[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: A Modern Nighthawk in different clothing?

2012-07-07 Thread Hawaii Sean
Joey,

I actually test rode a PC800.  Automatic with plenty of power for
commuting or Sunday riding.  It was comfortable and would probably be
good for touring - it just looks like a big moped - like the Burgman's
and all those type of bikes.  I'd rather be in a box but who know
knows, when I get old and can't ride my Nighthawk anymore maybe I'll
look at something like that.

Sean

On Jul 6, 2:23 am, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sean,
           Ran into a guy at a bike show who had a PC 800 - he loved
 it. He said that yes, it was under powered, but if you get going along
 with it, it has the grunt to hold you at speed through corners and it
 got fabulous mileage.
            -Joey









 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Hawaii Sean sfox...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Reading Allens post makes me very interested in this bike.  I love my
  96 NH750 because, in my opinion, it is the perfect commuter bike.  The
  only draw back I wasn't able to fix is the lack of a 6th gear.  If you
  have a commute that requires even 10 miles of Highway a 6th gear or
  overdrive would be great.  You'd get into the 60mpg range which is
  where a bike of today needs to be.

  I've got about 48,000 mile to go on my 750 before I'm going to upgrade
  - when I hit 100,000 - not because because of the mileage but because
  I'll have been riding it for 8 to 9 years by then, my kids will be out
  of college and I'll be ready to a new bike and able to afford one.  By
  then this bike will have through a couple of manufacturing years and
  be ready.  I have seen one NT700 and really like it.  However, the
  connected integrated saddlebags remind me of the PC800 which even
  the hard core Honda fans tend to question.

  I can't wait to see how this bike shakes out over the next couple of
  years.  Looks like a great start for the semi adventure touring bike
  like the Vstrom 650 and a great commute machine.

  Sean

  On Jul 5, 9:38 am, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote:
  It's odd that the ABS is only offered with the DCT right now. When word
  first started going around it was going to be an option for both. An
  acquaintance in England has already seem and ridden one, says it would make
  a killer commuter bike. Narrow even with their bags on, good handling even
  built to a price point.

  I was told, when I signed up with a local dealer for a test ride when they
  get their demo in, that it's a 60hp bike, not 51. The side cases and the
  mounting kit runs ~$1400, I'd have to see if the cases are a decent size.
  Depending on how my semester goes, I might go strong-arming a salesman come
  December. :D

  Kurt
  On Jul 5, 2012 3:30 PM, Todd Hamilton vfr700b...@yahoo.com wrote:

   4 nighthawks and 4 VFR in my history both are great bikes. Have to say 
   the
   nod goes to the VFR for just all around better performance in my opinion,
   but my smile factor was the same on both bikes. Love to have another 700s
   in my garage to go with my 2000 VFR.

   Sent from my iPhone

   On Jul 5, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

   It all comes full circle back to the good O'l Nighthawk. BTW, Jon is
   riding his NH again after he got the newness of the FJR out of his
   system. Just yesterday he remarked that if he could only have 1 bike he
   would pick the NH over anything he has ridden so far. I tend to feel the
   same way. Though my VFR is a close 2nd, hopefully the GS I got off of
   Graham will end up being a good replacement for the NH.

   On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com 
   wrote:

   Joey,

   I think these are two different kinds of bikes. This NC700x goes more in
   the direction of a dual sport, something you should be able to take
   off-road (as long as is a nice, even gravel road). Nothing to do with a 
   NT
   or a Concourse in my opinion. I have been saying that I will buy a
   concourse since the new version came out in 2008, but I have to admit 
   that
   I sat on one the other day and they are really huge. I have recently
   returned to ride my NH750 more frequently and I forgot how nice and fun 
   is
   to ride a nimble and small bike for my daily commute.

   Javier.

   On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

   Javier,
            On that front - you could consider a larger displacement bike
   - I sat on a Concours last weekend and even though it was too high for
   me, it was only $3200 at a dealer! (To be fair - I don't remember the
   mileage, it wasn't relevant since I'd have to dump some money in to
   get it lowered...
            -Joey

   On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com
   wrote:
This is an adventure style bike, I guess in the same category of a 
bmw
gs650, klr650 or the vstrom 650. I do agree is a good price for all 
the
things you get, and it looks quite good, but I am sure the price
   reflex the
motivation to insert this new model in an 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: A Modern Nighthawk in different clothing?

2012-07-07 Thread Graham Rogers
I'd like a PC.  I ride an '85 GoldWing when I have a lot of stuff to carry and 
it's more than a few miles.The PC would be much better for me, the GW is so 
heavy, Graham

On Jul 7, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Hawaii Sean wrote:

 Joey,
 
 I actually test rode a PC800.  Automatic with plenty of power for
 commuting or Sunday riding.  It was comfortable and would probably be
 good for touring - it just looks like a big moped - like the Burgman's
 and all those type of bikes.  I'd rather be in a box but who know
 knows, when I get old and can't ride my Nighthawk anymore maybe I'll
 look at something like that.
 
 Sean
 
 On Jul 6, 2:23 am, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sean,
   Ran into a guy at a bike show who had a PC 800 - he loved
 it. He said that yes, it was under powered, but if you get going along
 with it, it has the grunt to hold you at speed through corners and it
 got fabulous mileage.
-Joey
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Hawaii Sean sfox...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Reading Allens post makes me very interested in this bike.  I love my
 96 NH750 because, in my opinion, it is the perfect commuter bike.  The
 only draw back I wasn't able to fix is the lack of a 6th gear.  If you
 have a commute that requires even 10 miles of Highway a 6th gear or
 overdrive would be great.  You'd get into the 60mpg range which is
 where a bike of today needs to be.
 
 I've got about 48,000 mile to go on my 750 before I'm going to upgrade
 - when I hit 100,000 - not because because of the mileage but because
 I'll have been riding it for 8 to 9 years by then, my kids will be out
 of college and I'll be ready to a new bike and able to afford one.  By
 then this bike will have through a couple of manufacturing years and
 be ready.  I have seen one NT700 and really like it.  However, the
 connected integrated saddlebags remind me of the PC800 which even
 the hard core Honda fans tend to question.
 
 I can't wait to see how this bike shakes out over the next couple of
 years.  Looks like a great start for the semi adventure touring bike
 like the Vstrom 650 and a great commute machine.
 
 Sean
 
 On Jul 5, 9:38 am, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's odd that the ABS is only offered with the DCT right now. When word
 first started going around it was going to be an option for both. An
 acquaintance in England has already seem and ridden one, says it would make
 a killer commuter bike. Narrow even with their bags on, good handling even
 built to a price point.
 
 I was told, when I signed up with a local dealer for a test ride when they
 get their demo in, that it's a 60hp bike, not 51. The side cases and the
 mounting kit runs ~$1400, I'd have to see if the cases are a decent size.
 Depending on how my semester goes, I might go strong-arming a salesman come
 December. :D
 
 Kurt
 On Jul 5, 2012 3:30 PM, Todd Hamilton vfr700b...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 4 nighthawks and 4 VFR in my history both are great bikes. Have to say the
 nod goes to the VFR for just all around better performance in my opinion,
 but my smile factor was the same on both bikes. Love to have another 700s
 in my garage to go with my 2000 VFR.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 5, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It all comes full circle back to the good O'l Nighthawk. BTW, Jon is
 riding his NH again after he got the newness of the FJR out of his
 system. Just yesterday he remarked that if he could only have 1 bike he
 would pick the NH over anything he has ridden so far. I tend to feel the
 same way. Though my VFR is a close 2nd, hopefully the GS I got off of
 Graham will end up being a good replacement for the NH.
 
 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Joey,
 
 I think these are two different kinds of bikes. This NC700x goes more in
 the direction of a dual sport, something you should be able to take
 off-road (as long as is a nice, even gravel road). Nothing to do with a 
 NT
 or a Concourse in my opinion. I have been saying that I will buy a
 concourse since the new version came out in 2008, but I have to admit 
 that
 I sat on one the other day and they are really huge. I have recently
 returned to ride my NH750 more frequently and I forgot how nice and fun 
 is
 to ride a nimble and small bike for my daily commute.
 
 Javier.
 
 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Javier,
  On that front - you could consider a larger displacement bike
 - I sat on a Concours last weekend and even though it was too high for
 me, it was only $3200 at a dealer! (To be fair - I don't remember the
 mileage, it wasn't relevant since I'd have to dump some money in to
 get it lowered...
  -Joey
 
 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 This is an adventure style bike, I guess in the same category of a bmw
 gs650, klr650 or the vstrom 650. I do agree is a good price for all the
 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: A Modern Nighthawk in different clothing?

2012-07-06 Thread Joey Kelley
Sean,
  Ran into a guy at a bike show who had a PC 800 - he loved
it. He said that yes, it was under powered, but if you get going along
with it, it has the grunt to hold you at speed through corners and it
got fabulous mileage.
   -Joey

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Hawaii Sean sfox...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Reading Allens post makes me very interested in this bike.  I love my
 96 NH750 because, in my opinion, it is the perfect commuter bike.  The
 only draw back I wasn't able to fix is the lack of a 6th gear.  If you
 have a commute that requires even 10 miles of Highway a 6th gear or
 overdrive would be great.  You'd get into the 60mpg range which is
 where a bike of today needs to be.

 I've got about 48,000 mile to go on my 750 before I'm going to upgrade
 - when I hit 100,000 - not because because of the mileage but because
 I'll have been riding it for 8 to 9 years by then, my kids will be out
 of college and I'll be ready to a new bike and able to afford one.  By
 then this bike will have through a couple of manufacturing years and
 be ready.  I have seen one NT700 and really like it.  However, the
 connected integrated saddlebags remind me of the PC800 which even
 the hard core Honda fans tend to question.

 I can't wait to see how this bike shakes out over the next couple of
 years.  Looks like a great start for the semi adventure touring bike
 like the Vstrom 650 and a great commute machine.

 Sean

 On Jul 5, 9:38 am, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's odd that the ABS is only offered with the DCT right now. When word
 first started going around it was going to be an option for both. An
 acquaintance in England has already seem and ridden one, says it would make
 a killer commuter bike. Narrow even with their bags on, good handling even
 built to a price point.

 I was told, when I signed up with a local dealer for a test ride when they
 get their demo in, that it's a 60hp bike, not 51. The side cases and the
 mounting kit runs ~$1400, I'd have to see if the cases are a decent size.
 Depending on how my semester goes, I might go strong-arming a salesman come
 December. :D

 Kurt
 On Jul 5, 2012 3:30 PM, Todd Hamilton vfr700b...@yahoo.com wrote:







  4 nighthawks and 4 VFR in my history both are great bikes. Have to say the
  nod goes to the VFR for just all around better performance in my opinion,
  but my smile factor was the same on both bikes. Love to have another 700s
  in my garage to go with my 2000 VFR.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 5, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

  It all comes full circle back to the good O'l Nighthawk. BTW, Jon is
  riding his NH again after he got the newness of the FJR out of his
  system. Just yesterday he remarked that if he could only have 1 bike he
  would pick the NH over anything he has ridden so far. I tend to feel the
  same way. Though my VFR is a close 2nd, hopefully the GS I got off of
  Graham will end up being a good replacement for the NH.

  On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:

  Joey,

  I think these are two different kinds of bikes. This NC700x goes more in
  the direction of a dual sport, something you should be able to take
  off-road (as long as is a nice, even gravel road). Nothing to do with a NT
  or a Concourse in my opinion. I have been saying that I will buy a
  concourse since the new version came out in 2008, but I have to admit that
  I sat on one the other day and they are really huge. I have recently
  returned to ride my NH750 more frequently and I forgot how nice and fun is
  to ride a nimble and small bike for my daily commute.

  Javier.

  On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

  Javier,
   On that front - you could consider a larger displacement bike
  - I sat on a Concours last weekend and even though it was too high for
  me, it was only $3200 at a dealer! (To be fair - I don't remember the
  mileage, it wasn't relevant since I'd have to dump some money in to
  get it lowered...
   -Joey

  On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   This is an adventure style bike, I guess in the same category of a bmw
   gs650, klr650 or the vstrom 650. I do agree is a good price for all the
   things you get, and it looks quite good, but I am sure the price
  reflex the
   motivation to insert this new model in an already competitive market.
  I will
   definitely consider get one of those in a couple of years  with low
  miles
   and for half of the price ;-)

   Javier.

   On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   All,
   Saw an ad for this in the new American Motorcyclist and didn't
   think it had come up on the list before:
  http://powersports.honda.com/2012/nc700x.aspx
   She is the all new 2012 NC700X - an inline twin 700cc powered
   bike that looks like a sport bike, has the storage of a sport 

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: A Modern Nighthawk in different clothing?

2012-07-05 Thread Hawaii Sean
Reading Allens post makes me very interested in this bike.  I love my
96 NH750 because, in my opinion, it is the perfect commuter bike.  The
only draw back I wasn't able to fix is the lack of a 6th gear.  If you
have a commute that requires even 10 miles of Highway a 6th gear or
overdrive would be great.  You'd get into the 60mpg range which is
where a bike of today needs to be.

I've got about 48,000 mile to go on my 750 before I'm going to upgrade
- when I hit 100,000 - not because because of the mileage but because
I'll have been riding it for 8 to 9 years by then, my kids will be out
of college and I'll be ready to a new bike and able to afford one.  By
then this bike will have through a couple of manufacturing years and
be ready.  I have seen one NT700 and really like it.  However, the
connected integrated saddlebags remind me of the PC800 which even
the hard core Honda fans tend to question.

I can't wait to see how this bike shakes out over the next couple of
years.  Looks like a great start for the semi adventure touring bike
like the Vstrom 650 and a great commute machine.

Sean

On Jul 5, 9:38 am, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's odd that the ABS is only offered with the DCT right now. When word
 first started going around it was going to be an option for both. An
 acquaintance in England has already seem and ridden one, says it would make
 a killer commuter bike. Narrow even with their bags on, good handling even
 built to a price point.

 I was told, when I signed up with a local dealer for a test ride when they
 get their demo in, that it's a 60hp bike, not 51. The side cases and the
 mounting kit runs ~$1400, I'd have to see if the cases are a decent size.
 Depending on how my semester goes, I might go strong-arming a salesman come
 December. :D

 Kurt
 On Jul 5, 2012 3:30 PM, Todd Hamilton vfr700b...@yahoo.com wrote:







  4 nighthawks and 4 VFR in my history both are great bikes. Have to say the
  nod goes to the VFR for just all around better performance in my opinion,
  but my smile factor was the same on both bikes. Love to have another 700s
  in my garage to go with my 2000 VFR.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 5, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

  It all comes full circle back to the good O'l Nighthawk. BTW, Jon is
  riding his NH again after he got the newness of the FJR out of his
  system. Just yesterday he remarked that if he could only have 1 bike he
  would pick the NH over anything he has ridden so far. I tend to feel the
  same way. Though my VFR is a close 2nd, hopefully the GS I got off of
  Graham will end up being a good replacement for the NH.

  On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:

  Joey,

  I think these are two different kinds of bikes. This NC700x goes more in
  the direction of a dual sport, something you should be able to take
  off-road (as long as is a nice, even gravel road). Nothing to do with a NT
  or a Concourse in my opinion. I have been saying that I will buy a
  concourse since the new version came out in 2008, but I have to admit that
  I sat on one the other day and they are really huge. I have recently
  returned to ride my NH750 more frequently and I forgot how nice and fun is
  to ride a nimble and small bike for my daily commute.

  Javier.

  On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

  Javier,
           On that front - you could consider a larger displacement bike
  - I sat on a Concours last weekend and even though it was too high for
  me, it was only $3200 at a dealer! (To be fair - I don't remember the
  mileage, it wasn't relevant since I'd have to dump some money in to
  get it lowered...
           -Joey

  On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   This is an adventure style bike, I guess in the same category of a bmw
   gs650, klr650 or the vstrom 650. I do agree is a good price for all the
   things you get, and it looks quite good, but I am sure the price
  reflex the
   motivation to insert this new model in an already competitive market.
  I will
   definitely consider get one of those in a couple of years  with low
  miles
   and for half of the price ;-)

   Javier.

   On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   All,
           Saw an ad for this in the new American Motorcyclist and didn't
   think it had come up on the list before:
  http://powersports.honda.com/2012/nc700x.aspx
           She is the all new 2012 NC700X - an inline twin 700cc powered
   bike that looks like a sport bike, has the storage of a sport tourer
   and is rated at 64 MPG.
           Base price: Just a whisker under $7000.
           Compared to the NT700V - its a relative bargain -
  http://powersports.honda.com/2011/nt700v.aspx- over $4000 more than
   the new NC700X.
           Of course - it isn't a completely fair comparison, the NT has
   ABS, the NC base model doesn't. It