Re: [newbie] Rootkit ?

2005-01-04 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 08:20, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 When doing a chkrootkit everything looks fine except this :

 Checking `asp'... not infected
 Checking `bindshell'... not infected
 Checking `lkm'... Checking `rexedcs'... not found
 Checking `sniffer'... eth0: PF_PACKET(/sbin/dhclient)
 Checking `w55808'... not infected
 Checking `wted'... nothing deleted
 Checking `scalper'... not infected
 Checking `slapper'... not infected

 What is this sniffer thing and does it matter ?

Packet sniffer.  If you are running an Intrusion Detection System like 
portsentry or Snort, that would account for the detection of a packet sniffer 
as IDS's have to sniff packet to detect intrusions.

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Re: [newbie] Rootkit ?

2005-01-04 Thread Avi Schwartz
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
When doing a chkrootkit everything looks fine except this :
Checking `asp'... not infected
Checking `bindshell'... not infected
Checking `lkm'... Checking `rexedcs'... not found
Checking `sniffer'... eth0: PF_PACKET(/sbin/dhclient)
Checking `w55808'... not infected
Checking `wted'... nothing deleted
Checking `scalper'... not infected
Checking `slapper'... not infected
 

I get the same message so I googled around and found that the dhcp 
client and server are using the same port used by the sniffer (exploit?) 
and chkrootkit cannot distinguish between them thus the message.

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Re: [newbie] Rootkit ?

2005-01-04 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 15:07, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 January 2005 08:20, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  When doing a chkrootkit everything looks fine except this :
 
  Checking `asp'... not infected
  Checking `bindshell'... not infected
  Checking `lkm'... Checking `rexedcs'... not found
  Checking `sniffer'... eth0: PF_PACKET(/sbin/dhclient)
  Checking `w55808'... not infected
  Checking `wted'... nothing deleted
  Checking `scalper'... not infected
  Checking `slapper'... not infected
 
  What is this sniffer thing and does it matter ?

 Packet sniffer.  If you are running an Intrusion Detection System
 like portsentry or Snort, that would account for the detection of
 a packet sniffer as IDS's have to sniff packet to detect
 intrusions.

Thanks Bryan and Avi, but I'm running snort or portsentry or 
anything. So where does this sniffer come from ? - To me it 
sounds pretty much like one of those thousands of Windows-spyware 
malignancies.  Never thought a Linux system could get one, but 
maybe I'll have to think again ?

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Re: [newbie] Rootkit ?

2005-01-04 Thread Avi Schwartz
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 15:07, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 

On Tuesday 04 January 2005 08:20, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
   

When doing a chkrootkit everything looks fine except this :
Checking `asp'... not infected
Checking `bindshell'... not infected
Checking `lkm'... Checking `rexedcs'... not found
Checking `sniffer'... eth0: PF_PACKET(/sbin/dhclient)
Checking `w55808'... not infected
Checking `wted'... nothing deleted
Checking `scalper'... not infected
Checking `slapper'... not infected
What is this sniffer thing and does it matter ?
 

Packet sniffer.  If you are running an Intrusion Detection System
like portsentry or Snort, that would account for the detection of
a packet sniffer as IDS's have to sniff packet to detect
intrusions.
   

Thanks Bryan and Avi, but I'm running snort or portsentry or 
anything. So where does this sniffer come from ? - To me it 
sounds pretty much like one of those thousands of Windows-spyware 
malignancies.  Never thought a Linux system could get one, but 
maybe I'll have to think again ?
 

Please re-read my previous email, but if you prefer, also check the following:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/01/msg05013.html
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Re: [newbie] Rootkit ?

2005-01-04 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 16:38, Avi Schwartz wrote:

snip
 Thanks Bryan and Avi, but I'm running snort or portsentry or
 anything. So where does this sniffer come from ? - To me it
 sounds pretty much like one of those thousands of
  Windows-spyware malignancies.  Never thought a Linux system
  could get one, but maybe I'll have to think again ?

 Please re-read my previous email, but if you prefer, also check
 the following:

 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/01/msg05013.html

 Avi
/snip

Thanks, Avi.  Now I have calmed down again.

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Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter

2004-09-15 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 08:50 pm, Chris wrote:

 The source is super easy to install, it has its own install script, takes
 about two minutes to run through the complete installation.  By the way, I
 was going to start another thread but since we're on the subject of root
 killer, it reports that I'm in promiscuous mode, what the hell is that and
 how do I get out of it?  I've googled and googled/linux and I've never
 really found a good answer.  I'm not running any servers, that I'm aware
 of.

If you are running an intrusion detection system, such as Snort, the 
application itself will put the ethernet device into promiscuous mode so that 
it can listen to all communication attempts to know when you are being probed 
and attacked.  Network sniffers, some port sentry applications, network usage 
monitors, etc. all require the ethernet device to be in promiscuous mode in 
order to monitor communications.

The only warning attached to a device being switched to promiscuous mode is 
that a sniffer may have been surreptiously loaded onto your system.  Check to 
make sure that you do not have a sniffer running that YOU are unaware of,
other than that, it is really no problem.

From the web:
1) In a network, promiscuous mode allows a network device to intercept and 
read each network packet that arrives in its entirety. This mode of operation 
is sometimes given to a network snoop server that captures and saves all 
packets for analysis (for example, for monitoring network usage).
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Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter

2004-09-15 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
On September 14, 2004 18:17, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Tuesday 14 September 2004 12:35 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
  On September 14, 2004 07:37, Tom Brinkman wrote:
  ...
 
   urpmi rkhunter
 
  I have contrib defined (using proxad.net, b/c all the North
  American mirrors seem to be unreliable), but urpmi rkhunter
  gives me no package named rkhunter. I tried a search for rk
  and one for hunt too, in case the spelling was slightly off,
  but there's nothing that resembles rkhunter showing up.

  Mea culpa.  Since it's just a noarch script, I thought it
 would be available for all Mandrake versions.  I didn't check.
 Anyhow, you can get the 10.1 CE version here:
 ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/med
ia/contrib/rkhunter-1.1.6-2mdk.noarch.rpm

   It should work on any Mandrake version.

Thanks, that worked better.

It gave me a warning about the signature not matching, which worries me a 
little with a security app! I know others report getting this a lot, but I 
don't normally. But I went ahead with the install anyway.

I noticed it has a --update option to get all the latest scan info, so I did 
that first. I don't know if this eliminates the benefits of going to 1.1.8.

Pretty impressive list of things checked. It didn't find any nasties on my 
system, but it reported the following:

* Application version scan
   - GnuPG 1.2.4  [ OK ]
   - OpenSSL 0.9.7c   [ Vulnerable ]
   - Procmail MTA 3.22[ OK ]
   - ProFTPd 1.2.9[ Vulnerable ]

I just updated everything on Monday (after switching to a working mirror). Any 
idea what's up with these vulnerability warnings? Has Mandrake not released 
fixed versions of these apps yet? Should I wait or install from source? I 
don't use these apps. Not directly anyway, but maybe something else uses 
them?

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Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter

2004-09-14 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 21:21, Chris wrote:
 Found this little app in my Freshmeat daily newsletter.  Seems to check much 
 more than chkrootkit.

That being the case, you or someone else should go to Mandrakeclub and
propose this program as an rpm for packaging by the contributors in the
rpm voting section.

As far as I know, chkrootkit has no competition except for this applet. 
If this applet is better maybe it could replace chkrootkit.

 License: GNU General Public License (GPL)
 
 URL: http://freshmeat.net/projects/rkhunter/

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Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter

2004-09-14 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
On September 14, 2004 07:37, Tom Brinkman wrote:
...
 urpmi rkhunter

I have contrib defined (using proxad.net, b/c all the North American mirrors 
seem to be unreliable), but urpmi rkhunter gives me no package named 
rkhunter. I tried a search for rk and one for hunt too, in case the 
spelling was slightly off, but there's nothing that resembles rkhunter 
showing up.

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Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter

2004-09-14 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 12:35 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
 On September 14, 2004 07:37, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 ...

  urpmi rkhunter

 I have contrib defined (using proxad.net, b/c all the North
 American mirrors seem to be unreliable), but urpmi rkhunter
 gives me no package named rkhunter. I tried a search for rk
 and one for hunt too, in case the spelling was slightly off,
 but there's nothing that resembles rkhunter showing up.

 Mea culpa.  Since it's just a noarch script, I thought it 
would be available for all Mandrake versions.  I didn't check.
Anyhow, you can get the 10.1 CE version here:
ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/media/contrib/rkhunter-1.1.6-2mdk.noarch.rpm

  It should work on any Mandrake version.
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Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter

2004-09-14 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 08:17 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:

  Mea culpa.  Since it's just a noarch script, I thought it
 would be available for all Mandrake versions.  I didn't check.
 Anyhow, you can get the 10.1 CE version here:
 ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/med
ia/contrib/rkhunter-1.1.6-2mdk.noarch.rpm

   It should work on any Mandrake version.

Or you could go here:
ftp://ftp.webtrek.com/pub/rpms/rkhunter-1.1.8-1.noarch.rpm

which is 1.1.8.  I am running 10.0 CE but updated from Community so it should 
be just a little behind cooker.  As long as you are interested, you might 
want to get the latest version.

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Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter

2004-09-14 Thread Chris
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 07:34 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Tuesday 14 September 2004 08:17 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
   Mea culpa.  Since it's just a noarch script, I thought it
  would be available for all Mandrake versions.  I didn't check.
  Anyhow, you can get the 10.1 CE version here:
  ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586
 /med ia/contrib/rkhunter-1.1.6-2mdk.noarch.rpm
 
It should work on any Mandrake version.

 Or you could go here:
 ftp://ftp.webtrek.com/pub/rpms/rkhunter-1.1.8-1.noarch.rpm

 which is 1.1.8.  I am running 10.0 CE but updated from Community so it
 should be just a little behind cooker.  As long as you are interested,
 you might want to get the latest version.

The source is super easy to install, it has its own install script, takes 
about two minutes to run through the complete installation.  By the way, I 
was going to start another thread but since we're on the subject of root 
killer, it reports that I'm in promiscuous mode, what the hell is that and 
how do I get out of it?  I've googled and googled/linux and I've never 
really found a good answer.  I'm not running any servers, that I'm aware 
of.

Thanks for any help

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Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter

2004-09-13 Thread Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:21:44 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter

 Found this little app in my Freshmeat daily newsletter.  Seems to check much 
 more than chkrootkit.
 
 About: Rootkit Hunter scans files and systems for known and unknown
 rootkits, backdoors, and sniffers. The package contains one shell script,
 a few text-based databases, and optional Perl modules. It should run on
 almost every Unix clone. 
 
 Changes: This release has extended support for Red Hat 6.2 and Enterprise
 Linux (AS/ES). Suckit detection has been improved, FreeBSD version
 detection is better, path searches are improved, and several operating
 systems are updated (new hashes).
 
 License: GNU General Public License (GPL)
 
 URL: http://freshmeat.net/projects/rkhunter/
 
 -- 
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Yes, I have been using rkhunter for a while, and 
I agree that it seems as though it does a more 
thorough job of things than chkrootkit.

There is a third party rpm available here:
http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html

It is quite an easy program to use, and I like that 
too. :-)

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Re: [newbie] Rootkit?

2004-04-13 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 07:23, Job Evers wrote:
 My college sent me an email warning:
 
 There have been many recent break-ins to university Solaris and Linux
 systems, including ones for which the administrator puts a lot of effort
 into security.  We have recently seen an increase in successful attacks
 of this nature.
 
 Stanford is one affected university, and they've composed a detailed web
 page,
 http://securecomputing.stanford.edu/alerts/multiple-unix-6apr2004.html
 
 
 
 So, honestly, how worried should one be about this?
 
 Also, in the never ending Linux vs. Windows security argument how do vulnerabilities 
 like this come in?

*NIX security is vastly different than Windows security. It takes quite
a bit more thinking and planning to bust into any type of *NIX box
whereas it takes only the right program to break up a Windows box (or
network); mind you, though, that once a *NIX network (or box) or busted,
it's easy enough for the perp to get wherever they want - with the
exception of localised *NIX boxes where they then have to repeat the
process they began with on the first of the boxes.

IT CAN BE DONE, but requires an awful lot of work, brains and
patience...(which script kiddies don't have - hence they attack Windows
boxes mostly)

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Re: [newbie] rootkit

2002-08-21 Thread Derek Jennings

On Wednesday 21 Aug 2002 4:01 pm, Wilson, Jack wrote:
 Is there a script for checking for rootkits (chkrootkit) for Mandrake
 like there is for RH?


 Thanks Jack

Yes... The search button in Mandrake Software Manager will find it for you.

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RE: [newbie] rootkit

2002-08-21 Thread Wilson, Jack

Thanks. I appreciate it. 

-Original Message-
From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] rootkit


On Wednesday 21 Aug 2002 4:01 pm, Wilson, Jack wrote:
 Is there a script for checking for rootkits (chkrootkit) for Mandrake 
 like there is for RH?


 Thanks Jack

Yes... The search button in Mandrake Software Manager will find it for
you.

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Re: [newbie] rootkit

2002-08-21 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Wednesday August 21 2002 10:01 am, Wilson, Jack wrote:
 Is there a script for checking for rootkits (chkrootkit) for Mandrake
 like there is for RH?


 Thanks Jack

http://www.chkrootkit.org/

   There's also Mandrake rmps,
http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=chkrootkitsubmit=Search+...system=mandrakearch=

   It might be on your CD's
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