Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog...

2000-10-01 Thread Charles A Edwards



   I hate to disagree with Alan but I support markO,s view.
   I just last week upgraded the drives in 1 of my systems. I put in 2 15GB
IBM 7200rpm ATA/100 drives ($104 each) and a Promise
Ultra100 PCI Controller Card ($35).
   Should I choose I can now hook up 8 IDE devices to that system,
4 to the MOBO and 4 to the Controller card, although presently I have only 5
attached.
   Now a big BTW. Linux does not support ATA100 drives.
   So if you wanted to run Mandrake on that system you would need either at
least 1 ATA66 or 33 hd or you would need to operate the ATA100 drive at 1 of
those rates.

   Charles


- Original Message -
From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog...


 Mark...thanks for the advice. I will definately keep that in mind. Makes a
 lot of sense too.

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 Mark
 
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 On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, markOpoleO wrote:

  Mark,
 
  Don't purchase SCSI unless you have a NEED for them (mission critical
  stuff), IDE ATA66/100 drives are still the best solution, i know lots
people
  who used to go SCSI changing to IDE cause there Cost/performance
diffrence.
  You can double your hardrive space on IDE for the cost of SCSI.  And you
  won't tell a diffrence in everyday computing unless you are moving tons
of
  100meg files around every day. (and that is not happening for everyday
  user).  Minor off topic, but I have known people who hear about SCSI and
  think its "all that" and go spend lots of money just cause someone said
it
  was fast, and they are wondering why they can't tell a difference on
there
  computer with 7 games installed on it.  :)  Not being critical of you,
just
  trying to be helpfull.
 
  markOpoleO
  - Original Message -
  From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 8:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog...
 
 
   Alan,
  
   Am I understanding you correctly? You have Linux on one of the SCSI
drives
   and the /boot partition(s), the SWAP partitions, and the boot manager
on
   the IDE drive?
  
   The reason I ask is because I'm considering building a new system and
   using SCSI drives in it for the sheer speed of them, and someone had
   mentioned to me that I would have to disable the IDE interfaces
because
   otherwise the SCSI's won't boot.
  
   --
   Mark
  





Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog...

2000-10-01 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Charles A Edwards wrote:
 
I hate to disagree with Alan but I support markO,s view.
[snip]

Charleswhat makes you think we disagree?

Alan




Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog...

2000-09-30 Thread Mark Weaver

Alan,

Am I understanding you correctly? You have Linux on one of the SCSI drives
and the /boot partition(s), the SWAP partitions, and the boot manager on
the IDE drive?

The reason I ask is because I'm considering building a new system and
using SCSI drives in it for the sheer speed of them, and someone had
mentioned to me that I would have to disable the IDE interfaces because
otherwise the SCSI's won't boot.

-- 
Mark

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On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:

 "Ronald J. Hall" wrote:
  
  Is it possible to setup up a small 2nd HD running DR-DOS, and that way have
  access to older DOS games and still not have a Mickeysoft product on my 'Nix
  box?
  
 [snip]
 
 Ronthat's exactly what I have on my system.  I have 3 scsi
 drives, but my boot drive is an ide drive with dr-dos in the
 active (hda1) partition.  It has both Partition Magic and Boot
 Magic on it and Boot Magic is my multi-boot manager.  The rest
 of the drive is comprised of linux swap space and linux /boot
 partitions.
 
 Alan
 
 





Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog...

2000-09-30 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Mark Weaver wrote:
 
 Alan,
 
 Am I understanding you correctly? You have Linux on one of the SCSI drives
 and the /boot partition(s), the SWAP partitions, and the boot manager on
 the IDE drive?
 
 The reason I ask is because I'm considering building a new system and
 using SCSI drives in it for the sheer speed of them, and someone had
 mentioned to me that I would have to disable the IDE interfaces because
 otherwise the SCSI's won't boot.
[snip]

Markin my bios I have the second channel of the IDE
controller disabled , but that's because I have nothing hooked
up to it and I figured that some day I might need the extra
interrupt.  So on the primary channel of the onboard IDE
controller I have a 1.5 gig IDE HD as master and a ls-120 as
slave.  

On the Adaptec scsi controller on channel A I have two 18.2
gig and one 9.1 gig scsi drives as scsi 0, 1,  2.  On the
same channel I also have a zip drive as scsi 5 and a CD-ROM
burner as scsi 6.  On scsi channel B, I have a flat bed
scanner as scsi 6.

I have a combo 3 1/2  5 1/4 floppy drive that is hooked to
the floppy controller.  In the system bios the 3 1/2 floppy is
the primary boot device, the ls-120 is the secondary boot
device, and  the IDE drive is third boot device.  If the bios
detects a bootable CD in the scsi CD burner it overrides
everything and boots from that device.  

So, as long as there's no discs in the 3 1/2 floppy or the
ls-120 and there's not a bootable CD in the burner then the
boot device is the IDE drive.  It boots with BootMagic.  I
configure BootMagic and do partitioning with Partition Magic
from the 200 meg dos (primary and bootable) partition running
DR-DOS 7.02 on the IDE drive.

Also on the IDE drive is an extended partition containing a
common Linux swap partition (for use by all Linux
installations on the system) and seperate boot partitions for
all of the Linux installations on the system (I make them just
one cylinder (about 7.8 megs) each.

By the way this system booted and ran just fine when I had it
set up more conventionally without the IDE hard drive and
booting from the scsi 0 drive.  The ls-120 was the master on
the primary IDE controller then.

Alan




Re: [newbie] Question about 2nd HD/dual booting/NOT Windog...

2000-09-29 Thread Alan Shoemaker

"Ronald J. Hall" wrote:
 
 Is it possible to setup up a small 2nd HD running DR-DOS, and that way have
 access to older DOS games and still not have a Mickeysoft product on my 'Nix
 box?
 
[snip]

Ronthat's exactly what I have on my system.  I have 3 scsi
drives, but my boot drive is an ide drive with dr-dos in the
active (hda1) partition.  It has both Partition Magic and Boot
Magic on it and Boot Magic is my multi-boot manager.  The rest
of the drive is comprised of linux swap space and linux /boot
partitions.

Alan