Re: [nfc-l] passerines with sexually dimorphic flight calls?
All, I have the impression that Blue Grosbeak and Passerina buntings are sexually dimorphic in their flight calls, higher pitched in females, lower in males, but have never tested this in any rigorous way. Has anyone else looked into this? Michael O'Brien - Original Message - From: "Magnus Robb" To: "nfc-l@cornell.edu Call ListServe" Cc: "Andrew Farnsworth" , "SLIMBIRD Gerard" Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 12:04:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [nfc-l] passerines with sexually dimorphic flight calls? Equally interesting is the question of which passerines (and 'near-passerines') can be sexed according to their flight calls outside of the breeding season. I have not searched for examples in any thorough way, although I have been recording migrants and noting sex when possible for a long time, without noticing examples. During spring migration, some birds may sing while passing overhead, and depending on the species, this might be limited to males. Limiting the discussion to flight calls, however, I can only think of Raven as a passerine known to have at least some male- or female-only calls throughout the year. There are many more examples among non-passerines, eg Apus swifts, but most passerines seem to share non-breeding call repertoire across the sexes without noticeable differences. I would be delighted to be shot down and shown that there are many examples, but what are they? Alternatively, are there instances of some passerine species where males use certain shared calls much more often than females outside the breeding season? all the best, Magnus Robb On 18 Dec 2009, at 16:2324, SLIMBIRD Gerard wrote: A related discussion which I’m sure many on the list might be interested in learning more about in general is flight call variation of adult verses juvenile birds. Any known examples of North American species that give distinctive age related flight calls either diurnal or nocturnal? Sincerely, Gerard Phillips Ontario, Canada On 12/17/09 10:48 AM, "Andrew Farnsworth" < andrew.farnswo...@gmail.com > wrote: variation may exist among calls given in migration, non-breeding, and post-breeding seasons, and on and on -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES Archives: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [nfc-l] passerines with sexually dimorphic flight calls?
It's bordering on pure speculation and is only just relevant to this group, but I have a sneaky suspicion the alarm calls of Blackbird are sexually dimorphic. I'm collecting recordings at the moment to find out. Cheers Ross Ahmed From: bounce-4786788-10116...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-4786788-10116...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Magnus Robb Sent: 18 December 2009 17:04 To: nfc-l@cornell.edu Call ListServe Cc: Andrew Farnsworth; SLIMBIRD Gerard Subject: [nfc-l] passerines with sexually dimorphic flight calls? Equally interesting is the question of which passerines (and 'near-passerines') can be sexed according to their flight calls outside of the breeding season. I have not searched for examples in any thorough way, although I have been recording migrants and noting sex when possible for a long time, without noticing examples. During spring migration, some birds may sing while passing overhead, and depending on the species, this might be limited to males. Limiting the discussion to flight calls, however, I can only think of Raven as a passerine known to have at least some male- or female-only calls throughout the year. There are many more examples among non-passerines, eg Apus swifts, but most passerines seem to share non-breeding call repertoire across the sexes without noticeable differences. I would be delighted to be shot down and shown that there are many examples, but what are they? Alternatively, are there instances of some passerine species where males use certain shared calls much more often than females outside the breeding season? all the best, Magnus Robb On 18 Dec 2009, at 16:2324, SLIMBIRD Gerard wrote: A related discussion which I'm sure many on the list might be interested in learning more about in general is flight call variation of adult verses juvenile birds. Any known examples of North American species that give distinctive age related flight calls either diurnal or nocturnal? Sincerely, Gerard Phillips Ontario, Canada On 12/17/09 10:48 AM, "Andrew Farnsworth" wrote: variation may exist among calls given in migration, non-breeding, and post-breeding seasons, and on and on -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES Archives: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nfc-l] passerines with sexually dimorphic flight calls?
Equally interesting is the question of which passerines (and 'near- passerines') can be sexed according to their flight calls outside of the breeding season. I have not searched for examples in any thorough way, although I have been recording migrants and noting sex when possible for a long time, without noticing examples. During spring migration, some birds may sing while passing overhead, and depending on the species, this might be limited to males. Limiting the discussion to flight calls, however, I can only think of Raven as a passerine known to have at least some male- or female-only calls throughout the year. There are many more examples among non-passerines, eg Apus swifts, but most passerines seem to share non-breeding call repertoire across the sexes without noticeable differences. I would be delighted to be shot down and shown that there are many examples, but what are they? Alternatively, are there instances of some passerine species where males use certain shared calls much more often than females outside the breeding season? all the best, Magnus Robb On 18 Dec 2009, at 16:2324, SLIMBIRD Gerard wrote: > A related discussion which I’m sure many on the list might be > interested in learning more about in general is flight call > variation of adult verses juvenile birds. Any known examples of > North American species that give distinctive age related flight > calls either diurnal or nocturnal? > > Sincerely, > Gerard Phillips > Ontario, Canada > > > On 12/17/09 10:48 AM, "Andrew Farnsworth" > wrote: > >> variation may exist among calls given in migration, non-breeding, >> and post-breeding seasons, and on and on > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES Archives: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
