Re: [newbie] Web Service or What

2005-02-22 Thread et
On Tuesday 22 February 2005 12:18 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 BJ Tracy wrote:
  Hello All,
 
  Going thru a career change here and it looks like I'm going to need a
  web page.  After I research all the answers you kind folks replied with,
  I'm sure I can layout and design a web page (s).
 
  Here is my question:
  - should I just buy space on someones server like www.register.com for
  $4.95 a month or take one of my many boxes here and build a server and
  rent an address like www.no-ip.com ?
 
  I'm really confused about what would be the easiest and cost LESS.
 
  TIA,
  BJ

 Before you try to set up one yourself, make sure you can with the ISP
 you are using. Some ISPs block or redirect incomming port 80
 connections. It may also be agenst your ISP's rules for you to run a web
 server. Now, if you deside have it hosted, deside how much trafic you
 expect, and shop around. If you are looking at fairly low trafic, such
 as for a personal web site, you can get 5G/month for around $11/year.
 This includes the web site, mail server, name server, mysql server, and
 a plenty of disk space. Most web hosting places also offer regestration
 at fairly low rates.

 Mikkel
so Mikkel, why not tell us where this $11/year - 5gig/month service is?

I personally just go for paying my cable broadband bill, and run the websites 
off it. unless you are going to serve up movies to 20 or so connections at 
one time, Mandrake and PHP/mysql and the rest of the 'LAMP' suite (linux, 
Apache, Mysql, PERL/PHP make it almost as difficult as typing a resume.
but IMHO, the resume is slightly more difficult, unless you have one to 
copy...

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Re: [newbie] Web Service or What

2005-02-22 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
et wrote:
On Tuesday 22 February 2005 12:18 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 

BJ Tracy wrote:
   

Hello All,
Going thru a career change here and it looks like I'm going to need a
web page.  After I research all the answers you kind folks replied with,
I'm sure I can layout and design a web page (s).
Here is my question:
- should I just buy space on someones server like www.register.com for
$4.95 a month or take one of my many boxes here and build a server and
rent an address like www.no-ip.com ?
I'm really confused about what would be the easiest and cost LESS.
TIA,
BJ
 

Before you try to set up one yourself, make sure you can with the ISP
you are using. Some ISPs block or redirect incomming port 80
connections. It may also be agenst your ISP's rules for you to run a web
server. Now, if you deside have it hosted, deside how much trafic you
expect, and shop around. If you are looking at fairly low trafic, such
as for a personal web site, you can get 5G/month for around $11/year.
This includes the web site, mail server, name server, mysql server, and
a plenty of disk space. Most web hosting places also offer regestration
at fairly low rates.
Mikkel
   

so Mikkel, why not tell us where this $11/year - 5gig/month service is?
I personally just go for paying my cable broadband bill, and run the websites 
off it. unless you are going to serve up movies to 20 or so connections at 
one time, Mandrake and PHP/mysql and the rest of the 'LAMP' suite (linux, 
Apache, Mysql, PERL/PHP make it almost as difficult as typing a resume.
but IMHO, the resume is slightly more difficult, unless you have one to 
copy...

 

Well, I guess the price has gone up slightly. It is no $0.95/month, 
payable yearly. ($11.40/year) But take a look at 
http://www.findmyhosting.com/listallplans.asp?host=6723

Disk storage:250 MB
Data Transferee:5 G
Mail Accounts: No limit.
But, you can take a look at:
http://www.findmyhosting.com/searchresults.asp?page=1op=1sid=871538
The cheapest 5 G plan is $0.56/month payable yearly. Works out to 
$6.72/year.

Disk storage:200 MB
Data Transferee:5 G
Mail Accounts: No limit.
I am using the first one. I have had it for 10 months so far, and I am 
happy with it. But my site is just for fun. I give the mail server more 
of a workout then the web server.

Mikkel


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Re: [newbie] Web Service or What

2005-02-22 Thread BJ Tracy
Thanks to all who gave direction.  Mikkel,  I have signed up per your
direction and never knew there were so many to choose from.
BJ


 BJ Tracy wrote:
 
 
 Hello All,
 
 Going thru a career change here and it looks like I'm going to need a
 web page.  After I research all the answers you kind folks replied with,
 I'm sure I can layout and design a web page (s).
 
 Here is my question:
 - should I just buy space on someones server like www.register.com for
 $4.95 a month or take one of my many boxes here and build a server and
 rent an address like www.no-ip.com ?
 
 I'm really confused about what would be the easiest and cost LESS.
 
 TIA,
 BJ
   
 
 Before you try to set up one yourself, make sure you can with the ISP
 you are using. Some ISPs block or redirect incomming port 80
 connections. It may also be agenst your ISP's rules for you to run a web
 server. Now, if you deside have it hosted, deside how much trafic you
 expect, and shop around. If you are looking at fairly low trafic, such
 as for a personal web site, you can get 5G/month for around $11/year.
 This includes the web site, mail server, name server, mysql server, and
 a plenty of disk space. Most web hosting places also offer regestration
 at fairly low rates.
 
 Mikkel
 
 
 so Mikkel, why not tell us where this $11/year - 5gig/month service is?
 
 I personally just go for paying my cable broadband bill, and run the 
 websites 
 off it. unless you are going to serve up movies to 20 or so connections at 
 one time, Mandrake and PHP/mysql and the rest of the 'LAMP' suite (linux, 
 Apache, Mysql, PERL/PHP make it almost as difficult as typing a resume.
 but IMHO, the resume is slightly more difficult, unless you have one to 
 copy...
 
   
 
 Well, I guess the price has gone up slightly. It is no $0.95/month, 
 payable yearly. ($11.40/year) But take a look at 
 http://www.findmyhosting.com/listallplans.asp?host=6723
 
 Disk storage:250 MB
 Data Transferee:5 G
 Mail Accounts: No limit.
 
 But, you can take a look at:
 
 http://www.findmyhosting.com/searchresults.asp?page=1op=1sid=871538
 
 The cheapest 5 G plan is $0.56/month payable yearly. Works out to 
 $6.72/year.
 
 Disk storage:200 MB
 Data Transferee:5 G
 Mail Accounts: No limit.
 
 I am using the first one. I have had it for 10 months so far, and I am 
 happy with it. But my site is just for fun. I give the mail server more 
 of a workout then the web server.
 
 Mikkel
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Web Service or What

2005-02-22 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
BJ Tracy wrote:
Thanks to all who gave direction.  Mikkel,  I have signed up per your
direction and never knew there were so many to choose from.
BJ
 

I know what you mean. I went through it when my ISP decided to get out 
of DSL. The only option for running a server was over $100/month. I am 
on my second web hosting service. The first was a local company, but 
they had reliability issues. I am happy with my second choice. But is 
was fun running my own servers. I still have them running on the home 
network.

Mikkel

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Re: [newbie] Web Service or What

2005-02-21 Thread et
On Monday 21 February 2005 09:23 pm, BJ Tracy wrote:
 Hello All,

 Going thru a career change here and it looks like I'm going to need a
 web page.  After I research all the answers you kind folks replied with,
 I'm sure I can layout and design a web page (s).

 Here is my question:
 - should I just buy space on someones server like www.register.com for
 $4.95 a month or take one of my many boxes here and build a server and
 rent an address like www.no-ip.com ?

 I'm really confused about what would be the easiest and cost LESS.

 TIA,
 BJ
if you want some one to answer that for you, you would first have to decide 
how much to pay yourself...
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Re: [newbie] Web Service or What

2005-02-21 Thread BJ Tracy
On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 21:42, et wrote:
 On Monday 21 February 2005 09:23 pm, BJ Tracy wrote:
  Hello All,
 
  Going thru a career change here and it looks like I'm going to need a
  web page.  After I research all the answers you kind folks replied with,
  I'm sure I can layout and design a web page (s).
 
  Here is my question:
  - should I just buy space on someones server like www.register.com for
  $4.95 a month or take one of my many boxes here and build a server and
  rent an address like www.no-ip.com ?
 
  I'm really confused about what would be the easiest and cost LESS.
 
  TIA,
  BJ
 if you want some one to answer that for you, you would first have to decide 
 how much to pay yourself...
SNIP
Good point...I'm really looking for ease of use and flexibility... cost
$5.00 to $20.00 a month.
bj



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Re: [newbie] Web Service or What

2005-02-21 Thread SigmaX
BJ Tracy wrote:
Hello All,
Going thru a career change here and it looks like I'm going to need a
web page.  After I research all the answers you kind folks replied with,
I'm sure I can layout and design a web page (s).
Here is my question:
- should I just buy space on someones server like www.register.com for
$4.95 a month or take one of my many boxes here and build a server and
rent an address like www.no-ip.com ?
I'm really confused about what would be the easiest and cost LESS.
TIA,
BJ
 

Well if you already have an internet connection that's up to par for a 
server (As in it's high-speed and your ISP allows servers), and you 
already have a box lying around (You'd only need a high-end server for 
extremely trafficed HTTP sites, or maybe things like ASP pages), than I 
would say setting up your own server would be ideal.  Just grabbing an 
old Pentium II or whatever, plopping a default mandrake install on it 
with apache, and plugging your web site into /var/www/html is about all 
it takes :-).  Registering a .com address would probably costyou about 
$15 a year, as opposed to $50 (At a better-than-average deal) a year for 
a basic web hosting package from an ad-free web-service provider (Like 
me).  Alternatively you can get a www.[yourname].cjb.net subdomain from 
cjb or a similar organization for free, though if I remember there's on 
occasional popup for IE users (Which makes up roughly 2/3 of browser 
users and falling).

Anyway, that's my yammer for the evening,
 Cheers,
SigmaX
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Re: [newbie] Web Service or What

2005-02-21 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
BJ Tracy wrote:
Hello All,
Going thru a career change here and it looks like I'm going to need a
web page.  After I research all the answers you kind folks replied with,
I'm sure I can layout and design a web page (s).
Here is my question:
- should I just buy space on someones server like www.register.com for
$4.95 a month or take one of my many boxes here and build a server and
rent an address like www.no-ip.com ?
I'm really confused about what would be the easiest and cost LESS.
TIA,
BJ

Before you try to set up one yourself, make sure you can with the ISP 
you are using. Some ISPs block or redirect incomming port 80 
connections. It may also be agenst your ISP's rules for you to run a web 
server. Now, if you deside have it hosted, deside how much trafic you 
expect, and shop around. If you are looking at fairly low trafic, such 
as for a personal web site, you can get 5G/month for around $11/year. 
This includes the web site, mail server, name server, mysql server, and 
a plenty of disk space. Most web hosting places also offer regestration 
at fairly low rates.

Mikkel
--
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for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!

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Re: [newbie] Web Service or What

2005-02-21 Thread Al

- Original Message -
From: SigmaX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Web Service or What


 BJ Tracy wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 Going thru a career change here and it looks like I'm going to need a
 web page.  After I research all the answers you kind folks replied with,
 I'm sure I can layout and design a web page (s).
 
 Here is my question:
 - should I just buy space on someones server like www.register.com for
 $4.95 a month or take one of my many boxes here and build a server and
 rent an address like www.no-ip.com ?
 
 I'm really confused about what would be the easiest and cost LESS.
 
 TIA,
 BJ
 
 

 Well if you already have an internet connection that's up to par for a
 server (As in it's high-speed and your ISP allows servers), and you
 already have a box lying around (You'd only need a high-end server for
 extremely trafficed HTTP sites, or maybe things like ASP pages), than I
 would say setting up your own server would be ideal.  Just grabbing an
 old Pentium II or whatever, plopping a default mandrake install on it
 with apache, and plugging your web site into /var/www/html is about all
 it takes :-).  Registering a .com address would probably costyou about
 $15 a year, as opposed to $50 (At a better-than-average deal) a year for
 a basic web hosting package from an ad-free web-service provider (Like
 me).  Alternatively you can get a www.[yourname].cjb.net subdomain from
 cjb or a similar organization for free, though if I remember there's on
 occasional popup for IE users (Which makes up roughly 2/3 of browser
 users and falling).

 Anyway, that's my yammer for the evening,
   Cheers,
  SigmaX

 --
 Registered Linux Freak #: 366,862

 If you think of MS-DOS as mono, and Windows as stereo, then Linux is
Dolby Pro-Logic Surround Sound with Bass Boost and all the music is free.

Also, if your using your own server, you could try www.dyndns.org




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