Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

[Michael O'Brien]

Interesting Mike. Yes, I've also heard Swainson's and Veery give quite a 
variety of strongly modulated calls, including a few that seemed to fall under 
the context of contact call/flight call. Can't remember hearing that from 
Hermit, but it wouldn't surprise me if all Catharus occasionally give analogous 
calls. I'll have to listen for that! 


thanks, 
Michael 


Michael O'Brien 
Victor Emanuel Nature Tours 
www.ventbird.com 
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Lanzone"  
To: "Michael O'Brien"  
Cc: "Jeff Wells" , "Nocturnal Flight Call ListServe" 
 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:35:27 PM 
Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground 


I have heard Hermit Thrush give a call like that, interestingly I have also 
heard Gray-cheeked, Swainsons, and Veery give an alternate "flight" call note. 
These notes sounds a bit harsher and blurry or jumbled in quality, if that 
makes sense. At least Swainson's and Gray-cheeked have more than one call 
variation like this. I first heard these calls while I had them in the hand 
while I was recording flight calls in captivity at Powdermill (Auk 126-3: 
511-519). I could never get them to make the calls while in the cone for a 
recording, always while I had them in the hand transferring them to the cone. 
Swainson's calls almost sounds like a "grrring" sound added to the calls and a 
bit shorter. Ethan, what you posted sounds very much like what I have heard 
form Veerys. Bill Cohran has recorded the other call I have heard from 
Swainson's I think, he told me he had one when I described the call to him. I 
have since heard all these calls at night, without having hearing them 
beforehand I would not have know what they were, although I have since heard 
calls similar to a few of these on the breeding grounds, so I bet they would be 
in the Macaulay Library if someone had the time to look there! 

Michael Lanzone 
mlanz...@gmail.com 




On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Michael O'Brien < tsw...@comcast.net > wrote: 





Alll, 


This has been a fun thread spun off Jeff's original post. But I have to say, 
what really caught my attention from listening to his video clip was that 
second call note which has a distinctly burry quality. To my ear, it sounds 
very similar to a Rose-breasted Grosbeak. I don't recall ever hearing a Hermit 
Thrush give a call like that. Has anyone else? 


thanks, 
Michael 


Michael O'Brien 
Victor Emanuel Nature Tours 
www.ventbird.com 

From: "Jeff Wells" < jwe...@intlboreal.org > 
To: "Nocturnal Flight Call ListServe" < nfc-l@cornell.edu > 
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:09:41 PM 
Subject: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground 







Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching 
a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the 
“chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon it began 
alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” nocturnal flight 
call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed 
away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At 
that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the “chuck” call 
and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and 
continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown 
away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but 
I never saw or heard it again. 



I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted 
up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings 
of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the 
breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing 
that. 



Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving 
nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation 



Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what 
I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am 
used to hearing at night. 



Jeff Wells 

Gardiner, Maine 
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Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

[Michael Lanzone]

I have heard Hermit Thrush give a call like that, interestingly I have also
heard Gray-cheeked, Swainsons, and Veery give an alternate "flight" call
note. These notes sounds a bit harsher and blurry or jumbled in quality, if
that makes sense. At least Swainson's and Gray-cheeked have more than one
call variation like this. I first heard these calls while I had them in the
hand while I was recording flight calls in captivity at Powdermill (Auk
126-3: 511-519). I could never get them to make the calls while in the cone
for a recording, always while I had them in the hand transferring them to
the cone. Swainson's calls almost sounds like a "grrring" sound added to the
calls and a bit shorter. Ethan, what you posted sounds very much like what I
have heard form Veerys. Bill Cohran has recorded the other call I have heard
from Swainson's I think, he told me he had one when I described the call to
him. I have since heard all these calls at night, without having hearing
them beforehand I would not have know what they were, although I have since
heard calls similar to a few of these on the breeding grounds, so I bet they
would be in the Macaulay Library if someone had the time to look there!

Michael Lanzone
mlanz...@gmail.com



On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Michael O'Brien  wrote:

>  Alll,
>
> This has been a fun thread spun off Jeff's original post. But I have to
> say, what really caught my attention from listening to his video clip was
> that second call note which has a distinctly burry quality. To my ear, it
> sounds very similar to a Rose-breasted Grosbeak. I don't recall ever hearing
> a Hermit Thrush give a call like that. Has anyone else?
>
> thanks,
> Michael
>
> Michael O'Brien
> Victor Emanuel Nature Tours
> www.ventbird.com
>  --
> *From: *"Jeff Wells" 
> *To: *"Nocturnal Flight Call ListServe" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:09:41 PM
> *Subject: *[nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground
>
>
>  Yesterday morning  I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine
> watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began
> hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard.
> Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee”
> nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my
> recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the
> street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight
> call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller
> tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit
> before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped
> calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again.
>
>
>
> I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I
> posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some
> recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs
> during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s
> Thrush doing that.
>
>
>
> Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving
> nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation
>
>
>
> Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than
> what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what
> I am used to hearing at night.
>
>
>
> Jeff Wells
>
> Gardiner, Maine
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Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

[Michael O'Brien]

Alll, 


This has been a fun thread spun off Jeff's original post. But I have to say, 
what really caught my attention from listening to his video clip was that 
second call note which has a distinctly burry quality. To my ear, it sounds 
very similar to a Rose-breasted Grosbeak. I don't recall ever hearing a Hermit 
Thrush give a call like that. Has anyone else? 


thanks, 
Michael 


Michael O'Brien 
Victor Emanuel Nature Tours 
www.ventbird.com 
- Original Message -
From: "Jeff Wells"  
To: "Nocturnal Flight Call ListServe"  
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:09:41 PM 
Subject: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground 




Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching 
a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the 
“chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon it began 
alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” nocturnal flight 
call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed 
away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At 
that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the “chuck” call 
and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and 
continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown 
away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but 
I never saw or heard it again. 



I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted 
up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings 
of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the 
breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing 
that. 



Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving 
nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation 



Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what 
I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am 
used to hearing at night. 



Jeff Wells 

Gardiner, Maine 
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Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

[Jay Withgott]

I agree!  That thing was a pedagogical masterpiece.  I got a bootleg 
copy during the World Series of Birding many years ago (likely a 
bootleg of a bootleg of a bootleg, actually... I suspect a lot of us 
owe you royalties, Bill) and it was the perfect teaching tool.  And 
even the warts on Side B were charming (e.g., the loud airplane 
behind the American Bittern and the party music in the background of 
the, what was it, Green Heron, I think?).  Would be wonderful to 
re-release the original as a CD along with an update of "what we know 
today"

Jay Withgott, Portland, OR, where the Hermits and esp. the Swainson's 
do flight calls on the ground



At 6:44 PM + 10/12/11, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg wrote:
>Man, we're old!
>
>Although the CDRom is the way to go for learning and studying, it 
>was Bill's careful narrative and logic that helped to solidify these 
>calls in your brain. Look for this ancient medium on eBay.
>
>KEN
>
>
>
>Ken Rosenberg
>Conservation Science Program
>Cornell Lab of Ornithology
>607-254-2412
>607-342-4594 (cell)
>k...@cornell.edu
>
>On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Bill Evans wrote:
>
>>As a reflection on Steve Jobs passing, I posted the cover of the 
>>"Nocturnal Flight Calls of Migrating Thrushes" cassette tape to the 
>>Facebook nocturnal flight calls group last week. The pic, included 
>>here, was made in Minneapolis on a friend's Apple MacIntosh Plus 
>>computer in 1986. The "thrush tape" was completed in 1989 and 
>>offered to birders via the the classified adds of ABA's "Winging 
>>It" bulletin in early 1990. As I recall, the tape sold for $15 and 
>>over 400 were produced. Most of the tracks were duplicated on the 
>>Flight Calls CDRom.  ~Bill E
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: Kenneth Victor Rosenberg
>>To: Jeff Wells
>>Cc: NFC-L
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:21 AM
>>Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground
>>
>>I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff 
>>is referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the 
>>best primer for learning the basic thrushes, and  lot of us got 
>>started with that tape!
>>
>>KEN
>>
>>
>>
>>Ken Rosenberg
>>Conservation Science Program
>>Cornell Lab of Ornithology
>>607-254-2412
>>607-342-4594 (cell)
>>k...@cornell.edu
>>
>>On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I 
>>>am remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush 
>>>singing on the breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls 
>>>in the song? That was such a great tape!
>>
>>Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing 
>>this as well but I could never record it.
>>
>>Fun stuff!
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>Jeff Wells
>>International Boreal Conservation Campaign
>>Boreal Songbird Initiative
>>
>>
>>On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" 
>><k...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>Jeff et al.
>>
>>I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the 
>>ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often 
>>interspersed with "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also 
>>heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the 
>>nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is one of the ways 
>>that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by 
>>matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and 
>>visually confirmed.
>>
>>KEN
>>
>>
>>
>>Ken Rosenberg
>>Conservation Science Program
>>Cornell Lab of Ornithology
>>607-254-2412
>>607-342-4594 (cell)
>><>k...@cornell.edu
>>
>>On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote:
>>
>>>Yesterday morning  I was out in my suburban yard in south-central 
>>>Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and 
>>>through when I began hearing the "chuck" call of a Hermit Thrush 
>>>from the neighbor's backyard. Soon it began alternating between 
>>>the "chuck" call and the drawn-out "whee" nocturnal flight call. I 
>>>went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was 
>>>packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into 
>>>the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight 
>>>call with no more of the "chuck" call and then it moved to another 
>>>taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the 
>>>call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or 
>>>it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby 
>>>but I never saw or heard it again.
>>I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of 
>>which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I 
>>think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the 
>>nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I 
>>have a recording 

Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

[Michael Lanzone]

I think I may still have the original tape, although I don't think I have a
cassette player anymore ;)

Would be great to re-release the original tape in CD format Bill!



Michael Lanzone
mlanz...@gmail.com



On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg
wrote:

> Man, we're old!
>
> Although the CDRom is the way to go for learning and studying, it was
> Bill's careful narrative and logic that helped to solidify these calls in
> your brain. Look for this ancient medium on eBay.
>
>  KEN
>
>
> Ken Rosenberg
> Conservation Science Program
> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
> 607-254-2412
> 607-342-4594 (cell)
> k...@cornell.edu
>
>  On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Bill Evans wrote:
>
>   As a reflection on Steve Jobs passing, I posted the cover of the
> "Nocturnal Flight Calls of Migrating Thrushes" cassette tape to the Facebook
> nocturnal flight calls group last week. The pic, included here, was made in
> Minneapolis on a friend's Apple MacIntosh Plus computer in 1986. The "thrush
> tape" was completed in 1989 and offered to birders via the the classified
> adds of ABA's "Winging It" bulletin in early 1990. As I recall, the
> tape sold for $15 and over 400 were produced. Most of the tracks were
> duplicated on the Flight Calls CDRom.  ~Bill E
>
>
>  
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Kenneth Victor Rosenberg 
> *To:* Jeff Wells 
> *Cc:* NFC-L 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:21 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground
>
> I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is
> referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer
> for learning the basic thrushes, and  lot of us got started with that tape!
>
> KEN
>
>
> Ken Rosenberg
> Conservation Science Program
> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
> 607-254-2412
> 607-342-4594 (cell)
> k...@cornell.edu
>
>  On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote:
>
>  Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am
> remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the
> breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was
> such a great tape!
>
> Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as
> well but I could never record it.
>
> Fun stuff!
>
> Jeff
>
> Jeff Wells
> International Boreal Conservation Campaign
> Boreal Songbird Initiative
>
>
> On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" 
> wrote:
>
>  Jeff et al.
>
> I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground
> at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with
> "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and
> Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I
> believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all
> the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts
> during the day and visually confirmed.
>
> KEN
>
>
> Ken Rosenberg
> Conservation Science Program
> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
> 607-254-2412
> 607-342-4594 (cell)
>  k...@cornell.edu
>
>  On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote:
>
>   Yesterday morning  I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine
> watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began
> hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard.
> Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee”
> nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my
> recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the
> street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight
> call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller
> tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit
> before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped
> calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again.
> 
> 
> I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I
> posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some
> recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs
> during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s
> Thrush doing that.
> 
> Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving
> nocturnal flight call” at:  
> http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation
> 
> Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than
> what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what
> I am used to hearing at night.
> 
> Jeff Wells
> Gardiner, Maine
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Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

[Kenneth Victor Rosenberg]

Man, we're old!

Although the CDRom is the way to go for learning and studying, it was Bill's 
careful narrative and logic that helped to solidify these calls in your brain. 
Look for this ancient medium on eBay.

KEN


Ken Rosenberg
Conservation Science Program
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
607-254-2412
607-342-4594 (cell)
k...@cornell.edu

On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Bill Evans wrote:

As a reflection on Steve Jobs passing, I posted the cover of the "Nocturnal 
Flight Calls of Migrating Thrushes" cassette tape to the Facebook nocturnal 
flight calls group last week. The pic, included here, was made in Minneapolis 
on a friend's Apple MacIntosh Plus computer in 1986. The "thrush tape" was 
completed in 1989 and offered to birders via the the classified adds of ABA's 
"Winging It" bulletin in early 1990. As I recall, the tape sold for $15 and 
over 400 were produced. Most of the tracks were duplicated on the Flight Calls 
CDRom.  ~Bill E


 
- Original Message -
From: Kenneth Victor Rosenberg
To: Jeff Wells
Cc: NFC-L
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is 
referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer for 
learning the basic thrushes, and  lot of us got started with that tape!

KEN


Ken Rosenberg
Conservation Science Program
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
607-254-2412
607-342-4594 (cell)
k...@cornell.edu

On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote:

Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am 
remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the 
breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was such 
a great tape!

Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well 
but I could never record it.

Fun stuff!

Jeff

Jeff Wells
International Boreal Conservation Campaign
Boreal Songbird Initiative


On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" 
mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

Jeff et al.

I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at 
first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" 
notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush 
giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is 
one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by 
matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and visually 
confirmed.

KEN


Ken Rosenberg
Conservation Science Program
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
607-254-2412
607-342-4594 (cell)
k...@cornell.edu

On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote:

Yesterday morning  I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine 
watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began 
hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon 
it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” 
nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my 
recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street 
into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with 
no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards 
away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly 
stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and 
dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again.
I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted 
up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings 
of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the 
breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that.
Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving 
nocturnal flight call” at:  
http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation
Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what 
I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am 
used to hearing at night.
Jeff Wells
Gardiner, Maine
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Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

[Andrew Farnsworth]

Hi all,
Interesting thread! My experience with *Catharus*, in general for North,
Central and South America, is that species in this genus regularly use what
people call the flight calls on the ground, during the day, and certainly in
situations outside typical periods of nocturnal migration (of course, no one
has a clue about tropical *Catharus* and what even constitutes migration or
movement annual and diel timing for those species, so my characterization is
immediately biased).  I have a recording, filed somewhere, that Marshall
Iliff sent to me of an Orange-billed Nightingale-Thrush producing what is
presumably a "flight call" type vocalization.  I've heard similar calls from
Russet and Spotted Nightingale-Thrushes as well.

Re: North American species --- it's always seemed to me that Hermit Thrush
uses "flight calls" much more frequently on the ground in
non-breeding/wintering locations than other species, though I've heard
Swainson's Thrush give "flight calls" in Ecuador in the winter on several
occasions and Bicknell's give a "flight call" in Cuba (once).  I'd be
interested to hear from anyone with Veery/Gray-cheeked experience from South
America during winter to know if people have heard "flight calls" on the
ground there.

Regarding the thrush recordings from many years ago - it's worth reviewing
the clips (over and over is a good idea) contained on Bill and Michael's
CD-ROM, which you should all have anyway!  It's easier to navigate than this
thing you call "tape," Ken.  Is that like a "record?" :)

Best,
Andrew

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:20, Magnus Robb  wrote:
> I've noticed that in Common Blackbirds Turdus merula, the 'flight call' is
also given in a specific context when a presumed migrant or wintering bird
is on the ground. If my interpretation was correct, these were migrants
aware that they were on another, apparently resident Blackbird's territory
and making clear that they had no aggressive intentions. They didn't
necessarily fly away very soon afterwards, but they seemed to be tolerated
by the territory holders, up to a point.
>
> It always reminded me of people who stop their car where they know they
shouldn't and leave their hazard lights flashing to say 'I'll be off in a
minute or two, honest!'.
>
> Magnus Robb
>
>
> On 12 Oct 2011, at 16:06:01, Christopher Heckscher wrote:
>
>> This is a very interesting question indeed.  I've spent many years
studying Veery calls.  A call will be used in multiple contexts if the
accomplishment of that call is warranted in a give social context.  So, a
Veery call will be used in flight and on the ground if the accomplishment
(or function) is appropriate for the given social context.  The flight call
is simply a call that can function appropriately both in the air during
migration and in a forest.  Very little is known about calling behavior of
South American Catharus but they probably have comparable call repertoires.
>>
>>
>> Christopher M. Heckscher, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor, Environmental Science & Ecology
>> Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources
>> Delaware State University
>> 1200 N. DuPont Highway
>> Dover, DE  19901
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: bounce-38143835-10105...@list.cornell.edu [
bounce-38143835-10105...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jesse Ellis [
calocit...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:49 AM
>> To: NFC-L
>> Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground
>>
>> Seems like all the North American Catharus do this, no? I'm pretty sure
I've heard Veery doing flight calls on the ground as well. An interesting
question, then, would be whether Central and S. American Catharus have such
calls
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg <
k...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>> I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is
referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer
for learning the basic thrushes, and  lot of us got started with that tape!
>>
>> KEN
>>
>>
>> Ken Rosenberg
>> Conservation Science Program
>> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
>> 607-254-2412
>> 607-342-4594 (cell)
>> k...@cornell.edu
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote:
>>
>> Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am
remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the
breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was
such a great tape!
>>
>> Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as
well but I could never record it.
>>
>> Fun stuff!
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Jeff Wells
>> International Boreal Conservation Campaign
>> Boreal Songbird Initiative
>>
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Jeff et al.
>>
>> I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the
ground at first light -- especially in early winter, 

RE: [nfc-l] Spectrogram Catalog

[Greg Budney]

Christina,

The Macaulay Library has sonograms for every recording playable online, 
currently over 100,000 recordings.   When one performs an online search and a 
list of audio recordings are returned, to the right and slightly below each 
catalog number are two blue play buttons.  Use of the right button will result 
in a scrolling sonogram displaying as the audio plays.  A free downloadable 
plug-in is required for this functionality (for download instructions see 
RavenViewer under the Help section at the Macaulay Library website 
).

Greg Budney



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[ckis...@hughes.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:57 AM
To: NFC-L
Subject: [nfc-l] Spectrogram Catalog

I hesitate to ask this, since I am afraid the answer is obvious, but I will 
risk it anyway :)

Is there a (free) online resource that shows spectrograms for all bird species 
- not just their night flight calls, but songs, etc.? I've looked around a bit 
online but have not found anything comprehensive yet. If not online, what are 
your suggestions for something to purchase? It looks like Thayer's V4 has 
spectrograms.

Thanks in advance,
chris

Christina Kisiel
Endangered and Nongame Species Program
NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife
2201 County Route 631
Woodbine, NJ 08270

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anyone heard of weBIRD (Wisconsin Electronic Bird Identification Resource 
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Check out this article describing it: http://www.news.wisc.edu/19882

cheers

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Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

[Magnus Robb]

I've noticed that in Common Blackbirds Turdus merula, the 'flight call' is also 
given in a specific context when a presumed migrant or wintering bird is on the 
ground. If my interpretation was correct, these were migrants aware that they 
were on another, apparently resident Blackbird's territory and making clear 
that they had no aggressive intentions. They didn't necessarily fly away very 
soon afterwards, but they seemed to be tolerated by the territory holders, up 
to a point.

It always reminded me of people who stop their car where they know they 
shouldn't and leave their hazard lights flashing to say 'I'll be off in a 
minute or two, honest!'. 

Magnus Robb


On 12 Oct 2011, at 16:06:01, Christopher Heckscher wrote:

> This is a very interesting question indeed.  I've spent many years studying 
> Veery calls.  A call will be used in multiple contexts if the accomplishment 
> of that call is warranted in a give social context.  So, a Veery call will be 
> used in flight and on the ground if the accomplishment (or function) is 
> appropriate for the given social context.  The flight call is simply a call 
> that can function appropriately both in the air during migration and in a 
> forest.  Very little is known about calling behavior of South American 
> Catharus but they probably have comparable call repertoires.
> 
> 
> Christopher M. Heckscher, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor, Environmental Science & Ecology
> Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources
> Delaware State University
> 1200 N. DuPont Highway
> Dover, DE  19901
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: bounce-38143835-10105...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-38143835-10105...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jesse Ellis 
> [calocit...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:49 AM
> To: NFC-L
> Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground
> 
> Seems like all the North American Catharus do this, no? I'm pretty sure I've 
> heard Veery doing flight calls on the ground as well. An interesting 
> question, then, would be whether Central and S. American Catharus have such 
> calls
> 
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg 
> mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
> I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is 
> referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer 
> for learning the basic thrushes, and  lot of us got started with that tape!
> 
> KEN
> 
> 
> Ken Rosenberg
> Conservation Science Program
> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
> 607-254-2412
> 607-342-4594 (cell)
> k...@cornell.edu
> 
> On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote:
> 
> Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am 
> remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the 
> breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was 
> such a great tape!
> 
> Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well 
> but I could never record it.
> 
> Fun stuff!
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Jeff Wells
> International Boreal Conservation Campaign
> Boreal Songbird Initiative
> 
> 
> On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" 
> mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
> 
> Jeff et al.
> 
> I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at 
> first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" 
> notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush 
> giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this 
> is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- 
> by matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and 
> visually confirmed.
> 
> KEN
> 
> 
> Ken Rosenberg
> Conservation Science Program
> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
> 607-254-2412
> 607-342-4594 (cell)
> k...@cornell.edu
> 
> On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote:
> 
> Yesterday morning  I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine 
> watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began 
> hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. 
> Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” 
> nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my 
> recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street 
> into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call 
> with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 
> yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before 
> suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling 
> and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again.
> 
> I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I 
> posted up on my YouTube channel for 

RE: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

[Christopher Heckscher]

This is a very interesting question indeed.  I've spent many years studying 
Veery calls.  A call will be used in multiple contexts if the accomplishment of 
that call is warranted in a give social context.  So, a Veery call will be used 
in flight and on the ground if the accomplishment (or function) is appropriate 
for the given social context.  The flight call is simply a call that can 
function appropriately both in the air during migration and in a forest.  Very 
little is known about calling behavior of South American Catharus but they 
probably have comparable call repertoires.


Christopher M. Heckscher, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Environmental Science & Ecology
Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources
Delaware State University
1200 N. DuPont Highway
Dover, DE  19901




From: bounce-38143835-10105...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-38143835-10105...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jesse Ellis 
[calocit...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:49 AM
To: NFC-L
Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

Seems like all the North American Catharus do this, no? I'm pretty sure I've 
heard Veery doing flight calls on the ground as well. An interesting question, 
then, would be whether Central and S. American Catharus have such calls

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg 
mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is 
referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer for 
learning the basic thrushes, and  lot of us got started with that tape!

KEN


Ken Rosenberg
Conservation Science Program
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
607-254-2412
607-342-4594 (cell)
k...@cornell.edu

On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote:

Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am 
remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the 
breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was such 
a great tape!

Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well 
but I could never record it.

Fun stuff!

Jeff

Jeff Wells
International Boreal Conservation Campaign
Boreal Songbird Initiative


On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" 
mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

Jeff et al.

I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at 
first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" 
notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush 
giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is 
one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by 
matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and visually 
confirmed.

KEN


Ken Rosenberg
Conservation Science Program
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
607-254-2412
607-342-4594 (cell)
k...@cornell.edu

On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote:

Yesterday morning  I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine 
watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began 
hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon 
it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” 
nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my 
recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street 
into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with 
no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards 
away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly 
stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and 
dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again.

I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted 
up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings 
of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the 
breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that.

Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving 
nocturnal flight call” at:  
http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation

Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what 
I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am 
used to hearing at night.

Jeff Wells
Gardiner, Maine
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Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

[Kenneth Victor Rosenberg]

they do have short, harmonic, call notes given while perched (at least some 
species I am familiar with) -- whether these are ever given in flight I do not 
know. And then there is the possibility of elevational or short-distance 
migrations or movements in some species. Plus, a number of South American 
Turdus are migratory (Austral migrants) -- I wonder if there are flight notes 
known for these species?

fascinating questions!

KEN


Ken Rosenberg
Conservation Science Program
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
607-254-2412
607-342-4594 (cell)
k...@cornell.edu

On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Jesse Ellis wrote:

Seems like all the North American Catharus do this, no? I'm pretty sure I've 
heard Veery doing flight calls on the ground as well. An interesting question, 
then, would be whether Central and S. American Catharus have such calls

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg 
mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is 
referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer for 
learning the basic thrushes, and  lot of us got started with that tape!

KEN


Ken Rosenberg
Conservation Science Program
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
607-254-2412
607-342-4594 (cell)
k...@cornell.edu

On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote:

Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am 
remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the 
breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was such 
a great tape!

Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well 
but I could never record it.

Fun stuff!

Jeff

Jeff Wells
International Boreal Conservation Campaign
Boreal Songbird Initiative


On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" 
mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

Jeff et al.

I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at 
first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" 
notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush 
giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is 
one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by 
matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and visually 
confirmed.

KEN


Ken Rosenberg
Conservation Science Program
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
607-254-2412
607-342-4594 (cell)
k...@cornell.edu

On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote:

Yesterday morning  I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine 
watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began 
hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon 
it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” 
nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my 
recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street 
into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with 
no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards 
away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly 
stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and 
dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again.

I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted 
up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings 
of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the 
breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that.

Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving 
nocturnal flight call” at:  
http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation

Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what 
I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am 
used to hearing at night.

Jeff Wells
Gardiner, Maine
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Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

[Jesse Ellis]

Seems like all the North American *Catharus* do this, no? I'm pretty sure
I've heard Veery doing flight calls on the ground as well. An interesting
question, then, would be whether Central and S. American *Catharus* have
such calls

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg
wrote:

>  I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is
> referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer
> for learning the basic thrushes, and  lot of us got started with that tape!
>
>  KEN
>
>
>  Ken Rosenberg
> Conservation Science Program
> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
> 607-254-2412
> 607-342-4594 (cell)
> k...@cornell.edu
>
>  On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote:
>
>  Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am
> remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the
> breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was
> such a great tape!
>
>  Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as
> well but I could never record it.
>
>  Fun stuff!
>
>  Jeff
>
> Jeff Wells
> International Boreal Conservation Campaign
> Boreal Songbird Initiative
>
>
> On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" 
> wrote:
>
>   Jeff et al.
>
>  I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the
> ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with
> "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and
> Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I
> believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all
> the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts
> during the day and visually confirmed.
>
>  KEN
>
>
>  Ken Rosenberg
> Conservation Science Program
> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
> 607-254-2412
> 607-342-4594 (cell)
>  k...@cornell.edu
>
>  On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote:
>
>   Yesterday morning  I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine
> watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began
> hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard.
> Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee”
> nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my
> recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the
> street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight
> call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller
> tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit
> before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped
> calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again.
> 
>  ** **
>  I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I
> posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some
> recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs
> during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s
> Thrush doing that.
>  ** **
>  Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving
> nocturnal flight call” at:  
> http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation
>  ** **
>  Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than
> what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what
> I am used to hearing at night.
>  ** **
>  Jeff Wells
>  Gardiner, Maine
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Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

[Kenneth Victor Rosenberg]

I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is 
referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer for 
learning the basic thrushes, and  lot of us got started with that tape!

KEN


Ken Rosenberg
Conservation Science Program
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
607-254-2412
607-342-4594 (cell)
k...@cornell.edu

On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote:

Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am 
remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the 
breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was such 
a great tape!

Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well 
but I could never record it.

Fun stuff!

Jeff

Jeff Wells
International Boreal Conservation Campaign
Boreal Songbird Initiative


On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" 
mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

Jeff et al.

I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at 
first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" 
notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush 
giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is 
one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by 
matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and visually 
confirmed.

KEN


Ken Rosenberg
Conservation Science Program
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
607-254-2412
607-342-4594 (cell)
k...@cornell.edu

On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote:

Yesterday morning  I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine 
watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began 
hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon 
it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” 
nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my 
recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street 
into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with 
no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards 
away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly 
stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and 
dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again.

I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted 
up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings 
of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the 
breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that.

Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving 
nocturnal flight call” at:  
http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation

Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what 
I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am 
used to hearing at night.

Jeff Wells
Gardiner, Maine
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Re:[nfc-l] weBIRD

[David La Puma]

so either none of you (us) have heard of this, or my initial email was so
vague that you didn't want to click on the link. Basically it looks like
Mark Berres at U Wisconsin has developed an app that can template-match
recorded bird song against a server-side database to achieve real-time
identification of birds in the field. It looks like he is limiting it to
birds of Wisconsin so far, and from the Google Code page it looks like it's
up to 10 species (http://code.google.com/p/webird/) although that page
hasn't been updated since early August. Anyway, seems interesting!

Cheers

David


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On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:01 PM, David La Puma wrote:

> anyone heard of weBIRD (Wisconsin Electronic Bird Identification Resource
> Database)?
>
> Check out this article describing it: http://www.news.wisc.edu/19882
>
> cheers
>
> David
> 
>
> David A. La Puma
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Re: [nfc-l] Spectrogram Catalog

[Laurent Fournier]

Christina

Xeno Canto is one.




On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Christina Kisiel wrote:

> **
> I hesitate to ask this, since I am afraid the answer is obvious, but I will
> risk it anyway :)
>
> Is there a (free) online resource that shows spectrograms for all bird
> species - not just their night flight calls, but songs, etc.? I've looked
> around a bit online but have not found anything comprehensive yet. If not
> online, what are your suggestions for something to purchase? It looks like
> Thayer's V4 has spectrograms.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> chris
>
>  Christina Kisiel
> Endangered and Nongame Species Program
> NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife
> 2201 County Route 631
> Woodbine, NJ 08270
>
> p.609.628.1919
> f. 609.628.2734
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* David La Puma 
> *To:* nfc-l@cornell.edu
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:01 PM
> *Subject:* [nfc-l] weBIRD
>
> anyone heard of weBIRD (Wisconsin Electronic Bird Identification Resource
> Database)?
>
> Check out this article describing it: http://www.news.wisc.edu/19882
>
> cheers
>
> David
> 
>
> David A. La Puma
> Postdoctoral Associate
> New Jersey Audubon Society
> 600 Route 47 North
> Cape May Court House, NJ 08210
> Office: 609.861.1608 x33
> Fax:609.861.1651
>
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> http://www.woodcreeper.com/teaching
>
> Websites:
> http://www.woodcreeper.com
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>
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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/woodcreeper
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>
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[nfc-l] Spectrogram Catalog

[Christina Kisiel]

I hesitate to ask this, since I am afraid the answer is obvious, but I will 
risk it anyway :) 

Is there a (free) online resource that shows spectrograms for all bird species 
- not just their night flight calls, but songs, etc.? I've looked around a bit 
online but have not found anything comprehensive yet. If not online, what are 
your suggestions for something to purchase? It looks like Thayer's V4 has 
spectrograms. 

Thanks in advance,
chris

Christina Kisiel
Endangered and Nongame Species Program
NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife
2201 County Route 631
Woodbine, NJ 08270

p.609.628.1919
f. 609.628.2734
  - Original Message - 
  From: David La Puma 
  To: nfc-l@cornell.edu 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:01 PM
  Subject: [nfc-l] weBIRD


  anyone heard of weBIRD (Wisconsin Electronic Bird Identification Resource 
Database)? 

  Check out this article describing it: http://www.news.wisc.edu/19882

  cheers

  David
  

  David A. La Puma
  Postdoctoral Associate
  New Jersey Audubon Society
  600 Route 47 North
  Cape May Court House, NJ 08210
  Office: 609.861.1608 x33
  Fax:609.861.1651

  Teaching/Research Profile:
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Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

[Jeff Wells]

Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am 
remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the 
breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was such 
a great tape!

Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well 
but I could never record it. 

Fun stuff!

Jeff

Jeff Wells
International Boreal Conservation Campaign
Boreal Songbird Initiative


On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg"  
wrote:

> Jeff et al.
> 
> I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at 
> first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" 
> notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush 
> giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this 
> is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- 
> by matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and 
> visually confirmed.
> 
> KEN
> 
> 
> Ken Rosenberg
> Conservation Science Program
> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
> 607-254-2412
> 607-342-4594 (cell)
> k...@cornell.edu
> 
> On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote:
> 
>> Yesterday morning  I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine 
>> watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began 
>> hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. 
>> Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” 
>> nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my 
>> recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the 
>> street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight 
>> call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller 
>> tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit 
>> before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped 
>> calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again.
>>  
>> I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I 
>> posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some 
>> recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs 
>> during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s 
>> Thrush doing that.
>>  
>> Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving 
>> nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation
>>  
>> Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than 
>> what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what 
>> I am used to hearing at night.
>>  
>> Jeff Wells
>> Gardiner, Maine
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