Re: [newbie] What is urpmi?
On Sunday 23 January 2005 23:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: Will someone tell me what urpmi is? From, Mike Chalmers _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 It is Mandrakes Package management system. It can be used on the command line, and is also used by the Mandrake Software Management GUIs. Follow the link to the Wiki in my sig for full details. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What is urpmi?
-Original Message- From: Mike Chalmers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 23, 2005 6:47 PM To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: [newbie] What is urpmi? Will someone tell me what urpmi is? From, Mike Chalmers URPMI is a way to install programs on a Mandrake system without having to find all the extra files you need to make those programs run. You URPMI an entire package instead of one file at a time. That's the quick answer. Someone who knows more will have to take it from here... Julie MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What is urpmi?
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] What is urpmi? Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:10:19 + On Sunday 23 January 2005 23:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: Will someone tell me what urpmi is? From, Mike Chalmers _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 It is Mandrakes Package management system. It can be used on the command line, and is also used by the Mandrake Software Management GUIs. Follow the link to the Wiki in my sig for full details. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com I think I see what you are saying. If I wanted to install a program such as xdesktopwaves it will tell me that I need to have gcc installed and it will install the Mandrake gcc rpm file for me. Is urpmi only for Mandrake? Is what I am thinking correct? From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What is urpmi?
On Monday 24 January 2005 00:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: Will someone tell me what urpmi is? OK, before I fall asleep : All Open Source software is available as *source code*, i.e. written text. As such an application can be downloaded to your hard drive. Then, you face the challenge to compile it. That's not for the faint-at-heart, because inevitably you'll run into the cumbersome *dependency hell*. Which means that your desired application needs other applications in order to compile. - But it is doable. To make things a little easier, RedHat developed a method called *rpm* (RedhatPackageManager). This means pre-compiled, binary collections of files, constituting an application. Of course, there's a trade-off here : in order to install correctly, the system must be configured in pre-defined ways, such as per distribution (Red Hat). But the *rpm* packages do not resolve the *dependency* problem. This means, that when you install a *.rpm* you'll have to install other *.rpms* first. The procedure will tell you which ones. But this is time-consuming. Then, another distribution (Debian) invented a smarter method : the *apt-get* procedure. Here, all dependencies are resolved, and when you type : *apt-get -install application* the dependencies are resolved, downloaded, installed prior to the application itself. Very smart and efficient. These packages have the extension *deb*. Originally, Mandrake was derived from RedHat. The main difference was the Graphical User Interface (GUI). Where RedHat used Gnome, Mandrake used KDE. That doesn't matter, it is a question of personal liking. But Mandrake uses *rpm*. Now, in order to be as user-friendly as Debian, the Mandrake developers invented *urpmi*. I honestly don't know what *u* stands for, but a qualified guess would be *Uniform Redhat Package Manager Installer* - or some such. Anyway, it is really, really smart. The only pre-requisite to using *urpmi* is that you have defined some *sources*. Which means that you'll have to find some servers to supply you. That's easy as well : Go to : http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ And follow instructions EXACTLY. You can choose a multitude of servers for each category (main, contrib, updates,plf), but not all servers get updated regularly, so please experiment. As a rule of thumb : select servers on the other side of the globe, because they tend to be idle when you are awake ;-) This accomplished, installing software is as easy as it gets : 1. The GUI method : Just click the *System--Configuration--Packaging--Install Software* or (and that's the way we prefer here, because you can see what's going on) : 2. Open a terminal (Konsole), type *su*, give root-password and type : *urpmi application*. You'll love it. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What is urpmi?
On Monday 24 January 2005 00:30, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP I think I see what you are saying. If I wanted to install a program such as xdesktopwaves it will tell me that I need to have gcc installed and it will install the Mandrake gcc rpm file for me. Is urpmi only for Mandrake? Is what I am thinking correct? From, Mike Chalmers urpmi is authored by MandrakeSoft, but being GPL any distro could use it. It is a wrapper to rpm which is authored by RedHat. Major distros like Suse and Debian have their own package management systems. You will hear how Debians 'apt-get' is the best package management system around. IMO urpmi is comparable. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What is urpmi?
From: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] What is urpmi? Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:47:10 +0100 On Monday 24 January 2005 00:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: Will someone tell me what urpmi is? OK, before I fall asleep : All Open Source software is available as *source code*, i.e. written text. As such an application can be downloaded to your hard drive. Then, you face the challenge to compile it. That's not for the faint-at-heart, because inevitably you'll run into the cumbersome *dependency hell*. Which means that your desired application needs other applications in order to compile. - But it is doable. To make things a little easier, RedHat developed a method called *rpm* (RedhatPackageManager). This means pre-compiled, binary collections of files, constituting an application. Of course, there's a trade-off here : in order to install correctly, the system must be configured in pre-defined ways, such as per distribution (Red Hat). But the *rpm* packages do not resolve the *dependency* problem. This means, that when you install a *.rpm* you'll have to install other *.rpms* first. The procedure will tell you which ones. But this is time-consuming. Then, another distribution (Debian) invented a smarter method : the *apt-get* procedure. Here, all dependencies are resolved, and when you type : *apt-get -install application* the dependencies are resolved, downloaded, installed prior to the application itself. Very smart and efficient. These packages have the extension *deb*. Originally, Mandrake was derived from RedHat. The main difference was the Graphical User Interface (GUI). Where RedHat used Gnome, Mandrake used KDE. That doesn't matter, it is a question of personal liking. But Mandrake uses *rpm*. Now, in order to be as user-friendly as Debian, the Mandrake developers invented *urpmi*. I honestly don't know what *u* stands for, but a qualified guess would be *Uniform Redhat Package Manager Installer* - or some such. Anyway, it is really, really smart. The only pre-requisite to using *urpmi* is that you have defined some *sources*. Which means that you'll have to find some servers to supply you. That's easy as well : Go to : http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ And follow instructions EXACTLY. You can choose a multitude of servers for each category (main, contrib, updates,plf), but not all servers get updated regularly, so please experiment. As a rule of thumb : select servers on the other side of the globe, because they tend to be idle when you are awake ;-) This accomplished, installing software is as easy as it gets : 1. The GUI method : Just click the *System--Configuration--Packaging--Install Software* or (and that's the way we prefer here, because you can see what's going on) : 2. Open a terminal (Konsole), type *su*, give root-password and type : *urpmi application*. You'll love it. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com I'm still learning. I haven't had much trouble with the rpm. Just rpm --install filename.rpm, and ect. It is alot to know, thanks. From, Mike Chalmers _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What is urpmi?
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] What is urpmi? Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:49:46 + On Monday 24 January 2005 00:30, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP I think I see what you are saying. If I wanted to install a program such as xdesktopwaves it will tell me that I need to have gcc installed and it will install the Mandrake gcc rpm file for me. Is urpmi only for Mandrake? Is what I am thinking correct? From, Mike Chalmers urpmi is authored by MandrakeSoft, but being GPL any distro could use it. It is a wrapper to rpm which is authored by RedHat. Major distros like Suse and Debian have their own package management systems. You will hear how Debians 'apt-get' is the best package management system around. IMO urpmi is comparable. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com That is what I was wondering. Does Mandrake have it's on urpmi site? From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
