Re: [newbie] seti@home install/setup

2004-08-06 Thread Charlie Mahan
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On Thursday 05 August 2004 23:50:11, Len Lawrence wrote:
whack
 Know what you mean.  My laptop overheats as well.  Watching DVDs is a pain
 on my Sony VAIO because it freezes after an hour or so into the film.  I
 rarely run mine anyway for longer than two hours.

 The [EMAIL PROTECTED] link is http://folding.stanford.edu

Thanks for reminding me! I totally forgot to turn the protein folding back on 
when I switched to the new machine. Woops. Two weeks lost. Thank {Deity} the 
old system is still chugging away.

Charlie
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Re: [newbie] seti@home install/setup

2004-08-06 Thread C. Tresenriter
On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 01:16:11 -0600
Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Thanks for reminding me! I totally forgot to turn the protein
 folding back on when I switched to the new machine. Woops. Two
 weeks lost. Thank {Deity} the old system is still chugging away.
 
 Charlie
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I just realized the same thing after a rare reboot.
What would I need to do to make the prog start automatically on
reboot? 
Would a cron job do it?


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Re: [newbie] seti@home install/setup

2004-08-06 Thread Charlie Mahan
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On Friday 06 August 2004 04:42:04, C. Tresenriter wrote:
 On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 01:16:11 -0600

 Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks for reminding me! I totally forgot to turn the protein
  folding back on when I switched to the new machine. Woops. Two
  weeks lost. Thank {Deity} the old system is still chugging away.
 
  Charlie
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 I just realized the same thing after a rare reboot.
 What would I need to do to make the prog start automatically on
 reboot?
 Would a cron job do it?

I suppose you could cron the start up, but why go to that trouble? If you're 
using either of the main window managers couldn't you just save the session 
and watch it resume after you log back in? I'm fairly positive kcron would do 
it, but the folding app runs in user space so why get root involved at all? 
g

I never shut K-Mail (Kontact now) or Mozilla-Thunderbird (different focus and 
e-mail server/accounts) or gkrellm and a few others down. They have their 
space and resume in that space when I log out and in or after a reboot and 
login. Since I choose to run cooker for testing and since new kernels, 
changing init-scripts etc are the norm in testing that's the easiest way for 
me.

I stopped using a console (Ctrl+Alt+F1-6) for folding a while back, I just run 
it in konsole on desktop 6 and leave it there with any other command line 
apps that have to run unattended for long periods.

Regards;
Charlie
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Re: [newbie] seti@home install/setup

2004-08-06 Thread C. Tresenriter
On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 08:08:42 -0600
Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 On Friday 06 August 2004 04:42:04, C. Tresenriter wrote:
  On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 01:16:11 -0600
 
  Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Thanks for reminding me! I totally forgot to turn the protein
   folding back on when I switched to the new machine. Woops. Two
   weeks lost. Thank {Deity} the old system is still chugging
   away.
  
   Charlie
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  I just realized the same thing after a rare reboot.
  What would I need to do to make the prog start automatically on
  reboot?
  Would a cron job do it?
 
 I suppose you could cron the start up, but why go to that trouble?
 If you're using either of the main window managers couldn't you
 just save the session and watch it resume after you log back in?
 I'm fairly positive kcron would do it, but the folding app runs in
 user space so why get root involved at all? g

Hmmm... I never would have thought of that simple solution!

Thanks Charlie - and Paul for your responses
Curt



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[Fwd: Laptop CPU Temps (WAS: Re: [newbie] seti@home install/setup)]

2004-08-06 Thread Chuck MATTSEN
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sympa bounced this once (see below); hopefully, this time it'll make it.  :-\
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Subject: Laptop CPU Temps (WAS: Re: [newbie] [EMAIL PROTECTED] install/setup)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 14:00:15 -0500
From: Chuck MATTSEN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Len Lawrence wrote:
| Chuck MATTSEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
|Back in my heavy Windows-using days (which wasn't very long ago at
|all), I briefly ran some protein analysis program (United Devices,
|or something similar).  I may look into it again soon.  (If you're
|referring to a different outfit, yes, please repost the link.)  My
|only concern right now is that, though I've got CPU cycles to spare,
|I'm a little paranoid about the high CPU drain with respect to the
|heat it seems to produce on this relatively new laptop. :)
|
| Know what you mean.  My laptop overheats as well.  Watching DVDs is a pain
| on my Sony VAIO because it freezes after an hour or so into the film.  I
| rarely run mine anyway for longer than two hours.
Hmmm.  I've not had any problems with the laptop freezing (yet), nor any
instability, over these past 5-6 months of operation.  It wasn't until I
started running both [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the gkrellm CPU temp monitor yesterday.
~ I grew concerned because I saw the temp jump from its baseline (with my
usual mail, browser, etc., running) of the 50 C. range up to the mid- to
high-70s C. range with the CPU maxed and running [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm not certain what the unstable/dangerous range would be for it (an
Athlon XP-M 2600+ on this Compaq Presario 2175US notebook), but I
apparently haven't reached it (I suspect it's mid-80s and higher, but that
guesstimate is just that from my /very/ limited search for info).  In any
case, I became concerned about temps yesterday but apparently needn't be,
in that I've also just noticed that I get the same temp spikes with
xscreensaver running, and I've been doing that for 8+ hours per day for
most of those 5 months or so.
Still, longevity/stability is a concern, so it deserves more research.
| The [EMAIL PROTECTED] link is http://folding.stanford.edu
Danke.

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Solved (WAS: Re: [newbie] seti@home install/setup)

2004-08-05 Thread Chuck MATTSEN
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| Okay, I'm feeling even denser than usual today.  Could someone point
| me to a good, comprehensive site for all things SETI under Linux?  I
| know it's a CLI version, and there are various monitoring programs
| for it (including gkrellm, which is what I'd like to use), but I
| really need a site that gives me a step-by-step from start to
| finish, if there is one.  So far, I've not found anything that dumbs
| it down to the degree that I apparently need today.
|
| TIA
Thanks to Paul who gave me the clue I was lacking (among others) to
run interactively with a ./ -- no problems getting going now.  :-)
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Re: [newbie] seti@home install/setup

2004-08-05 Thread et
On Thursday 05 August 2004 01:52 pm, Chuck MATTSEN wrote:
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 Okay, I'm feeling even denser than usual today.  Could someone point
 me to a good, comprehensive site for all things SETI under Linux?  I
 know it's a CLI version, and there are various monitoring programs
 for it (including gkrellm, which is what I'd like to use), but I
 really need a site that gives me a step-by-step from start to
 finish, if there is one.  So far, I've not found anything that dumbs
 it down to the degree that I apparently need today.

 TIA
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tell us where you are right now,,, I got [EMAIL PROTECTED] running for years now,,, 
adn if I can do it many times over, I am sure we could walk thru it... have 
you downloaded the file  setiathome-3.08.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar? have you made 
a folder for it? have you moved the file to that folder? have you untared the 
file ? I think this one, not being a tar gz, but just a tar gets; 
setiathome-3.08.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar. -xvf, let me know if that doesn't 
work, or if i am talking over your head...(but if it doesn't work save the 
error output)
 now if you get that far, with no errors, you should be able to 
type ./setiathome, from the prompt, in the folder that has been created. 
setiathome-3.03.i386-pc-linux-gnulibc1-static

 
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Re: [newbie] seti@home install/setup

2004-08-05 Thread Len Lawrence
On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 12:52:14 -0500
Chuck MATTSEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Okay, I'm feeling even denser than usual today.  Could someone point
 me to a good, comprehensive site for all things SETI under Linux?  I
 know it's a CLI version, and there are various monitoring programs
 for it (including gkrellm, which is what I'd like to use), but I
 really need a site that gives me a step-by-step from start to
 finish, if there is one.  So far, I've not found anything that dumbs
 it down to the degree that I apparently need today.
 
Don't know about ALL things SETI but there is a good graphical interface
called TkSETI - http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~macdonal/tkseti/tkseti.html.  This
allows pausing, stopping and starting the setiathome client and displays 
a history of your largest spikes, gaussians, triplets etc. and also gives
you an equatorial sky map showing all the regions you have processed and 
the location of spikes etc. what have you.  Setiathome supplies xsetiathome,
which may be similar.  Presumably you have a link for that.  AFAIK you need
a setiathome directory under /home/user for the current workfiles and the 
binary installed somewhere in your PATH.  Hope this isn't too patronizing. 

While you are looking to use spare cpu cycles you might consider the protein
folding project at Stanford University, which has the probable advantage of
being more useful in the long run.  I think it was Joe Hill who originally
recommended that.  Will repost the link if you are interested.

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Re: [newbie] seti@home install/setup

2004-08-05 Thread et
On Thursday 05 August 2004 06:29 pm, et wrote:
 On Thursday 05 August 2004 01:52 pm, Chuck MATTSEN wrote:
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  Okay, I'm feeling even denser than usual today.  Could someone point
  me to a good, comprehensive site for all things SETI under Linux?  I
  know it's a CLI version, and there are various monitoring programs
  for it (including gkrellm, which is what I'd like to use), but I
  really need a site that gives me a step-by-step from start to
  finish, if there is one.  So far, I've not found anything that dumbs
  it down to the degree that I apparently need today.
 
  TIA
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 tell us where you are right now,,, I got [EMAIL PROTECTED] running for years now,,,
 adn if I can do it many times over, I am sure we could walk thru it... have
 you downloaded the file  setiathome-3.08.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar? have you
 made a folder for it? have you moved the file to that folder? have you
 untared the file ? I think this one, not being a tar gz, but just a tar
 gets;
 setiathome-3.08.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar. -xvf, 
d

tar -xvf setiathome-3.08.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar

wake up ET!!! 
 let me know if that doesn't 
 work, or if i am talking over your head...(but if it doesn't work save the
 error output)
  now if you get that far, with no errors, you should be able to
 type ./setiathome, from the prompt, in the folder that has been created.
 setiathome-3.03.i386-pc-linux-gnulibc1-static

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Re: [newbie] seti@home install/setup

2004-08-05 Thread Len Lawrence
On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 17:37:00 -0500
Chuck MATTSEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- snip snip snip 
 As it happens, TkSETI is what I ended up going with, and it's quite
 easy to use, I've found, now that I've got the program itself going.
 :*)  (There are days when I /need/ patronizing, believe me, and this
 was obviously one of them.)  I may take a look at the others that
 showed up in urpmi (ksetispy and ksetiwatch, if I remember
 correctly), just to see how they compare.  But, yeah, TkSETI is nice.
 
 Back in my heavy Windows-using days (which wasn't very long ago at
 all), I briefly ran some protein analysis program (United Devices,
 or something similar).  I may look into it again soon.  (If you're
 referring to a different outfit, yes, please repost the link.)  My
 only concern right now is that, though I've got CPU cycles to spare,
 I'm a little paranoid about the high CPU drain with respect to the
 heat it seems to produce on this relatively new laptop. :)

Know what you mean.  My laptop overheats as well.  Watching DVDs is a pain
on my Sony VAIO because it freezes after an hour or so into the film.  I 
rarely run mine anyway for longer than two hours.

The [EMAIL PROTECTED] link is http://folding.stanford.edu
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