Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog...
I hate to disagree with Alan but I support markO,s view. I just last week upgraded the drives in 1 of my systems. I put in 2 15GB IBM 7200rpm ATA/100 drives ($104 each) and a Promise Ultra100 PCI Controller Card ($35). Should I choose I can now hook up 8 IDE devices to that system, 4 to the MOBO and 4 to the Controller card, although presently I have only 5 attached. Now a big BTW. Linux does not support ATA100 drives. So if you wanted to run Mandrake on that system you would need either at least 1 ATA66 or 33 hd or you would need to operate the ATA100 drive at 1 of those rates. Charles - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog... Mark...thanks for the advice. I will definately keep that in mind. Makes a lot of sense too. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, markOpoleO wrote: Mark, Don't purchase SCSI unless you have a NEED for them (mission critical stuff), IDE ATA66/100 drives are still the best solution, i know lots people who used to go SCSI changing to IDE cause there Cost/performance diffrence. You can double your hardrive space on IDE for the cost of SCSI. And you won't tell a diffrence in everyday computing unless you are moving tons of 100meg files around every day. (and that is not happening for everyday user). Minor off topic, but I have known people who hear about SCSI and think its "all that" and go spend lots of money just cause someone said it was fast, and they are wondering why they can't tell a difference on there computer with 7 games installed on it. :) Not being critical of you, just trying to be helpfull. markOpoleO - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog... Alan, Am I understanding you correctly? You have Linux on one of the SCSI drives and the /boot partition(s), the SWAP partitions, and the boot manager on the IDE drive? The reason I ask is because I'm considering building a new system and using SCSI drives in it for the sheer speed of them, and someone had mentioned to me that I would have to disable the IDE interfaces because otherwise the SCSI's won't boot. -- Mark
Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog...
Charles A Edwards wrote: I hate to disagree with Alan but I support markO,s view. [snip] Charleswhat makes you think we disagree? Alan
Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog...
Alan, Am I understanding you correctly? You have Linux on one of the SCSI drives and the /boot partition(s), the SWAP partitions, and the boot manager on the IDE drive? The reason I ask is because I'm considering building a new system and using SCSI drives in it for the sheer speed of them, and someone had mentioned to me that I would have to disable the IDE interfaces because otherwise the SCSI's won't boot. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote: "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: Is it possible to setup up a small 2nd HD running DR-DOS, and that way have access to older DOS games and still not have a Mickeysoft product on my 'Nix box? [snip] Ronthat's exactly what I have on my system. I have 3 scsi drives, but my boot drive is an ide drive with dr-dos in the active (hda1) partition. It has both Partition Magic and Boot Magic on it and Boot Magic is my multi-boot manager. The rest of the drive is comprised of linux swap space and linux /boot partitions. Alan
Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog...
Mark Weaver wrote: Alan, Am I understanding you correctly? You have Linux on one of the SCSI drives and the /boot partition(s), the SWAP partitions, and the boot manager on the IDE drive? The reason I ask is because I'm considering building a new system and using SCSI drives in it for the sheer speed of them, and someone had mentioned to me that I would have to disable the IDE interfaces because otherwise the SCSI's won't boot. [snip] Markin my bios I have the second channel of the IDE controller disabled , but that's because I have nothing hooked up to it and I figured that some day I might need the extra interrupt. So on the primary channel of the onboard IDE controller I have a 1.5 gig IDE HD as master and a ls-120 as slave. On the Adaptec scsi controller on channel A I have two 18.2 gig and one 9.1 gig scsi drives as scsi 0, 1, 2. On the same channel I also have a zip drive as scsi 5 and a CD-ROM burner as scsi 6. On scsi channel B, I have a flat bed scanner as scsi 6. I have a combo 3 1/2 5 1/4 floppy drive that is hooked to the floppy controller. In the system bios the 3 1/2 floppy is the primary boot device, the ls-120 is the secondary boot device, and the IDE drive is third boot device. If the bios detects a bootable CD in the scsi CD burner it overrides everything and boots from that device. So, as long as there's no discs in the 3 1/2 floppy or the ls-120 and there's not a bootable CD in the burner then the boot device is the IDE drive. It boots with BootMagic. I configure BootMagic and do partitioning with Partition Magic from the 200 meg dos (primary and bootable) partition running DR-DOS 7.02 on the IDE drive. Also on the IDE drive is an extended partition containing a common Linux swap partition (for use by all Linux installations on the system) and seperate boot partitions for all of the Linux installations on the system (I make them just one cylinder (about 7.8 megs) each. By the way this system booted and ran just fine when I had it set up more conventionally without the IDE hard drive and booting from the scsi 0 drive. The ls-120 was the master on the primary IDE controller then. Alan
Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog...
"Ronald J. Hall" wrote: Is it possible to setup up a small 2nd HD running DR-DOS, and that way have access to older DOS games and still not have a Mickeysoft product on my 'Nix box? [snip] Ronthat's exactly what I have on my system. I have 3 scsi drives, but my boot drive is an ide drive with dr-dos in the active (hda1) partition. It has both Partition Magic and Boot Magic on it and Boot Magic is my multi-boot manager. The rest of the drive is comprised of linux swap space and linux /boot partitions. Alan