Re: [newbie] Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird both borked after upgrade

2005-02-14 Thread Paul
Op Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:32:55 -0600 schreef Chuck MATTSEN:

Same with Firefox ... my bookmarks are still there, and my Google
toolbar is still there, but I've lost the ability to make profile
changes (it warns it couldn't write to the profile and any changes
would be lost upon shutting down the program).  Any ideas there, again,
other than starting over with the new profile?

You say you ran the programs as root at first go. Go and see if
something in your home-dir has changed ownership from your ID to root.
Perhaps that is where the mishap started?

Specifically ownership of ~/.thunderbird and ~/.phoenix are interesting
in this respect.

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird both borked after upgrade

2005-02-14 Thread Chuck MATTSEN
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 19:41 +0100, Paul wrote:
 You say you ran the programs as root at first go. Go and see if
 something in your home-dir has changed ownership from your ID to root.
 Perhaps that is where the mishap started?
 
 Specifically ownership of ~/.thunderbird and ~/.phoenix are interesting
 in this respect.

Nope, nothing amiss there, near as I can tell.  User still owns.  Hmmm.
Thx.
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Re: [newbie] Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird both borked after upgrade

2005-02-14 Thread Paul
Op Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:12:45 -0600 schreef Chuck MATTSEN:

 Specifically ownership of ~/.thunderbird and ~/.phoenix are
interesting  in this respect.

Nope, nothing amiss there, near as I can tell.  User still owns.  Hmmm.

I assume you also checked all the files within the tree(s).
Very weird...

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird both borked after upgrade

2005-02-14 Thread mike
Chuck MATTSEN wrote:
 Not urgent, actually, as I'm planning on switching from Thunderbird back
 to Evolution, as it will sync with the Tungsten E I have on the way :-),
 but I /would/ like to be able to access the mail which I now seem to
 have no access to; same with Firefox -- I know I can create a new
 profile there and rebuild what I need, but it'd be nice to have access
 to the old settings.
 
 The scenario is this:  Have been running older versions of both TB and
 FF until today, when I decided to take the two of them out of my urpmi
 skip.list and allow them to upgrade finally.  So, did urpmi, which did
 its thing, ran each once as root first (since that seemed to be critical
 with earlier upgrades), then attempted to run as usual.
 
 Thunderbird seems to have kept my account settings, and my folder
 directory even seems to show the proper counts for unread mail, etc., as
 I had left it before the upgrade, but nothing will show to the right ...
 neither a message listing nor anything in the preview pane.  Similarly,
 the get mail button seems to do nothing now.  Any ideas, other than
 creating a new profile and starting over?
 
 Same with Firefox ... my bookmarks are still there, and my Google
 toolbar is still there, but I've lost the ability to make profile
 changes (it warns it couldn't write to the profile and any changes would
 be lost upon shutting down the program).  Any ideas there, again, other
 than starting over with the new profile?
 
 I know that upgrades have been problematic from the get-go, but was
 hoping they'd ironed things out a bit better by now.  Oh, well.  Anyway,
 TIA for any pointers.  I've had little luck finding my way around the
 Mozilla forum/FAQs for this.
 

You could delete the .slt in your ~/.phoenix/default/
directory and restart Firefox.

Sometimes thats corrected some strange happenings for me. I did not
lose my settings when deleteing .slt. Restart Firefox and
it will create a new .slt with your old settings.

May help, I don't know, I don't use the mdk rpm version.

Mike




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Re: [newbie] Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird both borked after upgrade

2005-02-14 Thread Chuck MATTSEN
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 19:05 -0700, mike wrote:
 Chuck MATTSEN wrote:
  Same with Firefox ... my bookmarks are still there, and my Google
  toolbar is still there, but I've lost the ability to make profile
  changes (it warns it couldn't write to the profile and any changes would
  be lost upon shutting down the program).  Any ideas there, again, other
  than starting over with the new profile?

 You could delete the .slt in your ~/.phoenix/default/
 directory and restart Firefox.
 
 Sometimes thats corrected some strange happenings for me. I did not
 lose my settings when deleteing .slt. Restart Firefox and
 it will create a new .slt with your old settings.
 
 May help, I don't know, I don't use the mdk rpm version.

Thanks, but proved not to be necessary (at least with Firefox;
Thunderbird is still borked but, again, I'm migrating to Evolution,
anyway, just want to have access to that old mail if I can).  With
Firefox, what I ended up doing was doing an import of the bookmarks from
the old profile; it didn't balk at that at all.  Then I simply
downloaded and installed the plug-ins I wanted, as I'd likely have had
to update them anyway.  So, Firefox is fully functional again, and more
or less in the state it was prior to the upgrade (with the exception of
version changes, of course).  That was relatively painless.

Thunderbird is proving to be more challenging.  I tried copying the mail
dirs for safekeeping then a urpme followed by a urpmi, which gave me a
functional copy of TB, albeit with a brand new, empty profile.  Then
tried moving some of the old mail dirs to the new profile, and got
*some* of my mail back (Inbox and one other folder with unread mail
showed up, but none of the others ... odd).  I may end up just calling
the old mail a lost cause, unless someone has any other ideas.  I'm
still trying to find info at the Mozilla-TB forum, but I tend to get
lost there and find everything but what I'm looking for.  :-)

So, it's not in the critical category, but rather in the gee, wouldn't
it be great if category now ... still important, but

Thx.

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird both borked after upgrade

2005-02-14 Thread mike
Chuck MATTSEN wrote:

 Thunderbird is proving to be more challenging.  I tried copying the mail
 dirs for safekeeping then a urpme followed by a urpmi, which gave me a
 functional copy of TB, albeit with a brand new, empty profile.  Then
 tried moving some of the old mail dirs to the new profile, and got
 *some* of my mail back (Inbox and one other folder with unread mail
 showed up, but none of the others ... odd).  I may end up just calling
 the old mail a lost cause, unless someone has any other ideas.  I'm
 still trying to find info at the Mozilla-TB forum, but I tend to get
 lost there and find everything but what I'm looking for.  :-)
 
 So, it's not in the critical category, but rather in the gee, wouldn't
 it be great if category now ... still important, but
 
 Thx.


In mozilla not sure about Tbird but probably the same. Look in

~/.mozilla/default/.slt/Mail/smtp.xxx.xxx/

It lists all my mail folders.

You could try

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ locate Mail/smtp

and see if that turns up anything.

I guess it depends on how good of job urpme does :-)

Mike





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