Re: [nlug] multiple Comcast connections

2010-04-20 Thread Chris McQuistion
Curt already chimed in about our setup, but I'll chime in with my two
cents...

You may want to call Comcast and find out if they have the new DOCSIS 3
available in your area.  It recently became available in our neck of the
woods and we actually switched from two regular cable modems (16 mpbs down,
2 mbps up @ $90/month) to one connection that is 50 mbps down and 10 mbps up
@ $190/month.

As far as ease of use, this is superior to having the two connections.  In
our experience, we didn't ~often~ have both connections go down at the same
time.  Usually just one connection or the other would have problems.

Chris


On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Daniel Owen danielowe...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think I remember Chris saying that he had multiple Comcast connections
 maybe this is true for other people on the list as well. If you have
 multiple Comcast Internet  connections, in your experience not withstanding
 a backhoe incident when one connection goes down does the other Comcast
 connection typically stay up or do they typically go down in unison? I'm
 looking for redundancy options and I'm trying to figure out if multiple
 Comcast connections buys me anything beyond bandwidth. I already have
 Internet through a couple of phone carriers and I am hoping for something
 that can bring in a fast connection for less outlay than metro-e or bonded
 Ts.

 Thanks

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Re: [nlug] multiple Comcast connections

2010-04-20 Thread Howard White

How tacky is it to rejigger and trim top posted replies?  :)


On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Daniel Owen danielowe...@gmail.com 
mailto:danielowe...@gmail.com wrote:


I think I remember Chris saying that he had multiple Comcast
connections maybe this is true for other people on the list as well.
If you have multiple Comcast Internet  connections, in your
experience not withstanding a backhoe incident when one connection
goes down does the other Comcast connection typically stay up or do
they typically go down in unison? I'm looking for redundancy options
and I'm trying to figure out if multiple Comcast connections buys me
anything beyond bandwidth. I already have Internet through a couple
of phone carriers and I am hoping for something that can bring in a
fast connection for less outlay than metro-e or bonded Ts.

Thanks


Chris McQuistion wrote:
 Curt already chimed in about our setup, but I'll chime in with my two
 cents...

 You may want to call Comcast and find out if they have the new DOCSIS 3
 available in your area.  It recently became available in our neck of the
 woods and we actually switched from two regular cable modems (16 mpbs
 down, 2 mbps up @ $90/month) to one connection that is 50 mbps down and
 10 mbps up @ $190/month.

 As far as ease of use, this is superior to having the two connections.
  In our experience, we didn't ~often~ have both connections go down at
 the same time.  Usually just one connection or the other would have
 problems.

 Chris


Daniel,

What I glean from Curt's response is that the principal point of failure 
with Comcast (and ATT DSL for that matter) is the Network Terminator 
(aka modem).  This failure is caused by nausea coming from either your 
internal network or the upstream; doesn't really matter.  Our good 
friend, Tilghman Lesher, also suffers Comcast for broadband and he 
configured an X10 Firefly unit so that he could call on his ATT 
landline and power cycle the modem remotely.


Chris and Curt at Watkins have a very diverse traffic pattern which 
lends itself to multiple network trunks.  Part of your analysis has to 
consider your route table and load balancing requirements of your 
traffic.  I'm not doubting your abilities beyond saying that _I_ don't 
want to manage that route map.  ;)


Price points are good observations:  Two 16 down / 2 up for ~$180 per 
month (plus tax, title and license); one 50 down / 10 up for ~$190 per 
month; one 4.5 mps up and down fiber for ~$1000.00 per month (haven't 
checked this recently).  Comparing Comcast to metro fiber is not that 
straight forward.


YMMV, YKWIMV

Howard White

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