Re: [newbie] Problem with mounting my flash drive

2005-04-10 Thread Paul Smith
On Apr 9, 2005 11:51 PM, Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On my system, a stock 10.1, with the standard upgrades, but
> > not with KDE upgraded to a newer version, plugging in a flash
> > drive results in it being mounted on /mnt/removable, and I am
> > able to access it without problem. But people that have
> > upgraded KDE have run into problems because of the other
> > packages that need to be upgraded to use the new KDE packages.
> > It seams to break the 10.1 hotplug setup...
> 
> When you upgrade to Thac's KDE, it also installs the HAL daemon
> which is responsible for changing the mount points, etc. I
> understand HAL is a good thing, but it's really annoying if
> you're not expecting its changes. The good news is that after
> installing Thac's KDE, you can uninstall HAL without uninstalling
> everything else KDE.

Actually, it is not a big deal to mount manually the flash drive.

Paul


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Re: [newbie] Problem with mounting my flash drive

2005-04-09 Thread Miark
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:24:17 -0500, Mikkel wrote:

> On my system, a stock 10.1, with the standard upgrades, but
> not with KDE upgraded to a newer version, plugging in a flash
> drive results in it being mounted on /mnt/removable, and I am
> able to access it without problem. But people that have
> upgraded KDE have run into problems because of the other
> packages that need to be upgraded to use the new KDE packages.
> It seams to break the 10.1 hotplug setup...

When you upgrade to Thac's KDE, it also installs the HAL daemon
which is responsible for changing the mount points, etc. I
understand HAL is a good thing, but it's really annoying if
you're not expecting its changes. The good news is that after
installing Thac's KDE, you can uninstall HAL without uninstalling
everything else KDE.

Miark


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Re: [newbie] Problem with mounting my flash drive

2005-04-09 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Dennis Myers wrote:
On Saturday 09 April 2005 05:14 am, Paul Smith wrote:
 

On Apr 9, 2005 5:02 AM, Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

I do not know why, but now I cannot use my flash drive, getting the
following error:
Could not mount device.
The reported error was:
mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk
 

Paul, I was having the same problem in 10.2 rc2 with cooker upgrade. So
I set the append line in lilo to noapic & nolapic and on boot with the
device plugged in or plugging in after It is detected and accessable.
HTH
   

Oh man, if I would read and not  jump.. any chance you went to
console and typed in as "su" mount /dev/sda1  /media/usbdisk ?   or look
in MCC and see what harddrake calls the device. HTH
 

Thanks, Dennis, but I do not understand quite well what you mean. Yes,
if I run the command
mount /media/usbdisk
then, I can use my flash disk.
Paul
   

Right, this seems to be the way 10.1 works. It must first have a removable 
drive mounted and then it will allow it to be read. 10.2 has changed this and 
works much better for hotplugging. 10.2 should be out in a few days now. 
 

On my system, a stock 10.1, with the standard upgrades, but not with KDE 
upgraded to a newer version, plugging in a flash drive results in it 
being mounted on /mnt/removable, and I am able to access it without 
problem. But people that have upgraded KDE have run into problems 
because of the other packages that need to be upgraded to use the new 
KDE packages. It seams to break the 10.1 hotplug setup...

Mikkel
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Re: [newbie] Problem with mounting my flash drive

2005-04-09 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 09 April 2005 05:14 am, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Apr 9, 2005 5:02 AM, Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I do not know why, but now I cannot use my flash drive, getting the
> > > > following error:
> > > >
> > > > Could not mount device.
> > > > The reported error was:
> > > > mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk
> > >
> > > Paul, I was having the same problem in 10.2 rc2 with cooker upgrade. So
> > > I set the append line in lilo to noapic & nolapic and on boot with the
> > > device plugged in or plugging in after It is detected and accessable.
> > > HTH
> >
> > Oh man, if I would read and not  jump.. any chance you went to
> > console and typed in as "su" mount /dev/sda1  /media/usbdisk ?   or look
> > in MCC and see what harddrake calls the device. HTH
>
> Thanks, Dennis, but I do not understand quite well what you mean. Yes,
> if I run the command
>
> mount /media/usbdisk
>
> then, I can use my flash disk.
>
> Paul
Right, this seems to be the way 10.1 works. It must first have a removable 
drive mounted and then it will allow it to be read. 10.2 has changed this and 
works much better for hotplugging. 10.2 should be out in a few days now. 
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Re: [newbie] Problem with mounting my flash drive

2005-04-09 Thread Paul Smith
On Apr 9, 2005 5:02 AM, Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I do not know why, but now I cannot use my flash drive, getting the
> > > following error:
> > >
> > > Could not mount device.
> > > The reported error was:
> > > mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk
> >
> > Paul, I was having the same problem in 10.2 rc2 with cooker upgrade. So I
> > set the append line in lilo to noapic & nolapic and on boot with the device
> > plugged in or plugging in after It is detected and accessable. HTH
> 
> Oh man, if I would read and not  jump.. any chance you went to console and
> typed in as "su" mount /dev/sda1  /media/usbdisk ?   or look in MCC and see
> what harddrake calls the device. HTH

Thanks, Dennis, but I do not understand quite well what you mean. Yes,
if I run the command

mount /media/usbdisk

then, I can use my flash disk.

Paul


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Re: [newbie] Problem with mounting my flash drive

2005-04-08 Thread Dennis Myers
On Friday 08 April 2005 09:52 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> On Thursday 07 April 2005 04:13 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
> > Dear All
> >
> > I do not know why, but now I cannot use my flash drive, getting the
> > following error:
> >
> > Could not mount device.
> > The reported error was:
> > mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Paul
>
> Paul, I was having the same problem in 10.2 rc2 with cooker upgrade. So I
> set the append line in lilo to noapic & nolapic and on boot with the device
> plugged in or plugging in after It is detected and accessable. HTH

Oh man, if I would read and not  jump.. any chance you went to console and 
typed in as "su" mount /dev/sda1  /media/usbdisk ?   or look in MCC and see 
what harddrake calls the device. HTH


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Re: [newbie] Problem with mounting my flash drive

2005-04-08 Thread Dennis Myers
On Thursday 07 April 2005 04:13 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
> Dear All
>
> I do not know why, but now I cannot use my flash drive, getting the
> following error:
>
> Could not mount device.
> The reported error was:
> mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Paul
Paul, I was having the same problem in 10.2 rc2 with cooker upgrade. So I set 
the append line in lilo to noapic & nolapic and on boot with the device 
plugged in or plugging in after It is detected and accessable. HTH 
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Re: [newbie] Problem with mounting my flash drive

2005-04-08 Thread Paul Smith
On Apr 8, 2005 10:12 AM, Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   This has me stumped. If you did not try to mount the drive as a user,
> > then you should not have gotten the error message. The standard hotplug
> > settings will mount a flash drive on /mnt/removable unless it things the
> > drive is realy a camera, and then it mounts it on /mnt/camera.
> >   Now, if you had clicked on a desktop icon, and it generated this
> > message, then I would want to start looking deeper at the window manager
> > configuration.
> >   At this point, unless someone else has a better idea, I think we are
> > going to need to know more of the secquence when you plug in the flash
> > drive.
> >
> > Plug in the drive
> > ...
> > ...
> > Get the user can not mount /dev/sda1 message
> >
> > We need to know what goes on between plugging in the drive, and you
> > getting the message.
> 
> Well, Mikkel, I just plug my flash drive and afterwards an icon
> appears on the desktop. Then, I click on the icon and soon that
> message shows up. To answer Greg: I am not running at all Mandrake
> 10.2; I am using Mandrake 10.1 and KDE 3.4.

I would like to add that if run, as root, the command 

mount /media/usbdisk

then, I can access to my flash drive by clicking on its desktop icon.

Paul


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Re: [newbie] Problem with mounting my flash drive

2005-04-08 Thread Paul Smith
On Apr 8, 2005 4:12 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   This has me stumped. If you did not try to mount the drive as a user,
> then you should not have gotten the error message. The standard hotplug
> settings will mount a flash drive on /mnt/removable unless it things the
> drive is realy a camera, and then it mounts it on /mnt/camera.
>   Now, if you had clicked on a desktop icon, and it generated this
> message, then I would want to start looking deeper at the window manager
> configuration.
>   At this point, unless someone else has a better idea, I think we are
> going to need to know more of the secquence when you plug in the flash
> drive.
> 
> Plug in the drive
> ...
> ...
> Get the user can not mount /dev/sda1 message
> 
> We need to know what goes on between plugging in the drive, and you
> getting the message.

Well, Mikkel, I just plug my flash drive and afterwards an icon
appears on the desktop. Then, I click on the icon and soon that
message shows up. To answer Greg: I am not running at all Mandrake
10.2; I am using Mandrake 10.1 and KDE 3.4.

Paul


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Re: [newbie] Problem with mounting my flash drive

2005-04-07 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 07 April 2005 11:12 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> # This file is edited by fstab-sync - see 'man fstab-sync' for details

If you have this in your /etc/fstab, you can't be running 10.1 , since this is 
provided by hal and that is a feature in 10.2, and is non-existent in 10.1.  
Are you sure you are not running one of the beta's or rc's for 10.2.  If you 
are, there was a bug in hal that prevented some devices from being 
automounted, you should upgrade to the latest hal and make sure 
gnome-volume-manager is set to mount removable devices automatically.
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Re: [newbie] Problem with mounting my flash drive

2005-04-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Paul Smith wrote:
On Apr 7, 2005 11:59 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks, Mikkel.

Dumb question time - did the flash drive get mounted automaticly on
/mnt/removable? This is what usualy happens when you plug one in. If you
plug in a second one, it gets mounted on /mnt/removable2 or something
like that.

I use only one flash drive.
 

If that did not happen, how did you try to mount the flash drive that
generated that message?

I simply plug my flash drive.
 

Some information that would be helpfull:
What version on Mandrake?

10.1.

What is the output of "cat /etc/fstab"?

$ cat /etc/fstab
# This file is edited by fstab-sync - see 'man fstab-sync' for details
/dev/hdb1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
/dev/hdb6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto
umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec,users 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat
umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,uid=501,codepage=850,gid=501,umask=007 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hdb5 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy   auto   
pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed 0 0
$

Regards,
Paul
>
Paul,
 This has me stumped. If you did not try to mount the drive as a user, 
then you should not have gotten the error message. The standard hotplug 
settings will mount a flash drive on /mnt/removable unless it things the 
drive is realy a camera, and then it mounts it on /mnt/camera.
 Now, if you had clicked on a desktop icon, and it generated this 
message, then I would want to start looking deeper at the window manager 
configuration.
 At this point, unless someone else has a better idea, I think we are 
going to need to know more of the secquence when you plug in the flash 
drive.

Plug in the drive
   ...
   ...
Get the user can not mount /dev/sda1 message
We need to know what goes on between plugging in the drive, and you 
getting the message.

Mikkel
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