Re: [nodejs] Should i use node?

2012-06-22 Thread Mark Hahn
Node sounds like a fit to me.

Why do you have workers?  Doesn't rails automatically use threads/processes
to allow multiple things to happen at once?  (I know nothing about how a
rails server works).

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Radhames Brito wrote:

> I have a medium size application in Rails that is consuming lot of
> resources because it has to communicate with a SOAP web service, every
> time the application accesses the service is the processing of the
> request stops so i have to have start many instances to make the app
> respond quickly to the other clients,  i also have to start faye and
> several background workers.
>
> So is it a better idea to port this application to node.js (expressjs)
> and make async calls to the SOAP web service and update the clients
> via socket.io? What kind of issues should i be aware of?
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Re: [nodejs] Should i use node?

2012-06-22 Thread Ben Noordhuis
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Radhames Brito  wrote:
> I have a medium size application in Rails that is consuming lot of
> resources because it has to communicate with a SOAP web service, every
> time the application accesses the service is the processing of the
> request stops so i have to have start many instances to make the app
> respond quickly to the other clients,  i also have to start faye and
> several background workers.
>
> So is it a better idea to port this application to node.js (expressjs)
> and make async calls to the SOAP web service and update the clients
> via socket.io?

That's exactly the use case node.js was designed for: shoveling loads
of data from one network endpoint to another.

> What kind of issues should i be aware of?

That event-driven I/O is something of a paradigm shift. It takes some
getting used to but if you've used e.g. EventMachine before, you'll be
fine.

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Re: [nodejs] Should i use node?

2012-06-24 Thread José F . Romaniello
 I wrote something about this few weeks ago

http://joseoncode.com/2012/05/31/node-dot-js-and-the-beauty-of-working-on-a-platform-that-embrace-opensource/



2012/6/23, Radhames Brito :
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Mark Hahn  wrote:
>
>> >   I dont see node.js growing much
>>
>> You must be blind.  Node is exploding with no end in site.
>>
>>
> Yes I agree Node is exploding, but there needs to be standards, I know
> everyone is running to it but efforts should be unified.
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Re: [nodejs] Should i use node?

2012-06-24 Thread José F . Romaniello
> This can be helped by better organization around community support of
recommended modules. Hopefully this story gets better in the near future.

Recommended by who? Based on what?

I had the chance to assist to a talk that Isaac gave on JsConfAr, about
this.. I cant find his talk online right now but this post looks similar:
http://blog.izs.me/post/23048895912/tacoconf-anarchism

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Re: [nodejs] Should i use node?

2012-06-24 Thread Mark Hahn
>  Recommended by who? Based on what?

How about one vote per github account?

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Re: [nodejs] Should i use node?

2012-06-24 Thread José F . Romaniello
I wont use something because the upvoters. I have 2 months working in node
for serious when i need something i search with npm (slow), or google ->
github. Then i look at the github page to see if it does what i want, and
if is not clear i look at the examples folder then at the test folder. If
it does what i want i will use. If it doesnt and i think it should I can
fork it and enhance, or look for some other module.

El domingo, 24 de junio de 2012, Mark Hahn escribió:

> >  Recommended by who? Based on what?
>
> How about one vote per github account?
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Re: [nodejs] Should i use node?

2012-06-24 Thread Radhames Brito
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 5:04 PM, José F. Romaniello
wrote:

> I wont use something because the upvoters. I have 2 months working in node
> for serious when i need something i search with npm (slow), or google ->
> github. Then i look at the github page to see if it does what i want, and
> if is not clear i look at the examples folder then at the test folder. If
> it does what i want i will use. If it doesnt and i think it should I can
> fork it and enhance, or look for some other module.
>

Well your results could be documented (all of our results) in a central
place, along the voting Mark mentioned.  Elements like recent commits,
forks, contributors and download count would be very helpful too, also
documentation and testing rating and if the project has a web page or not.



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Re: [nodejs] Should i use node?

2012-06-24 Thread Mark Hahn
>  Well your results could be documented (all of our results) in a central
place

It would be just one more piece of data to use when evaluating a module.
 You could make of it whatever you want.

Of course it would cause competition and maybe hurt feelings, but that is
life.

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Re: [nodejs] Should i use node?

2012-06-24 Thread Angel Java Lopez
@izs talk
http://blip.tv/jsconfar/isaac_z_schlueter-6193181
More JsConfAr videos
http://blip.tv/jsconfar


On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 5:13 PM, José F. Romaniello
wrote:

> > This can be helped by better organization around community support of
> recommended modules. Hopefully this story gets better in the near future.
>
> Recommended by who? Based on what?
>
> I had the chance to assist to a talk that Isaac gave on JsConfAr, about
> this.. I cant find his talk online right now but this post looks similar:
> http://blog.izs.me/post/23048895912/tacoconf-anarchism
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Re: [nodejs] Should i use node?

2012-06-24 Thread marco . rogers
Recommended by a majority of your community peers that you respect. And yes 
that is a vague and fuzzy definition. It should be because there's no 
prescription here. We're just talking about a rough priority list that tries to 
reflect the prevailing trends.

Or at least that's what I've been pushing. It may end up looking differently.

Sent from my iPhone

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> >  Recommended by who? Based on what?  
> 
> How about one vote per github account?
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