2005 20:30, rikona wrote: Hello Derek, Friday, March 4, 2005, 1:29:09 AM, Derek wrote: DJ As usual Mandrake has a nice newbie friendly tool to do backups DJ for you. DJ Make sure drakxtools is installed then, DJ Mandrake Control CentreSystemBackups DJ It will back up your /home and /etc folders to CD, ftp, rsync, DJ webdav or ssh automatically at regular intervals. You can DJ configure drakbackup to do a full backup, or an incremental backup DJ from the previous one. Does this backup include a verify step, especially if to CD/DVD, for us paranoid types? :-)) I have never tried it to CD, but I can confirm when you do an ssh backup you will be sent an email with a positive acknowledgement that the files were received intact on the server. I took a look at the code, and it does not seem to do a verify after write on CD. If you need that feature then raise a feature request on Bugzilla. Drakbackup is maintained by Stew Benedict. He often can be found on the expert list. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
