Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)

2003-03-26 Thread Raffaele Belardi
Thanks, this is very insteresting. I had assumed that multi-boot 
NT/linux could be done ony from lilo, now I learn that it can be done 
with the NT loader.

Just one question on the dd command below: the first parameter in 
reality is if=/boot, right?

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Raffaele,
you have to perform these steps:
 - dd if0/boot of=linux.bin bs=512 count=1
 - copy linux.bin on the root partition of your
XP/NT/2k system
-  update your boot.ini appending the following line:
c:\Linux.bin=Linux
Note that at that stage (while in the boot loader) NT
boot partition is C regardless on how how windows
names it.
rebboot and you'll have the nt bootloader booting both
O.S.
Hope this helps.
Ciao
Leonardo.


--- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
scritto:  Leonardo,
we installed lilo on the first sector of the /boot
partition, as 
reccomended by the RH help for NT-linux coexistence
on the same disk (in 
case of W95/98-linux coexistance it reccomended to
put lilo in MBR 
instead), but I admit I did not understand why.

What's this difference between W2K and W98m in terms
of bootloader?
raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Raffaele,
did you install lilo on your root / partition or
on

your master partition?


Want to buy your Pack or Services from
MandrakeSoft?

Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com



__
Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino
http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html




Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)

2003-03-26 Thread Leonardo Diciolla
Raffaele,
sorry it was a mistake, the command is dd if=boot
device* bs=512 count=1 of=linux.bin  (*ie. /dev/xxx).
I do have that configuration and it works fine.
Actually you don't ever need lilo (unless you load
initrd or are feeding kernel parameters).If this is
your case just uninstall lilo (lilo -u) and go through
the steps I wrote you.

Ciao.
Leonardo.

 --- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
scritto:  Thanks, this is very insteresting. I had
assumed
 that multi-boot 
 NT/linux could be done ony from lilo, now I learn
 that it can be done 
 with the NT loader.
 
 Just one question on the dd command below: the first
 parameter in 
 reality is if=/boot, right?
 
 raffaele
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Raffaele,
  you have to perform these steps:
   - dd if0/boot of=linux.bin bs=512 count=1
   - copy linux.bin on the root partition of your
  XP/NT/2k system
  -  update your boot.ini appending the following
 line:
  c:\Linux.bin=Linux
  Note that at that stage (while in the boot loader)
 NT
  boot partition is C regardless on how how
 windows
  names it.
  rebboot and you'll have the nt bootloader booting
 both
  O.S.
  
  Hope this helps.
  Ciao
  Leonardo.
  
  
  
  --- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
  scritto:  Leonardo,
  
 we installed lilo on the first sector of the /boot
 partition, as 
 reccomended by the RH help for NT-linux
 coexistence
 on the same disk (in 
 case of W95/98-linux coexistance it reccomended to
 put lilo in MBR 
 instead), but I admit I did not understand why.
 
 What's this difference between W2K and W98m in
 terms
 of bootloader?
 
 raffaele
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Raffaele,
 did you install lilo on your root / partition
 or
 
 on
 
 your master partition?
 
 
 Want to buy your Pack or Services from
  
  MandrakeSoft?
  
 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
  
  
  
 

__
  Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message
 per il tuo telefonino
 

http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html
  
  
  
 


  
  Want to buy your Pack or Services from
 MandrakeSoft? 
  Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
 
 
  Want to buy your Pack or Services from
MandrakeSoft?
 
 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
  

__
Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino
http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)

2003-03-24 Thread Leonardo Diciolla
Raffaele,
did you install lilo on your root / partition or on
your master partition?
Do you want to dual boot your machine or only mount
your ntfs partition? If you want to mount it you have
to compile the ntfs module at least and then go with
modprobe or insmod. That doesn't depend upon Lilo.

Leonardo.


 --- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
scritto:  I'm helping a friend install RedHat7.3. I
realize
 now how good the MDK 
 distributions are!
 
 We are trying to have a dual boot with W2K. The
 problem is that after RH 
 installation, LILO does not show the W2K option. No
 problem, we think, 
 let's boot in linux and insert in lilo.conf the
 additional entry, but it 
 doesn't work: lilo refuses to upgrade the MBR
 because it does not see 
 the partition hda5 (were W2K is).
 Looking better, we see that hda5 is not mounted at
 all. So we mkdir 
 /mnt/windows and add a new entry in fstab with
 appropriate parameters. 
 But now mount /mnt/windows reveals that ntfs is not
 build into the 
 kernel. We try an insmod ntfs, but the module cannot
 be located: it's 
 not present in the /lib/modules/.../ directory. :-(
 
 My understanding is that lilo refuses to upgrade the
 bootloader because 
 it first tries to validate the lilo.conf accessing
 the partitions there 
 indicated, but in our case fails because there is no
 ntfs support in the 
 kernel and exits.
 
 It there a way around this mess?
 
 raffaele
 
 
 
  Want to buy your Pack or Services from
MandrakeSoft?
 
 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
  

__
Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino
http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)

2003-03-24 Thread Raffaele Belardi
That's what I thought, and I did exactly as you write. But, running lilo 
to update the bootloader, we got the error message partition not found 
or something alike, and the bootloader was not changed.

Thanks for the link, I was quite surprised seeing that ntfs is not 
included in RH. I guess MDK sets expectations too high.

Anyway, the problem is partly solved: reinstalling RH, we noticed that 
there was an error in the way we configured the bootloader, and that's 
why the windows entry did not show up in the lilo menu.

thanks again,

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Irregardless of whether the kernel has NTFS built into it, you should
still be able to get lilo to recognise the partition and boot to it.
Your lilo should have an entry like:
other=/dev/hda5
label=windows
table=/dev/hda
You HAVE to rerun lilo after modifying the /etc/lilo.conf - but this
should work.
If you want to mount the partition, you can find the NTFS modules at:
http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/
They require no recompiling of the kernel - just run the RPM package
suitable for your kernel and you're all set. Just remember that writing
to NTFS partitions is NOT a good idea under anything than Windows...
HTH!



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)

2003-03-24 Thread Raffaele Belardi
Leonardo,

we installed lilo on the first sector of the /boot partition, as 
reccomended by the RH help for NT-linux coexistence on the same disk (in 
case of W95/98-linux coexistance it reccomended to put lilo in MBR 
instead), but I admit I did not understand why.

What's this difference between W2K and W98m in terms of bootloader?

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Raffaele,
did you install lilo on your root / partition or on
your master partition?


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com