Re[9]: [newbie] Backdoor for crashes?
Hello Tom, Sunday, June 15, 2003, 7:39:29 AM, you wrote: TB As you can see 'x' is a heck of a lot more than 'X'. Yes, indeed. :-) I see. TB First, you generally only want to use 'kill' on specific TB applications that can't be stopped more normally, not systems like TB X. Aha - sound like good advice. TB Second, 'kill -9' is a last resort, and should be used sparingly TB and carefully, and never as root on your user owned apps. Another aha. :-) I did this as root, and perhaps that is why it killed the machine. I tried running ps aux | grep appname, but it gives me an error. TB Was this after your 'kill -9 x'? No, this is any time. Even when I try to make an alias, it says 'command aux not found'. Is this another alias? Does linux treat alises as (some alias) appname? TB Not sure what you mean, It seems that 'appname' is passing a 'variable' to the alias. The form (some alias) appname would imply that it passes the variable to the entire alias command, but if you typed the entire thing from a prompt, it might need to have appname at some other point in the input. (I hope this makes more sense.) TB Probly be a good idea to read the various Bash how-to's. Yeah - I'm going to have to learn more about the commands (all 2200+ of them). :-) -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[9]: [newbie] Backdoor for crashes?
Hello stormjumper, Thursday, June 12, 2003, 9:57:57 PM, you wrote: That seemed to bring down everything - ssh remote quit responding, could not log back in, no keys worked anywhere. s i'm sorry to hear that. i've just tried, and killing the pid of s startx brought down everything running on X. I tried a few things WITHOUT the crash, and they seemed to work, but not when I had the 'stellarium' crash. It might be that there was something else going on when stellarium crashed/froze x. stellarium crashed often enough that it was easy to check out. :-) -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[9]: [newbie] Backdoor for crashes?
if that's the case, i guess stellarium crashes harder than linux is able to handle, altho that statement is prolly inaccurate, given that linux is well documented to be very insulated against application crashes... in this case, since you can still ssh in, would it be better, once this happens, to issue a reboot command. hopefully at least the system would bring itself down gracefully, better than a hard reset would. - Original Message - From: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: stormjumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 03:32 Subject: Re[9]: [newbie] Backdoor for crashes? Hello stormjumper, Thursday, June 12, 2003, 9:57:57 PM, you wrote: That seemed to bring down everything - ssh remote quit responding, could not log back in, no keys worked anywhere. s i'm sorry to hear that. i've just tried, and killing the pid of s startx brought down everything running on X. I tried a few things WITHOUT the crash, and they seemed to work, but not when I had the 'stellarium' crash. It might be that there was something else going on when stellarium crashed/froze x. stellarium crashed often enough that it was easy to check out. :-) -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
