[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Stuck bolt

[EGrider]

My favorite trick is to put a notch in the side with a drill, dremel, etc. 
and then whack it with a cold chisel and hammer.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Tire pressure

[Dan Cook]

Thanks for the advice. Stupid spokes

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:04 AM, jrhoyt0895  wrote:

> I wouldn't bother filling the tires with nitrogen.  They're already filled
> with regular air, which contains about 78% nitrogen.
>>
>>
> Yes, I think you have a leak, and since you're riding a bike that has
> spoked wheels (a 2008 Nighthawk 250, right?) I recommend you install a
> fresh innertube and after finding and removing the offending object that
> caused the leak.
>
> On spoked wheels, the rims often have sharp bits that press against the
> innertube.  It's the reason you're supposed to install a new innertube
> every time you install a new tire.  Look for those sharp points and file
> them down while you have the tire off.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt

[James O'Gorman]

Soak it with PB blaster and use Impact if available. I agree with a new
socket as well - old worn sockets = rounded bolt heads. Using Mapp gas
would be the additional step. It burns hotter than Propane. You'll find the
little yellow bottles in the hardware store next to the little blue propane
bottles. Hit it with one or two torches of MAPP gas for a while after a
good soaking of PB blaster and you should be able to get it off. If the
bolt head breaks, you can usually weld a nut over the broken-off stud.
Avoid using any extensions if possible.

I wouldn't suggest the bottle jack method (although it does sound very
good). This would actually result in a lot of broken tools. This is because
it puts a lot of side-ways stress on all the components instead of axial
(twisting) force on the bolt threads themselves. If you have used a 4-way
tire iron, think about how using handles on both sides of the bolt versus
just on one side like with a ratchet. If you've ever tapped a thread, the
concept is the same. Tap handles are always "T" handles so that the tap
doesn't break off. 100% of the force goes to the threads instead of the
components like the handle, ratchet, socket, extension, ets.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Jared Clifton 
wrote:

> Ooh, Great idea Richard! I'll try that tonight.
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Richard Potter 
> wrote:
>
>> GET A GOOD / NEW 6 point socket put a breaker bar on it then put a bottle
>> of scissor   jack under it
>>
>> With just enough pressure so it will not come off while pulling on the bar
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googl
>> egroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jared Clifton
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:55 AM
>> *To:* Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
>> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt
>>
>>
>>
>> I can try and take one later. I'm at work now. It's not completely
>> stripped, but the corners are definitely rounded. It's one of the two 12 mm
>> bolts on the underside that connect the pipes to the frame. So, to get to
>> it you come up at it from under the bike. Not a ton of room to work. I
>> suspect that the threads are a bit corroded and probably fused to the
>> frame, particularly given that it's right next to the exhaust.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just hoping to hear some tricks I might not have tried yet, or what
>> others have had success with.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Jared
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 9:51:19 AM UTC-7, Richard Potter
>> wrote:
>>
>> Can you post a photo of the bolt?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* nighthaw...@googlegroups.com [mailto:nighthaw...@googlegroups.com]
>> *On Behalf Of *Jared Clifton
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:22 AM
>> *To:* Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
>> *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt
>>
>>
>>
>> I bought a replacement exhaust for my '83 NH 650, and while taking the
>> existing one off, I ran into a stuck bolt. One of the 12mm bolts on the
>> underside that holds the exhaust to the frame. I tried a breaker bar, my
>> impact driver, some liquid wrench, and some of those Craftsman Bolt
>> Extractors, and in the end, just ended up rounding off the bolt. Thought I
>> would post about it here and see if anyone has any recommendations before I
>> spend any more money. I hear good things about PB Blaster, but I worry I
>> won't be able to get it up into the threads, since the bolt is upside down.
>> I also read about using a propane torch on it (although that made me a
>> little nervous). Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Jared
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt

[Jared Clifton]

Ooh, Great idea Richard! I'll try that tonight.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Richard Potter  wrote:

> GET A GOOD / NEW 6 point socket put a breaker bar on it then put a bottle
> of scissor   jack under it
>
> With just enough pressure so it will not come off while pulling on the bar
>
>
>
> *From:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@
> googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jared Clifton
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:55 AM
> *To:* Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt
>
>
>
> I can try and take one later. I'm at work now. It's not completely
> stripped, but the corners are definitely rounded. It's one of the two 12 mm
> bolts on the underside that connect the pipes to the frame. So, to get to
> it you come up at it from under the bike. Not a ton of room to work. I
> suspect that the threads are a bit corroded and probably fused to the
> frame, particularly given that it's right next to the exhaust.
>
>
>
> Just hoping to hear some tricks I might not have tried yet, or what others
> have had success with.
>
>
>
> -Jared
>
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 9:51:19 AM UTC-7, Richard Potter wrote:
>
> Can you post a photo of the bolt?
>
>
>
> *From:* nighthaw...@googlegroups.com [mailto:nighthaw...@googlegroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Jared Clifton
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:22 AM
> *To:* Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
> *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt
>
>
>
> I bought a replacement exhaust for my '83 NH 650, and while taking the
> existing one off, I ran into a stuck bolt. One of the 12mm bolts on the
> underside that holds the exhaust to the frame. I tried a breaker bar, my
> impact driver, some liquid wrench, and some of those Craftsman Bolt
> Extractors, and in the end, just ended up rounding off the bolt. Thought I
> would post about it here and see if anyone has any recommendations before I
> spend any more money. I hear good things about PB Blaster, but I worry I
> won't be able to get it up into the threads, since the bolt is upside down.
> I also read about using a propane torch on it (although that made me a
> little nervous). Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> -Jared
>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt

[Richard Potter]

GET A GOOD / NEW 6 point socket put a breaker bar on it then put a bottle of 
scissor   jack under it
With just enough pressure so it will not come off while pulling on the bar

From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jared Clifton
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:55 AM
To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt

I can try and take one later. I'm at work now. It's not completely stripped, 
but the corners are definitely rounded. It's one of the two 12 mm bolts on the 
underside that connect the pipes to the frame. So, to get to it you come up at 
it from under the bike. Not a ton of room to work. I suspect that the threads 
are a bit corroded and probably fused to the frame, particularly given that 
it's right next to the exhaust.

Just hoping to hear some tricks I might not have tried yet, or what others have 
had success with.

-Jared

On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 9:51:19 AM UTC-7, Richard Potter wrote:
Can you post a photo of the bolt?

From: nighthaw...@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:nighthaw...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jared Clifton
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:22 AM
To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt

I bought a replacement exhaust for my '83 NH 650, and while taking the existing 
one off, I ran into a stuck bolt. One of the 12mm bolts on the underside that 
holds the exhaust to the frame. I tried a breaker bar, my impact driver, some 
liquid wrench, and some of those Craftsman Bolt Extractors, and in the end, 
just ended up rounding off the bolt. Thought I would post about it here and see 
if anyone has any recommendations before I spend any more money. I hear good 
things about PB Blaster, but I worry I won't be able to get it up into the 
threads, since the bolt is upside down. I also read about using a propane torch 
on it (although that made me a little nervous). Any thoughts?

-Jared
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: bug vs helmet

[mark . wfeld]

Protein shake?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt

[Jared Clifton]

I can try and take one later. I'm at work now. It's not completely 
stripped, but the corners are definitely rounded. It's one of the two 12 mm 
bolts on the underside that connect the pipes to the frame. So, to get to 
it you come up at it from under the bike. Not a ton of room to work. I 
suspect that the threads are a bit corroded and probably fused to the 
frame, particularly given that it's right next to the exhaust.

Just hoping to hear some tricks I might not have tried yet, or what others 
have had success with.

-Jared

On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 9:51:19 AM UTC-7, Richard Potter wrote:
>
> Can you post a photo of the bolt?
>
>  
>
> *From:* nighthaw...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> nighthaw...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Jared Clifton
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:22 AM
> *To:* Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
> *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt
>
>  
>
> I bought a replacement exhaust for my '83 NH 650, and while taking the 
> existing one off, I ran into a stuck bolt. One of the 12mm bolts on the 
> underside that holds the exhaust to the frame. I tried a breaker bar, my 
> impact driver, some liquid wrench, and some of those Craftsman Bolt 
> Extractors, and in the end, just ended up rounding off the bolt. Thought I 
> would post about it here and see if anyone has any recommendations before I 
> spend any more money. I hear good things about PB Blaster, but I worry I 
> won't be able to get it up into the threads, since the bolt is upside down. 
> I also read about using a propane torch on it (although that made me a 
> little nervous). Any thoughts?
>
>  
>
> -Jared
>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt

[Richard Potter]

Can you post a photo of the bolt?

From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jared Clifton
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:22 AM
To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt

I bought a replacement exhaust for my '83 NH 650, and while taking the existing 
one off, I ran into a stuck bolt. One of the 12mm bolts on the underside that 
holds the exhaust to the frame. I tried a breaker bar, my impact driver, some 
liquid wrench, and some of those Craftsman Bolt Extractors, and in the end, 
just ended up rounding off the bolt. Thought I would post about it here and see 
if anyone has any recommendations before I spend any more money. I hear good 
things about PB Blaster, but I worry I won't be able to get it up into the 
threads, since the bolt is upside down. I also read about using a propane torch 
on it (although that made me a little nervous). Any thoughts?

-Jared
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Stuck bolt

[Jared Clifton]

I bought a replacement exhaust for my '83 NH 650, and while taking the 
existing one off, I ran into a stuck bolt. One of the 12mm bolts on the 
underside that holds the exhaust to the frame. I tried a breaker bar, my 
impact driver, some liquid wrench, and some of those Craftsman Bolt 
Extractors, and in the end, just ended up rounding off the bolt. Thought I 
would post about it here and see if anyone has any recommendations before I 
spend any more money. I hear good things about PB Blaster, but I worry I 
won't be able to get it up into the threads, since the bolt is upside down. 
I also read about using a propane torch on it (although that made me a 
little nervous). Any thoughts?

-Jared

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Coast-to-Coast trip

[Tommy Hill]

I will never plan one of these trips!


I will just ask EGrider...

Excellent

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: bug vs helmet

[Richard Potter]

It is all protein you just have to get past the crunchy stuff

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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 6:07 AM
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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: bug vs helmet

I bet you're glad that one didn't fly into your mouth.
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: bug vs helmet

[jrhoyt0895]

I bet you're glad that one didn't fly into your mouth.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Tire pressure

[jrhoyt0895]

I wouldn't bother filling the tires with nitrogen.  They're already filled 
with regular air, which contains about 78% nitrogen.
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Yes, I think you have a leak, and since you're riding a bike that has 
spoked wheels (a 2008 Nighthawk 250, right?) I recommend you install a 
fresh innertube and after finding and removing the offending object that 
caused the leak.

On spoked wheels, the rims often have sharp bits that press against the 
innertube.  It's the reason you're supposed to install a new innertube 
every time you install a new tire.  Look for those sharp points and file 
them down while you have the tire off.  

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Coast-to-Coast trip

[EGrider]

First, I recommend that you get rid of that top box and strap a piece of 
Samsonite on your bike with bungees so that you can be cool. Then make sure 
your headlight goes out once in a while (I actually finally installed a new 
right handlebar assembly this week, so that's hopefully history).

You might as well take or play cat and mouse with I-70 to Denver because 
there's nothing in the way of natural beauty across the Midwest and Great 
Plains anyway. There are roads that parallel I-70 and are almost as fast 
and a tad bit more interesting. From Denver you can either take 285 down 
through Fairplay and head to Durango (you could see the Great Sand Dunes 
north of Alamosa, which are cool) or you can go over the mountains on I-70. 
I would go I-70 or parallel back roads. Stop in Boulder, Central City, 
Vail, the spa at Glenwood Springs, or do Rocky Mountain National Park if 
you have time. Take the Loveland Pass instead of the Eisenhower Tunnel 
across the divide for the view. Get off I-70 and cut down through Utah on 
Rt. 191, making sure to see Arches Natl. Park in Moab, Utah and maybe 
Canyonlands farther down.

Continue on Rt. 191 though Mexican Hat, Utah and then Monument Valley by 
all means, and then over to the Grand Canyon. After that you can see the 
London Bridge at Lake Havasu City (not so exciting, but weird) and Joshua 
Tree Natl. Park, or just take I-40 if you just want to get to Pasadena at 
that point.

I envy you my friend. Happy Trails. Keep the pictures coming. 

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