[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter motor fun.
Which reminds me of back in the '60's when I had an old BSA 500 single cyl. I had the alternator out on the concrete floor next to the bike one day while a friend was over sitting on the concrete, with his hand leaning back on the wet concrete. I casually gave the alternator a spin while the spark plug lead lay on the concrete which was a little wet from rain. You should have seen him jump. That developed into a sort of contest and you can see where that went. Graham On Sep 24, 2009, at 11:06 PM, Dennis Hammerl wrote: > Yeah, they can be messy in there. Yes, oil gets in from the other > end. Wash it out and it'll be back. Mixed with the carbon from the > brushes and it gets quite icky. The parts are correct. Brushes are > on 6 and 3. I just did mine at 21k this spring. Washed in a solvent > sink at work. Use whatever. The important thing is correct re- > assembly. All washers in the right place and brushes seated > properly. Equally important is what you do about the surface the > brushes ride on. You probably have a nice groove worn in. I don't > have a lathe to turn them in but if you can locate one (small) and > have it turned flat, great. I used a drill press and strips of 320, > 400 and 600 to do the same job. Takes much longer. I finished up > with a buffing using Semichrome. Any scratches will wear the new > brushes down quickly. A quick spray of contact cleaner and put it > back together. I recommend testing it with a battery before re- > installing. Lay it on the floor and hold in place with a foot while > testing. An electric motor has high torque and jump pretty good. > You should be good for another 20k. > > --- On Thu, 9/24/09, Dennis wrote: > > From: Dennis > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starter motor fun. > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 10:34 PM > > I pulled my starter motor off my CB700SC this afternoon and had a > look into the brushes compartment.Gakk - what a mess. Carbon > and oil and some years make a messy combination. > > It looks to me like one of the brushes reached its end and > basically disintegrated. The wire that would have been tied to it > was free-floating. > > Dennis H., if you are reading along here, I have a couple of > questions for you. > > - Is it normal to have some oil (maybe two or three thimble-fulls) > run out of the starter motor? > > - What's the best way to clean up all the oil and carbon dust > mess? Gasoline or? > > - I'm looking at the parts breakdown on the web site you turned me > onto here: http://www.cyclepartsnation.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/ > 7/Honda.aspx > > - I'm thinking that I need to order parts #3, #6 and (2) #7's. I > have the Mitsuba Starter Motor. > > - Do you know if the #6 part comes with the brushes in it and ready > to go? > > - The #4 part, the brush pusher springs don't cost much. Would you > replace all four while you were doing this just because you're in > there or would that be a waste? > > As always, I would appreciate knowing your thoughts on all of this. > > Oh, and I did what you suggested and put my volt meter on the > terminal on the starter motor and pressed the star button and I got > about 11 olts or so so I'm thinking that the relay is fine. > > Cheers, > > > Dennis G, > - a wayyy out in Seattle > - '85 & '86 CB700SCs > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] Nighthawk for sale
I just sold a 97 nighthawk 750 for $2000 on craigslist in north carolina and i still have my 650 for sale just dont have time to ride hate to see it just sit in my garage.Bike is in great shape and runs well.Thanks for looking at my bike ray.procrastin...@triad.rr.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- <><>
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: '84 cb 700 repair manual
It is blue and I had originally thought of changing to the red as I grew up with red Honda dirt bikes, but have since reconsidered. The blue has really grown on me. When I get to painting the bike, the blue is actually a decal, correct? Black paint with blue stickers on top? I have the entire manual in pdf form and would gladly send you any pages you need or direct you to get the whole book if that would work better. I found it online when I was looking for the manual for the 700 model that I have. I just wanted to make sure the 750 book was going to help me with my restoration before I printed it. I glanced through the book and noticed a page on the California model (where I live). Kind of odd, as I know the bike (the 750 at least) wasn't sold in the U.S. Now I need to start hunting for a starter for the bike. Thanks for your help! On Sep 24, 11:30 pm, Dennis Hammerl wrote: > If your book is for the six speed, driveshaft model as sold in Canada, you're > good to go. I may ask for a couple of pages myself. There may be more than > the obvious differences. I suspect they differ in some systems because of > emissions standards. Do a nice job, I love 700's. What color ? > # the latest edition is a nice bike, but far from the original. (IMHO) > > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, jdremodels wrote: > > From: jdremodels > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: '84 cb 700 repair manual > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" > Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 12:51 AM > > The bike is '84 the book is also '84. I know that they are basically > the same, I just want to know what the differences in the two bikes > are (besides the obvious differences in displacement). I shouldn't > have to tear into the engine, I'll eventually have to work on the > forks, carbs, brakes etc. Thanks for your quick response! > > On Sep 24, 7:45 pm, Dennis Hammerl wrote: > > > > > What year CB750 is the book for ? The CB700sc runs concurrent with CB750sc. > > Later model 750's are not similar enough for the restoration project. 84~86 > > only. > > > --- On Thu, 9/24/09, jdremodels wrote: > > > From: jdremodels > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] '84 cb 700 repair manual > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" > > Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 8:58 PM > > > I recently got a '84 cb700 nighthawk that I am beginning a restoration > > on. I have a repair manual but it is for the cb750. I understand the > > 700 is the U.S. model. I just want to know if the info in the book > > will work for my 700 or if there are major differences. I assume the > > bikes are basically the same. Any help is much appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter motor problems
Reminds me of when I was living in Seattle and had a '53 Cadillac. When I got it back from a transmission shop they had stolen my new battery and put their old weak one in it. I also parked my old Caddy on an incline and would push it to begin the coast and it would start at about 5 mph. I only had to drop it in second and wait... That was my first car and it was awesome: 27 mpg and air conditioning and automatic and all the other happy amenities they stuck on them. It had a generator, not an alternator. Stanley From: Dennis To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:20:03 PM Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter motor problems Thanks, Snookfever! I rode all day today and parked about six times. Each time, I scope a small inclide and park on the upper end. Only had to really push start it once. But, it'll be good to get the starter functional again. Dennis G. - Seattle -Original Message- From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Snookfever Sent: 23 September, 2009 16:52 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter motor problems If you have trouble finding brushes look for a shop in your area that rebuilds alternators and starters. I rebuilt my starter with new brushes from a local shop. On Sep 23, 1:35 am, "Dennis" wrote: > Dennis, > > Where’s the likely place to look for brushes for a CB700SC starter > motor? Honda Dealership Parts or? > > Dennis G. > > From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Hammerl > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:14 PM > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter motor problems > > Gee, if you jump the negative battery terminal to the starter motor > terminal.. duh. woweee ! > Check for 12 volts at the motor when holding down the button and if not replace the solenoid. Has 12 volts ? Pull the starter and the end cap. Clean and rebuild. New brushes needed. > > --- On Tue, 9/22/09, Dennis wrote: > > From: Dennis > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starter motor problems > To: "Nighthawk Group" > Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 10:05 PM > > This afternoon, I pushed the starter button on my CB700SC and it > didn’t hit the first time. Second time I pushed it, I got a good > ‘click’ but the starter motor didn’t turn the engine over. Lights > are strong. Headlight is strong so I think the battery’s charged. > > Later, I went back and had a closer look. If I kneel down on the > right side and put my hand on the start motor and press the starter > button. I can hear and feel what seems like things are binding up in > the starter motor. It feels like it wants to turn and can just a bit > but it doesn’t sound good. > > A look at the shop manual has me thinking I should > > (1) Jump the battery negative direct to the starter motor and thus > bypass the starter relay. If it turns normally, then I’ll suspect > the starter relay else > > (2) Pull the end cap from the starter motor and see if the brushes > look trashed. > > Your thoughts and comments are welcome. > > Dennis Gallagher > > Seattle – ’85 & ’86 CB700SCs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983-85 CB650SC Front Forks
Sorry - Iknew it was water column pressure, but wasn't thinking, when I wrote. Thank you for that reminder. I would have had a short in my brain and used PSI and felt really dumb when all that pressure would have made it impossible to light... Actually, the regularor is pre-set and most aren't adjustable... Stanley From: Gene Henry To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:23:00 PM Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983-85 CB650SC Front Forks LP is regulated at 11 inches water column pressure, or about 0.4 PSI, or about 4 oz pressure, at the final usage appliance. Nat Gas is regulated to 3.5 inches water column pressure, or about 0.125 PSI, or about 1.25 oz., at the final usage appliance. They are distributed through distribution systems at much higher pressures, and regulated down closer to the usage position. - Original Message - >From: stanley/ Randolph >To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com >Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 10:40 AM >Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983-85 CB650SC Front Forks > > >Keep in mind that hydrogen powered vehicles areburning the hydrogen >internally, and with a liquid hydrogen tank to increase the volume of stored >hydrogen, they can still only get about 125 miles out of a tankful. That was >a BMW with engine designed to handle only hydrogen as its fuel, in theory. >I do intend to burn it and I am only worried that I will not be able to >produce enough in the coldest months, because burning it to produce heat for a >home is not the same as burning it inside an IC engine. >As it burns, it is also increasing the - HUMIDity, making it feel warmer - >heat index, ya know... >As for storing, it's colder at night, so most of the heat will be needed at >night, and for most of my life I have only heated the room I need, not the >whole house. >During the day, when less heat is required, and I use the whole house, I will >heat the whole house... >It only takes a hundred cubic feet or two of natural gas a month to heat the >house, so I expect it won't take that much more hydrogen. I can produce about >a cubic foot an hour, and if I have eight hours (of daylight), that's eight >feet. If I am using 100 cubes a month, that's about 3 cubes a day; 150 is >five... >I am only using the acetylene tank to store the excess and only at about >110psi because I am using pvc pipe to make my generator. Even if I use >schedule 80 cpvc, I wouldn't go much over 140psi. You have to reduce the >pressure back down, to actually use it in a burner. I think natural gas is >used at about 8 psi, and propane is around 11. At this point I don't know >what hydrogen needs to be for a burner; I do know that you need to put some >steel wool downstream of the jet (in the mixing chamber) because the hydrogen >will pop otherwise. >I intend to use it in a ceramic type heating unit. >People still have this idea that hydrogen is dangerous and they generally >reference the Hindenburg. It wasn't the hydrogen that caused the blimp to >burn, it was the skin, which had magnesium in the coating. When they grounded >the ship, in an electrical storm, the lightning struck the skin and it burned >very very rapidly. Of course, there were some hydrogen bladders that were >either pierced or burned until unable to seal and the hydrogen did burn then, >but the disaster was due to the magnesium burning. >Because the flame of hydrogen burning is so very pale, the only way of >determining that it is hydrogen burning is when it is dark. > > > > > > From: Anthony >To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! >Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:32:47 AM >Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983-85 CB650SC Front Forks > > >How are you going to generate the hydrogen? Please give us some >details on your plan. I have some doubts that it will work. I dont >think that you have enough capacity in a acetylene bottle @ 100 psi to >heat your house. Hydrogen vehicles store hydrogen at 10,000 psi. >After you generate the H2 how are you going to generate your heat? >burn it or use it to generate electric via fuel cell? > >Some reading on Hydrogen: >http://www1.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/education/h2iq.html > > >On Sep 17, 3:57 pm, stanley/ Randolph wrote: >> Yeah, but ya gotta admit it was FFFUNNN!!! >> Seriously, though. I would be storing it in an acetylene bottle, and/or the >> oxygen bottle for a welding set. That would be thick enough that, with the >> constant production and use, its slight leakage out would be so slow that it >> wouldn't be noticeable. >> I am only planning on about 100- 110 psi. >> I want to make an ammonia-based air conditioner next year so that I can use >> a combination of sun and hydrogen to cool the house, instead of the >> "electrical pig" window units, or "electrical pig" central, with freon. >> >> Stanley >> >>
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter motor problems
Was it 6 volt or 12? - Original Message - From: stanley/ Randolph To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:17 PM Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter motor problems Reminds me of when I was living in Seattle and had a '53 Cadillac. When I got it back from a transmission shop they had stolen my new battery and put their old weak one in it. I also parked my old Caddy on an incline and would push it to begin the coast and it would start at about 5 mph. I only had to drop it in second and wait... That was my first car and it was awesome: 27 mpg and air conditioning and automatic and all the other happy amenities they stuck on them. It had a generator, not an alternator. Stanley -- From: Dennis To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:20:03 PM Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter motor problems Thanks, Snookfever! I rode all day today and parked about six times. Each time, I scope a small inclide and park on the upper end. Only had to really push start it once. But, it'll be good to get the starter functional again. Dennis G. - Seattle -Original Message- From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Snookfever Sent: 23 September, 2009 16:52 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter motor problems If you have trouble finding brushes look for a shop in your area that rebuilds alternators and starters. I rebuilt my starter with new brushes from a local shop. On Sep 23, 1:35 am, "Dennis" wrote: > Dennis, > > Where’s the likely place to look for brushes for a CB700SC starter > motor?Honda Dealership Parts or? > > Dennis G. > > From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > [mailto:nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Hammerl > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:14 PM > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter motor problems > > Gee, if you jump the negative battery terminal to the starter motor > terminal.. duh. woweee ! > Check for 12 volts at the motor when holding down the button and if not replace the solenoid. Has 12 volts ? Pull the starter and the end cap. Clean and rebuild. New brushes needed. > > --- On Tue, 9/22/09, Dennis wrote: > > From: Dennis > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starter motor problems > To: "Nighthawk Group" > Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 10:05 PM > > This afternoon, I pushed the starter button on my CB700SC and it > didn’t hit the first time. Second time I pushed it, I got a good > ‘click’ but the starter motor didn’t turn the engine over. Lights > are strong. Headlight is strong so I think the battery’s charged. > > Later, I went back and had a closer look. If I kneel down on the > right side and put my hand on the start motor and press the starter > button. I can hear and feel what seems like things are binding up in > the starter motor. It feels like it wants to turn and can just a bit > but it doesn’t sound good. > > A look at the shop manual has me thinking I should > > (1)Jump the battery negative direct to the starter motor and thus > bypass the starter relay. If it turns normally, then I’ll suspect > the starter relay else > > (2)Pull the end cap from the starter motor and see if the brushes > look trashed. > > Your thoughts and comments are welcome. > > Dennis Gallagher > > Seattle – ’85 & ’86 CB700SCs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS
I have a MAC exhaust. No glasspack at all. The inside piece (which can be removed with 1 screw) is basically two pipes welded together staggered. I have a jet kit and KN air filter. Mine revs smoothly. No flat spots or hesitations. The sound? It won't sound like a crotch rochet. For that you'll need an Eagle 1 exhaust. Most, people swear by V+H but mine runs great. Probably worth the extra money for the quality and craftsmanship. Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:48:13 -0400 Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hodge Mod vs. Vance & Hines/MACS From: althomas...@gmail.com To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com I did a search of the forum and before posting this so I think it is a new topic, sorry if not. Anyway, I am the kind of guy who inspired Tim Taylor, I modify everything I own. I have done a lot of street/strip racing with cars, and can't resist the temptation to squeeze a few extra ponies out of my NH. So I plan on putting in a proper zero loss exhaust, a free flowing intake filter, and properly jetting and tuning the carbs. To this end I think that if the stock exhaust is a resonator type as opposed to a glasspack, and if so it can be modified it to eliminate almost all backpressure. Since I haven't taken mine apart I don't know for sure. I have done a drawing of what I think the design of the stock exhaust looks like before and after the Hodge mod. I would appreciate it if anyone can verify if I'm correct on this. Thinking about doing this leaves me wondering whether it would just be better to buy the Vance&Hines or MACS setup. But I'm concerned that these systems are glasspacks thus poorly tuned, or are just too loud. Once again insight from someone who has these setups would be appreciated. According to my calculations the ideal setup for zero loss and proper scavenging should be 1 1/8 primaries, into either 1 1/2 secondaries if a 4 - 2, or 2" if 4 - 1, the secondaries should be roughtly17" long to optimize scavenging in the 4K-7K range. I made a drawing of a resonator vs glasspack in case some may not know the difference. The reason for my concern about glasspack mufflers are because they act as an extension of the secondary, and the longer the secondary is, the lower the ideal scavenging RPM range. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: '84 cb 700 repair manual
Is your starter missing ? Too easy to rebuild one, way too hard to find one. The CA model has some emission controls on it that are a PITA. Does that state check for emissions on bikes ? PA does not. Some members have contacts to obtain decals. A few have been painted in other colors and one is very nice (silver) looks German. I'd love to see a yellow one. My buddy Rob stopped over today with his yellow V-Max. My two 700's are not in need of paint but my VF11 is... I like complete restorations but with parts becoming scarce and very pricey, I can get along with a custom. Save the cosmetics till you are sure that the basic bike is sound and runs as it should. That can cost big $$ alone. --- On Fri, 9/25/09, jdremodels wrote: From: jdremodels Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: '84 cb 700 repair manual To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 3:38 PM It is blue and I had originally thought of changing to the red as I grew up with red Honda dirt bikes, but have since reconsidered. The blue has really grown on me. When I get to painting the bike, the blue is actually a decal, correct? Black paint with blue stickers on top? I have the entire manual in pdf form and would gladly send you any pages you need or direct you to get the whole book if that would work better. I found it online when I was looking for the manual for the 700 model that I have. I just wanted to make sure the 750 book was going to help me with my restoration before I printed it. I glanced through the book and noticed a page on the California model (where I live). Kind of odd, as I know the bike (the 750 at least) wasn't sold in the U.S. Now I need to start hunting for a starter for the bike. Thanks for your help! On Sep 24, 11:30 pm, Dennis Hammerl wrote: > If your book is for the six speed, driveshaft model as sold in Canada, you're > good to go. I may ask for a couple of pages myself. There may be more than > the obvious differences. I suspect they differ in some systems because of > emissions standards. Do a nice job, I love 700's. What color ? > # the latest edition is a nice bike, but far from the original. (IMHO) > > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, jdremodels wrote: > > From: jdremodels > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: '84 cb 700 repair manual > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" > Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 12:51 AM > > The bike is '84 the book is also '84. I know that they are basically > the same, I just want to know what the differences in the two bikes > are (besides the obvious differences in displacement). I shouldn't > have to tear into the engine, I'll eventually have to work on the > forks, carbs, brakes etc. Thanks for your quick response! > > On Sep 24, 7:45 pm, Dennis Hammerl wrote: > > > > > What year CB750 is the book for ? The CB700sc runs concurrent with CB750sc. > > Later model 750's are not similar enough for the restoration project. 84~86 > > only. > > > --- On Thu, 9/24/09, jdremodels wrote: > > > From: jdremodels > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] '84 cb 700 repair manual > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" > > Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 8:58 PM > > > I recently got a '84 cb700 nighthawk that I am beginning a restoration > > on. I have a repair manual but it is for the cb750. I understand the > > 700 is the U.S. model. I just want to know if the info in the book > > will work for my 700 or if there are major differences. I assume the > > bikes are basically the same. Any help is much appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: '84 cb 700 repair manual
Complete decals for the 700S are about $185. That includes the written decals (tire pressures, fork pressures 'helmet here', etc.), about $150 for just the color decals. On Sep 26, 2009, at 12:58 AM, Dennis Hammerl wrote: > Is your starter missing ? Too easy to rebuild one, way too hard to > find one. > The CA model has some emission controls on it that are a PITA. Does > that state check for emissions on bikes ? PA does not. > Some members have contacts to obtain decals. A few have been > painted in other colors and one is very nice (silver) looks German. > I'd love to see a yellow one. My buddy Rob stopped over today with > his yellow V-Max. My two 700's are not in need of paint but my VF11 > is... I like complete restorations but with parts becoming scarce > and very pricey, I can get along with a custom. Save the cosmetics > till you are sure that the basic bike is sound and runs as it > should. That can cost big $$ alone. > > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, jdremodels wrote: > > From: jdremodels > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: '84 cb 700 repair manual > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" > Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 3:38 PM > > > It is blue and I had originally thought of changing to the red as I > grew up with red Honda dirt bikes, but have since reconsidered. The > blue has really grown on me. When I get to painting the bike, the > blue is actually a decal, correct? Black paint with blue stickers on > top? > I have the entire manual in pdf form and would gladly send you any > pages you need or direct you to get the whole book if that would work > better. I found it online when I was looking for the manual for the > 700 model that I have. I just wanted to make sure the 750 book was > going to help me with my restoration before I printed it. I glanced > through the book and noticed a page on the California model (where I > live). Kind of odd, as I know the bike (the 750 at least) wasn't sold > in the U.S. > Now I need to start hunting for a starter for the bike. Thanks for > your help! > > On Sep 24, 11:30 pm, Dennis Hammerl wrote: > > If your book is for the six speed, driveshaft model as sold in > Canada, you're good to go. I may ask for a couple of pages myself. > There may be more than the obvious differences. I suspect they > differ in some systems because of emissions standards. Do a nice > job, I love 700's. What color ? > > # the latest edition is a nice bike, but far from the original. > (IMHO) > > > > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, jdremodels wrote: > > > > From: jdremodels > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: '84 cb 700 repair manual > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" > > > Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 12:51 AM > > > > The bike is '84 the book is also '84. I know that they are > basically > > the same, I just want to know what the differences in the two bikes > > are (besides the obvious differences in displacement). I shouldn't > > have to tear into the engine, I'll eventually have to work on the > > forks, carbs, brakes etc. Thanks for your quick response! > > > > On Sep 24, 7:45 pm, Dennis Hammerl wrote: > > > > > > > > > What year CB750 is the book for ? The CB700sc runs concurrent > with CB750sc. Later model 750's are not similar enough for the > restoration project. 84~86 only. > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/24/09, jdremodels wrote: > > > > > From: jdremodels > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] '84 cb 700 repair manual > > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" > > > > Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 8:58 PM > > > > > I recently got a '84 cb700 nighthawk that I am beginning a > restoration > > > on. I have a repair manual but it is for the cb750. I > understand the > > > 700 is the U.S. model. I just want to know if the info in the > book > > > will work for my 700 or if there are major differences. I > assume the > > > bikes are basically the same. Any help is much appreciated. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
