Re: [newbie] Mandrake linux with windows me, help...

2001-06-27 Thread mooseman

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while i agree with a lot of what you said regarding windows and hardware 
issues and the support that is out there, i don't agree with the viable 
indefinately.
this would be perhaps true if you never used it or installed any software on 
it.
my experience with umpteen hundred win machines around here is that after 12 
months of operation, you are on borrowed time before weird issues start to 
crop up.
however, if you never install any of MS other software like office, or 
upgrade IE, and just use software that follows the rules of not F-**ing with 
the OS then it runs a LOT longer without problems.

anyways, i guess my rant is OT.
so, i should end my part.

moose.

On Tuesday 26 June 2001 18:00, you wrote:
 On Tuesday 26 June 2001 04:44 pm, Jason Guidry wrote:
  Should be able to resize your windows partition and then install on
  the remaining space.  Make sure the windows partition is defragd and
  healthy or it will give you problems.
 
  If that doesn't work, then try partition magic and resize.
 
  Or, what I really recommend is backing everything up and wipe the
  whole disk clean and start over.

I agree. Before you attempt to resize active partitons it's only
 prudent to back up everything you want or can't afford to loose. So why
 resize? Wipe and start over, replace your data from the backups.

.  This way you can reinstall windows with minimum
  pain.  All operating systems, but especially windows, experience
  bit-rot which will slow sown your system, and will only be fixed by
  re-installing regularly (3-6 months depending on use).

bit-rot ??  I sort'a kind'a think that's a myth, ala urban legend.
 Windoze, even the bug laden W95 can be kept viable indefinitely. Most
 of the problems Winblows users have are user, and lately win-hardware
 problems. The first one is that they never want to, or do learn how to
 properly maintain the OS. Most believe they don't or shouldn't have to.

   Just like Linux, administration of the OS is the users responsibility.
 I also tend to agree with those who've posted on another thread that
 there's just as many resources for user support for Winblows as there
 is for Linux. Most windoze users just don't seek it out tho. Also, with
 either, or any OS for that matter, hardware knowledge is paramount.

   Users don't know, or wanna admit, that they or their hardware is the
 problem, so it gets blamed on the OS.




RE: [newbie] Mandrake linux with windows me, help...

2001-06-26 Thread Jason Guidry

Should be able to resize your windows partition and then install on the
remaining space.  Make sure the windows partition is defragd and healthy or
it will give you problems.

If that doesn't work, then try partition magic and resize.

Or, what I really recommend is backing everything up and wipe the whole disk
clean and start over.  Make sure you have an OS, applications and data
partition for windows and then the standard linux partitions.  This way you
can reinstall windows with minimum pain.  All operating systems, but
especially windows, experience bit-rot which will slow sown your system,
and will only be fixed by re-installing regularly (3-6 months depending on
use).

-Original Message-
From: Ravi Malghan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake linux with windows me, help...

Hello: I am tyring to install Mandrake Linux 8.0 on a
laptop which
has one 20Gb and windows me installed on it. Do I have
to use partition
magic and partition the drive first or can the
installation process
use (say 5Gb) for the linux during the installation
process. I am stuck
at the place where it is decides about the mopunt
point/partition etc?
I want to have dual boot with Windows me (15G) and
linux (5GB)

Could somebody help me or provide me pointers.

Thanks
Ravi

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake linux with windows me, help...

2001-06-26 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Tuesday 26 June 2001 04:44 pm, Jason Guidry wrote:
 Should be able to resize your windows partition and then install on
 the remaining space.  Make sure the windows partition is defragd and
 healthy or it will give you problems.

 If that doesn't work, then try partition magic and resize.

 Or, what I really recommend is backing everything up and wipe the
 whole disk clean and start over.

   I agree. Before you attempt to resize active partitons it's only 
prudent to back up everything you want or can't afford to loose. So why 
resize? Wipe and start over, replace your data from the backups.

   .  This way you can reinstall windows with minimum
 pain.  All operating systems, but especially windows, experience
 bit-rot which will slow sown your system, and will only be fixed by
 re-installing regularly (3-6 months depending on use).

   bit-rot ??  I sort'a kind'a think that's a myth, ala urban legend. 
Windoze, even the bug laden W95 can be kept viable indefinitely. Most 
of the problems Winblows users have are user, and lately win-hardware 
problems. The first one is that they never want to, or do learn how to 
properly maintain the OS. Most believe they don't or shouldn't have to.

  Just like Linux, administration of the OS is the users responsibility.
I also tend to agree with those who've posted on another thread that 
there's just as many resources for user support for Winblows as there 
is for Linux. Most windoze users just don't seek it out tho. Also, with 
either, or any OS for that matter, hardware knowledge is paramount.

  Users don't know, or wanna admit, that they or their hardware is the 
problem, so it gets blamed on the OS.
-- 
Tom Brinkman  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

 -Original Message-
 From: Ravi Malghan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Mandrake linux with windows me, help...

 Hello: I am tyring to install Mandrake Linux 8.0 on a
 laptop which
 has one 20Gb and windows me installed on it. Do I have
 to use partition
 magic and partition the drive first or can the
 installation process
 use (say 5Gb) for the linux during the installation
 process. I am stuck
 at the place where it is decides about the mopunt
 point/partition etc?
 I want to have dual boot with Windows me (15G) and
 linux (5GB)

 Could somebody help me or provide me pointers.

 Thanks
 Ravi