Re: [[newbie] Fw: LILO Boot Magic install ?] new explanation

2000-06-23 Per discussione Peter Yellman

Right, that's my impression as well.  EZ-BIOS is actually referred to as
a "BIOS overlay", it loads after the BIOS.  I have dealt with EZ-BIOS
and other pre-installed HD software (as on HP-distributed SCSI drives,
Compaqs, etc.) in various ways, including:

For EZ-BIOS, I've used unistall on the EZ-BIOS setup disk.

For any IDE disk, I often use clear.hdd (acquired from Western Digital's
site), which blows away any and all cylinder boundary markers in a few
seconds.  I've never used it on any of the new huge IDE drives (18GB+),
so do so with caution.  This is my preferred method, as it's quick and
final.

Finally, you should be able to use fdisk and format (DOS or Linux) to
kill any offending partitions/MBR code.  Just don't try to deal with
this issue by reinstalling your BIOS!

-- Peter Yellman
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Peter Ogden wrote:
 
 Where did you get the idea that Hard Disk Drivers flash the BIOS? Every
 different model of motherboard has a different BIOS, there is no way they
 could provide BIOS changes for every motherboard. Yes, these drivers can
 cause problems and they can be difficult to remove (though some do now have
 uninstallation procedures), but they are simply a driver that starts from
 the MBR and intercepts all disk access code.
 
  - Peter Ogden
Perth, West Australia
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: Charles A Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2000 9:03 pm
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [[newbie] Fw: LILO  Boot Magic install ?] new
  explanation
 
 
 The  most likely causes of this error actually has nothing
  to do with the
  MBR, where it is at, or the size of any partitions. If your
  hd was ever
  formatted using a manufacturer floppy ( with IBM it is
  EZDrive, Maxtor is
  MaxBlast and I am sure others also have their own). The
  program not only
  formatted your drive but it also flashed your BIOS to fool the hd size
  limitation and UDMA 66 incompatibility that older BIOSs had.
  If this is the
  case then neither LILO nor BootMagic can or will work as a
  bootloader on
  your system.
  SystemCommander will work and in Mandrake 7.1 GRUB will
  work.If neither
  of these 2 is an option then the only be able to boot Linux is from a
  floppy.
 
 Charles
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Michael Scottaline" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [[newbie] Fw: LILO  Boot Magic install ?]
 
 
   "aifusionextreme" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   big snip
The only Clue is the size:
   
Boot magic actually gives an error message which says
  that the primary
   partition must be in the first 1023 cylnders. Why is cares
  about the rest
  of
   the HD and not just the mbr I cant farthom. But there you
  have it. Since
  boot
   magic wont install and lilo does but fails I assume they
  both cant handle
   larger drives. When I installed before I had nice neat
  partitions around
  the
   2-4 GB mark. I assume this didnt exceed the 1023 cylders
  option, assuming
  that
   this is the cause. Currently I have a 14GB and a 40GB. Both
  exitbite the
  same
   behavoiur.
   
if any body with the no-how can help in confirming this theory or
  indictae
   what limitations the software might have the Please Help.
  It is not just
  me as
   you acan see from the posting.
   
If there is a cyclionder limitation can you explain why a
  boot manager
  needs
   to know about anythning but the mbr ?
   
More importantly how can go about fixing this bug  ?
   
   =
   The size of the drive is NOT that critical, provided the
  boot sector is
  BELOW
   the 1024 limit (usually about 8 gig).  Thus create a small
  (10-12 meg)
  boot
   partition below that limit (entirely) and linux should boot
  just fine.
   Caldera has included a new booter in their eDesktop 2.4
  distribution that
   evidently doesn't have this limitation.  My guess is that
  most distro will
  be
   following suit with something similar in upcoming editions
  of their own
   distros.
   Mike
  
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   than alcohol has taken out of me."
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[newbie] Mandrake 7.0 http install problem -- can't locate second stage ramdisk

2000-06-21 Per discussione Peter Yellman

I hope I'm not repeating myself, some help would be much appreciated.

I thought I had put this behind me with a couple of network/http
installs of redhat, turbolinux, etc., but am having problems w/doing so
on Mandrake 7.0. I'm trying to install from a local network http
server.  I have created a virtual directory named mandrake so that the
following directory structure is displayed when you visit
http://192.168.0.3/mandrake/

-- base
-- instimage
-- mdkinst
-- RPMS

However, when I attempt the install, I get the mesage: Unable to
retrieve the second stage ramdisk: File not found on server.

In the Web site name field, I have entered 192.168.0.3, and tried
including the http://, trailing slashes, etc., just for fun.  I have
also tried every variant to specify the directory that I can think of,
such as:
/mandrake
/mandrake/
/mandrake/base
/mandrake/base/
and others.

I've tried installing with both the graphical (DrakX) and text-based
network install images, with no success.

I installed RH 6.1 over the network, from the same webserver, on to this
very same machine just a few months ago, and it's been running on the
network fine since, so I'm pretty sure it's not the NIC.

I sure hope someone out there has a quick answer to this silly problem.

Oh yeah -- no CD-ROM on this machine.

Thanks,
Peter Yellman
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