Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?
I could be wrong, but I think the restore function reads lilo.conf, restoring all entries that previously existed--including Winblows entries. Can anybody confirm this? That's correct. Is that the cli command, or is it an option on the cd? thanks, eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:55:14 -0800, Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could be wrong, but I think the restore function reads lilo.conf, restoring all entries that previously existed--including Winblows entries. Can anybody confirm this? That's correct. Is that the cli command, or is it an option on the cd? Option on the CD. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?
I could be wrong, but I think the restore function reads lilo.conf, restoring all entries that previously existed--including Winblows entries. Can anybody confirm this? That's correct. Is that the cli command, or is it an option on the cd? Option on the CD. Thanks. I'll definitely add this to my notes... eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:20:23 -0500, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With XOSL that i use, installing Windows at any time would not cause any problem! It is true that windows writes to MBR and wipes out whatever is there. However XOSL has a restore option! So after installing a windows OS, I insert the XOSL floppy and restore it! Then i am on XOSL as before! Cool! I wonder if Mandrake could include a similar restore facility. It does. You can run the Mandrake CD in rescue mode and it will rewrite Lilo to the MBR if it has been overwritten. You can then manually add boot options for Windows 98, XP, etc. I could be wrong, but I think the restore function reads lilo.conf, restoring all entries that previously existed--including Winblows entries. Can anybody confirm this? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?
Miark wrote: On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:20:23 -0500, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With XOSL that i use, installing Windows at any time would not cause any problem! It is true that windows writes to MBR and wipes out whatever is there. However XOSL has a restore option! So after installing a windows OS, I insert the XOSL floppy and restore it! Then i am on XOSL as before! Cool! I wonder if Mandrake could include a similar restore facility. It does. You can run the Mandrake CD in rescue mode and it will rewrite Lilo to the MBR if it has been overwritten. You can then manually add boot options for Windows 98, XP, etc. I could be wrong, but I think the restore function reads lilo.conf, restoring all entries that previously existed--including Winblows entries. Can anybody confirm this? Miark windows entries are restored too if i remember correctly Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 12:54 am, Ramin wrote: You are right. I forgot to explain this case. Actually my case was even more complicated since i wanted to reinstall Windows XP too. Once during the installation i used Mandrake partition utility to define partitions and format them but quit the installation before installing the packages (well it was a waste of time since i had to do it again later any way). Then i installed Windows XP and later Mandrake. This time i did not have to partition the disks but i had to format the first primary partition from Linux to FAT to install DrDOs there. This was because it is impossible to fool Windows XP by hiding FAT partitions: it always sees them and want to pick the first one as drive C:/. However, Windows XP does not need to boot from C:. It will happily default to booting from D: if you specify that drive as the installation target. Windows 98, OTOH, is not so versatile. You will need to have Windows 98 installed in the primary partition on the first hard drive in order to boot with it. I would suggest creating a FAT partition on the first hard drive and formatting and installing Windows 98. Next, install Windows XP on a new D: partition, it will overwrite the MBR but add a boot line to the boot menu for both Windows 98 and Windows XP. Finally, reinstall Mandrake and it should add Lilo which will happily add all Linux boot options as well as Windows XP and 98 to its boot menu. With XOSL that i use, installing Windows at any time would not cause any problem! It is true that windows writes to MBR and wipes out whatever is there. However XOSL has a restore option! So after installing a windows OS, I insert the XOSL floppy and restore it! Then i am on XOSL as before! Cool! I wonder if Mandrake could include a similar restore facility. It does. You can run the Mandrake CD in rescue mode and it will rewrite Lilo to the MBR if it has been overwritten. You can then manually add boot options for Windows 98, XP, etc. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?
Hiding from Windows98 should be fairly easy as it is rather an old windows. And i noticed during mandrake installation that it does have hidden FAT among the options for the file system. I have though not tried to see if how it performs. I am using XOSL as my boot loader which come with Ranish partition manager and i can install windows2k on the third partition while the first two partitions are FAT or NTFS! I however do not use hidden fat (it may work though, but i don´t remember what was the problem). I record the first two partitions as linux type using RPM even though they are windows type! This way is guaranteed to work for me. Windows98 is older and i think hiding FAT partitions is very likely to work. So if it was me, the first way i would try is using Mandrake partition manager to hide the first two windows partitions and write the setting to the MBR. Then i would start installing Windows98. I should repeat that i have not tried this myself before, but the Mandrake 9.2 partition manager seems very reliable (it was not the case for Mandrake 9.0 to my opinion). Regards, Ramin On January 12, 2004 09:45 pm, Joe wrote: A friend has a laptop, which has XP in the first partition. When I installed mandrake, I created a small fat32 partition between XP and mandrake, with the intent of putting 98 in there for some legacy app he wants to use (something for working with an old version of windows CE that doesn't run under XP, havn't tried it under wine...yet). Did a quick search on google and found this page: http://www.vamos.de/english/bootman2.html#dos It is an OS2 tool that can hide a primary partition from windows so that it sees the second partition as c: Is there a way to do this with lilo or grub? Is there an easier way? TIA for suggestions. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 23:34:48 -0500 Ramin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiding from Windows98 should be fairly easy as it is rather an old windows. And i noticed during mandrake installation that it does have hidden FAT among the options for the file system. I have though not tried to see if how it performs. I am using XOSL as my boot loader which come with Ranish partition manager and i can install windows2k on the third partition while the first two partitions are FAT or NTFS! I however do not use hidden fat (it may work though, but i don´t remember what was the problem). I record the first two partitions as linux type using RPM even though they are windows type! This way is guaranteed to work for me. Windows98 is older and i think hiding FAT partitions is very likely to work. So if it was me, the first way i would try is using Mandrake partition manager to hide the first two windows partitions and write the setting to the MBR. Then i would start installing Windows98. I should repeat that i have not tried this myself before, but the Mandrake 9.2 partition manager seems very reliable (it was not the case for Mandrake 9.0 to my opinion). Regards, Ramin On January 12, 2004 09:45 pm, Joe wrote: A friend has a laptop, which has XP in the first partition. When I installed mandrake, I created a small fat32 partition between XP and mandrake, with the intent of putting 98 in there for some legacy app he wants to use (something for working with an old version of windows CE that doesn't run under XP, havn't tried it under wine...yet). Did a quick search on google and found this page: http://www.vamos.de/english/bootman2.html#dos It is an OS2 tool that can hide a primary partition from windows so that it sees the second partition as c: Is there a way to do this with lilo or grub? Is there an easier way? TIA for suggestions. Joe. I used to do it ... first start blank then install 98 then install winxp pro or win 2000 then linux.. linux and windows will show up on the lilo boot when you boot windows it will take you to the nt loader and you can boot 98 from there. I think its not possible to boot 98 in the middle how you explained it. windows likes to install to the mbr ;) -- jason pearl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ Keep your friends close and your enemies closer-Tupac ++ Kurrupted Visionz Phx, AZregistered linux user #307811 MDK 9.2 LinuxMachine# 193475, 227341 AMD64 Opteron 1.6http://counter.li.org ASUS SK8N uptime: 21:51:48 up 1 day, 3:13, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
